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appalachiablue

(43,474 posts)
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 11:59 AM Nov 2024

"I'M NOT FEELING CHARITABLE"

'I'm Not Feeling Charitable,' Daily Kos, Nov. 10, 2024. Photo: Angry

I’m angry. Really angry. As a lot of you are. There’s all kinds of analysis and speculation about why people voted for Trump, or against Harris, or how the Democrats may or may not have abandoned the working class, and the social impact of egg prices, but I just can’t get over the core fact of this election which is that half of the voters decided that fascism is an acceptable option. Fascism.

Whatever shortcomings the Democrats and the Left may have, the fact that fascism is an attractive option to half of America should be the focus of attention. The fact that it isn’t is appalling. There are a lot of people who have been arguing for the need to be understanding of Trump voters, to understand their economic distress, to build a strategy to convince them that we have a better plan and welcome them back when Trump’s schemes go awry. If we were dealing with any other Republican, or even Trump the first, I would agree, but that isn’t the reality we’re faced with. That doesn’t reflect what has happened in the past few months.

We had a normal person running a normal campaign with normal policies contrasted with a person dressing up as a Garbage Lego man, rambling incoherently about electrified sharks and cannibals, holding racist and misogynistic Nazi-rallies, simulating oral sex with a microphone and discussing prodigious golfer penises. And he’s a convicted felon and a rapist. But the people threw their hat in with the Orange God Clown anyway because eggs. Good for them.

The real problem for me, personally, is that people voted for an aspiring dictator who wishes me harm, wishes my family harm, wishes my friends harm, and will have the power and intention to upend millions of lives. They voted to take the first step toward death camps, based on the hope that it will stop at the first step. They voted for the promise of a national abortion ban, and the hope that it won’t materialize. They voted for the hope that we can have a fascist government without becoming monsters. That’s some aspiration. No matter how they try to rationalize it, no matter how they twist up their own moral logic, they voted to harm their fellow citizens based on the promise of economic prosperity. That’s something I can’t and won’t accept.

People have the right to vote as they see fit, but I will not accept a vote for fascism as moral. This is beyond a difference of opinion. It is a moral betrayal...
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/11/10/2285136/-I-m-not-feeling-charitable

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"I'M NOT FEELING CHARITABLE" (Original Post) appalachiablue Nov 2024 OP
Most are in for a surprise BigMin28 Nov 2024 #1
Truth, ignorance and the dangerous state of America after decades of anti govt., corp greed. appalachiablue Nov 2024 #2
The saddest part to me is that so many millions are willfully ignorant or just too fucking stupid to know what they've d Magoo48 Nov 2024 #12
some are stupid Henry203 Nov 2024 #17
This! Bluethroughu Nov 2024 #16
even worse Skittles Nov 2024 #22
What is 'moral' about voting for a serial sexual predator, rapist and convited felon? Biophilic Nov 2024 #3
any "christian" who voted for Trump, THEIR FAITH IS BULLSHIT Skittles Nov 2024 #23
Racism, Racism, Racism, Racism usonian Nov 2024 #4
Bingo! OldBaldy1701E Nov 2024 #10
We were in extreme denial to think that Frank D. Lincoln Nov 2024 #19
I am so saddened by this. Racism and misogyny are taught. usonian Nov 2024 #21
A lot of these "good, devout Christians" voted for tfg specifically because they know he will hurt people alwaysinasnit Nov 2024 #5
which is proof their "faith" is absolute fucking bullshit Skittles Nov 2024 #24
And yet they have convinced themselves of their righteousness and moral superiority. alwaysinasnit Nov 2024 #27
they certainly do think they are better Skittles Nov 2024 #28
+1000 alwaysinasnit Nov 2024 #29
Truth be known...we are the enablers in a codependent relationship. We need to walk away and let them falter PortTack Nov 2024 #6
I really did Macrophylla Nov 2024 #26
Selfishness and we are supposed to be alright with that. Blue Full Moon Nov 2024 #7
my doc told me that today Skittles Nov 2024 #25
As the Bulwarks Mona Charen wrote bronxiteforever Nov 2024 #8
Agreed. Making it a horse race covered up the facts of the corruption mdbl Nov 2024 #9
Please, relax and calm down.....it it help knowing this... Dan Nov 2024 #11
"Oh, he's just saying that" and "Trump is just being Trump" Mountain Mule Nov 2024 #13
Yeah, even if Putin, Musk and starlink Farmer-Rick Nov 2024 #14
"They" don't know what "Fascism" is. Justice matters. Nov 2024 #15
Agree, me too. Why are we mocked as the "smartypants party" instead of the "we care" party which now txwhitedove Nov 2024 #18
We now have our own Slobodan Milosevic; it won't be long before the rape camps and "pig slaughter pens" start to appear. NBachers Nov 2024 #20
co-signed... Blue_Tires Nov 2024 #30

