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swag

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Mon Jan 27, 2025, 04:51 PM Monday

Great thread from Karen Hao on DeepSeek ramifications for AI, the planet, etc.

https://skywriter.blue/pages/did:plc:xlcmx6ebvwafkuufwnisvrrt/post/3lgq4pcanhk2v

Excerpt:

But DeepSeek shows - in the same moment as the Stargate announcement - that the trade off that OpenAI & co frame as wholly necessary is actually not. 15/

Wait a minute. You mean to say that we don’t need to blanket the earth with data centers and coal & gas plants to maybe arrive at a future where we can wave a magical AGI wand to make all of the consequences of that go away?

Yes. This is a false trade off. Let that sink in. 16/

As I said earlier, scaling was always more about business than science. Scientifically, there’s no law of physics that says AI advancements must come from scaling rather than approaches using the same or fewer resources. Scaling is just an incredibly easy-to-follow formula. 17/

DeepSeek now also undermines the business case for scaling. OpenAI has been burning through staggering sums of cash to keep up its scaling paradigm and has yet to figure out how to balance its checkbooks - and it turns out it didn’t need to spend so much cash. 18/

more:

https://skywriter.blue/pages/did:plc:xlcmx6ebvwafkuufwnisvrrt/post/3lgq4pcanhk2v
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Great thread from Karen Hao on DeepSeek ramifications for AI, the planet, etc. (Original Post) swag Monday OP
Hopefully we should see a reduction in energy consumption soon... Think. Again. Monday #1
Yes, agreed. Hal Sparks was talking about this on his show today. He studies AI pretty heavily LymphocyteLover Monday #2
I never thought I'd be cheering China on for anything. Intractable Monday #3

Think. Again.

(20,767 posts)
1. Hopefully we should see a reduction in energy consumption soon...
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 05:15 PM
Monday

...if the nazis in office don't block DeepSeek from American datacenter use.

LymphocyteLover

(7,153 posts)
2. Yes, agreed. Hal Sparks was talking about this on his show today. He studies AI pretty heavily
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 08:05 PM
Monday

Basically, the idea that we need these giant data centers is nonsense.

Intractable

(780 posts)
3. I never thought I'd be cheering China on for anything.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 09:07 PM
Monday

But, it's a good thing that they beat our AI companies in this round.

It will now force OpenAI, Google, and all the others to do better -- to be better.

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