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Zorro

(16,067 posts)
Sat Jul 20, 2024, 09:51 AM Jul 20

'We're going to head into a civil war.' Bill Baird, the 'father' of birth control, on the religious right and the Court

Bill Baird has been called many things: butcher, murderer, pied piper of sex, unholy deviant. It’s hard to imagine the 92-year-old man on the white couch once evoked so much wrath. But it was a dangerous time when Baird — who was shot at and punched, who lost his family and was jailed — won a 1972 Supreme Court decision that legalized contraception for unmarried women, earning him the nickname the “father” of birth control.

The privacy issues raised in Eisenstadt vs. Baird were cited less than a year later when the court voted to protect a woman’s right to abortion in Roe vs. Wade. Baird was elated but prescient about what was to come. He knew the persuasions of preachers and the power of the Bible to provoke America’s morality police. He warned a complacent abortion rights movement that the victory was in danger from a well-organized Christian right that would galvanize the Republican Party.

In 1980, he appeared like a party-crashing, secular prophet at a Dallas religious convention where televangelist Jerry Falwell and other right-wing pastors were mobilizing Christian voters and calling for Supreme Court justices to oppose abortion: “This is the first time in the history of this great nation of ours,” Baird said at the time, “that any single group has tried to seize control of the U.S. Supreme Court to force a particular religious viewpoint.”

And he says it’s happening again.

“No one listened. Look at today,” said Baird, sitting in a sunroom in a house in the green hills north of Philadelphia. “We’re going to head into a civil war. They [evangelicals] believe this ‘orange Jesus’ — this Trump — has special powers from God. I saw it developing back then. I knew it was coming. I’m still fighting it. This is the worst Supreme Court I’ve ever seen.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2024-07-18/you-may-not-know-the-name-but-bill-baird-is-the-father-of-birth-control

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'We're going to head into a civil war.' Bill Baird, the 'father' of birth control, on the religious right and the Court (Original Post) Zorro Jul 20 OP
K&R ck4829 Jul 20 #1
Those who want the Civil War have no idea what it entails and Turbineguy Jul 20 #2
That is where this is leading to kansasobama Jul 20 #3
I got no use for the South. BWdem4life Jul 20 #4
And leave millions of enslaved African-Americans in chains? Aristus Jul 20 #5
Never woulda happened. BWdem4life Jul 20 #6

Turbineguy

(38,092 posts)
2. Those who want the Civil War have no idea what it entails and
Sat Jul 20, 2024, 09:59 AM
Jul 20

how the aftermath will be dealt with. One thing we know, for a lot of people, the last one is still not settled.

In England they had civil wars that essentially went on for hundreds of years.

kansasobama

(1,231 posts)
3. That is where this is leading to
Sat Jul 20, 2024, 10:18 AM
Jul 20

Yes. We will never see how it ends in our lifetime. There is one option. Before the worse happens, a confederation of 4 states in 4 geographic regions may hold off the bloodshed that could happen in these wars. Only defense is under a federal power. Individual can do their own stuff. Problem is how to form these federations? Even in California, there are huge MAGA areas. Even in my red Kansas, there are solid blue pockets. Very scary.

It is also time to rewrite Constitution. That is impossible as you need 38 states to ratify.

I am merely throwing out ideas here to save the country. MAGA is here to stay, whether Dems win or lose. Supreme Court will be MAGA whether we win or lose. Losing will make it more MAGA.

BWdem4life

(2,156 posts)
6. Never woulda happened.
Sat Jul 20, 2024, 09:53 PM
Jul 20

Slaves would have continued to take the Underground Railroad north until there were none left, or until those remaining revolted.

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