BigMin28

(1,619 posts)
1. Most are in for a surprise
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 12:03 PM
Nov 2024

They probably can't tell you what facism means. But ask the about any sports, reality show or that grotesque Kardashian family, and they will tell you everything. Yes, they are just that stupid.

appalachiablue

(43,474 posts)
2. Truth, ignorance and the dangerous state of America after decades of anti govt., corp greed.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 12:13 PM
Nov 2024

Magoo48

(6,039 posts)
12. The saddest part to me is that so many millions are willfully ignorant or just too fucking stupid to know what they've d
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 02:00 PM
Nov 2024

Skittles

(162,408 posts)
22. even worse
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 08:25 PM
Nov 2024

I think too many of them APPROVE of fascism, because they can NEVER envision themselves as its victims

Biophilic

(5,353 posts)
3. What is 'moral' about voting for a serial sexual predator, rapist and convited felon?
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 12:35 PM
Nov 2024

Nope, they can talk about a lot of things as to why they voted as they did, but it wasn't a vote to support morals. It was just the opposite.

Skittles

(162,408 posts)
23. any "christian" who voted for Trump, THEIR FAITH IS BULLSHIT
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 08:26 PM
Nov 2024

pure and utter BULLSHIT

Frank D. Lincoln

(894 posts)
19. We were in extreme denial to think that
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 02:43 PM
Nov 2024

this perennially racist and misogynist country would elect a black female president running against a white male, even one who speaks highly of Adolf Hitler and his generals.

usonian

(16,390 posts)
21. I am so saddened by this. Racism and misogyny are taught.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 03:07 PM
Nov 2024

Often by people who learned better (and you know what I mean).

Aversion. It's taught. 24 by 7 by 365.

Working on a cure. You don't cure it overnight or maybe even in lifetimes, but we can overwhelm it.

See my very early (usonian) post. It rings true all the time.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219261166#post1

alwaysinasnit

(5,349 posts)
5. A lot of these "good, devout Christians" voted for tfg specifically because they know he will hurt people
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 01:42 PM
Nov 2024

they don't like or don't consider worthy. Yup, that is exactly what Jesus would do.

Skittles

(162,408 posts)
24. which is proof their "faith" is absolute fucking bullshit
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 08:27 PM
Nov 2024

but then, I already knew that

PortTack

(35,363 posts)
6. Truth be known...we are the enablers in a codependent relationship. We need to walk away and let them falter
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 01:47 PM
Nov 2024

Macrophylla

(201 posts)
26. I really did
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 08:39 PM
Nov 2024

As a child touch the stove burner with my finger intentionally, immediately after my father said "it's hot it. will burn you and it will hurt".
It did and to this day I have never done it again.
Some people have never learned this lesson. Pain will show them the way, it has a way of getting your attention.

bronxiteforever

(10,114 posts)
8. As the Bulwarks Mona Charen wrote
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 01:51 PM
Nov 2024

They voted for him after he pantomimed a sex act on a microphone. How about that for the free worlds leader?

mdbl

(5,906 posts)
9. Agreed. Making it a horse race covered up the facts of the corruption
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 01:55 PM
Nov 2024

The fact is, not just Dump but the entire repub party has proven itself unworthy in too many ways to mention here to govern a civil society - all the way to their corrupt judges. The rule of law hasn't prevailed.

Dan

(4,436 posts)
11. Please, relax and calm down.....it it help knowing this...
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 01:58 PM
Nov 2024

That half the population doesn’t know what ‘fascism’ is or what it means.

Mountain Mule

(1,088 posts)
13. "Oh, he's just saying that" and "Trump is just being Trump"
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 02:09 PM
Nov 2024

Are the excuses I hear from Trump voters around here.

Yeah, right.

We will all pay for their terminal stupidity.

Farmer-Rick

(11,692 posts)
14. Yeah, even if Putin, Musk and starlink
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 02:20 PM
Nov 2024

Manipulated the tabulation of our votes, someone voted for the fascist dicktater. Someone got us close enough to be mere percentage points away from installing a dictator and the destruction of American democracy.

I hope they enjoyed their very last free and maybe fair vote.

Justice matters.

(8,100 posts)
15. "They" don't know what "Fascism" is.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 02:24 PM
Nov 2024

Yep. "They" R THAT dumb.

There are a LOT of important things they know close to nothing about.

Celebrities, the price of eggs, and that's about it.

Good luck asking them to point any foreign nation on a map aside from Canada and Mexico...

txwhitedove

(4,079 posts)
18. Agree, me too. Why are we mocked as the "smartypants party" instead of the "we care" party which now
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 02:41 PM
Nov 2024

seems to be the big difference.

NBachers

(18,368 posts)
20. We now have our own Slobodan Milosevic; it won't be long before the rape camps and "pig slaughter pens" start to appear.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 02:58 PM
Nov 2024
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