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lees1975

(5,157 posts)
Sun Sep 8, 2024, 12:53 PM Sep 8

Justice in America is dead.

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2024/09/justice-in-america-is-dead.html

It's time to face facts.

We've come a long, long way from those days, just months ago, when Trump faced over 90 indictments for crimes he committed against "we, the people." From an insurrection aimed at overturning the Constitutional guarantee of the peaceful transfer of power, and the crimes committed in carrying that out, to stealing classified documents exposing our country to espionage, to intimidating and lying to poll workers and attempting to subvert election results in Georgia, to committing fraud in order to avoid having an affair with a porn star exposed prior to an election, it's all been lost in the incredible bureaucracy of various levels of the legal system that seem almost designed to protect political criminals like Trump from ever being brought to justice.

When all of this started happening, I really didn't want to listen to the few voices raised in doubt about whether any of this would ever come to anything more than just media talk. "Now we've finally got him!" was a phrase I heard and saw in multiple places, especially where Democrats gather to discuss politics.

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And here we are. Even the one case, in the State of New York, which took almost a decade to prosecute, where there was an actual trial before the election, concluding with 34 felony convictions, has been neutralized, weakened, and pushed off to the side, the sentencing postponed, and postponed again, now not to occur until weeks after the election is over.

And so, all of those who were once ridiculed and criticized for not believing in our justice system, for being critical of a Democratic-appointed Attorney General, for not believing that the system was powerful enough to endure, as it was intended, in spite of human error, to work on behalf of the people, have been vindicated.

The system is broken. Justice, in America, is dead.
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lees1975

(5,157 posts)
2. If the incoming Democratic administration wants to earn credibility for prosecuting criminals and defending democracy
Sun Sep 8, 2024, 01:29 PM
Sep 8

then they need to figure out a way to get that trial started in Chutkin's court NOW. It has been way too long since the events occurred. Kamala Harris is a prosecutor and she's been a whole heck of a lot faster in her career. Push it with Garland, make him move his damn ass.

erronis

(16,440 posts)
3. No, justice is not dead. But it is not functioning as efficiently and effectively as it could.
Sun Sep 8, 2024, 01:51 PM
Sep 8

There have been many good outcomes from many court cases involving trump and the people surrounding and supporting him.

The toughest cases are those that can be appealed again and again, sometimes to the SCOTUS by people and organizations with very deep pockets and connections to power. Justice delayed is not always denied.

However I do fear that the corrupt John Robert's court can be deadly impediment to justice and has shown itself to be willing to be bought and controlled by outsiders (well "friends" of the court.)

lees1975

(5,157 posts)
5. Justice is dead and so is the free press.
Sun Sep 8, 2024, 06:28 PM
Sep 8

From the Signal Press

But what I do know, is that not only have we seen the death of justice in America, we have also seen the death of the free press. It's happened right in front of us. They've been reporting all of this collapse and outrage as if it were just routine, no more sensational than the liquor store down the street getting robbed for the fifth time. And today's news programs were sickening drivel, inconsequential babble and driven by the ignorance of people who call themselves "journalists."

The New York Times puts its motto on its pages, "Democracy dies in darkness." Well, people, the sun has gone down fast, and we are in the last moments of twilight for our Democracy. It's been left up to us.
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