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Drum

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Mon Jun 17, 2024, 01:17 AM Jun 2024

NYTimes no paywall: "Trump Would Be Long Gone if Only We Could ..."

June 12, 2024
By Thomas B. Edsall
Mr. Edsall contributes a weekly column from Washington, D.C., on politics, demographics and inequality.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/12/opinion/trump-biden-democrats-strategy.html?unlocked_article_code=1.0U0.LF6Q.LNAONktHY9ZS&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb

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A central predicament of President Biden’s campaign is how to persuade voters to abandon Donald Trump.

“In 2012 the Obama campaign turned a nice guy, Mitt Romney, into a piece of crap,” Steve Murphy, a co-founder of the Democratic media firm MVAR Media, told me. “You can’t do that to Trump because everybody already knows he’s a piece of crap.”

Not only do voters know that Trump is a liar and corrupt, narcissistic and venal; his supporters have repeatedly found ways to slide past his liabilities.

In April, before the former president was convicted on 34 felony counts by a New York jury, and again this month, after he was found guilty, YouGov asked voters: “Do you think someone who has been convicted of a felony should be allowed to become president?”

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NYTimes no paywall: "Trump Would Be Long Gone if Only We Could ..." (Original Post) Drum Jun 2024 OP
The problem isn't Biden, but the American people. The fact is a large segment of the country are racist, sexist and JohnSJ Jun 2024 #1
Not just Bannon. rubbersole Jun 2024 #2
Trump's cult does not believe any of this is true. It is as simple as that. patricia92243 Jun 2024 #3
Trump cultists want a leader to tell their elitist adversaries no_hypocrisy Jun 2024 #4
Mock Trump Roy Rolling Jun 2024 #5
I'm Drum, and I approve this message 👆 Drum Jun 2024 #6
Stephen Colbert is helpful! CTyankee Jun 2024 #7

JohnSJ

(94,843 posts)
1. The problem isn't Biden, but the American people. The fact is a large segment of the country are racist, sexist and
Mon Jun 17, 2024, 01:44 AM
Jun 2024

bigots, who with the help of the MSM legitimize a racist, sexist, bigot, and someone who tried to overthrow the US government.

Their constant "both sides do it", and false equivalencies helped bring us to where we are today.

When George Wallace was running for president, there was actually a press that exposed Wallace for what he was.

Thanks to Murdochn empire, and others with the extreme right wing controlling 95% of the talk hate radio air waves none of this is surprising.

Why would a thug like Steve Bannon and others even get a radio show?



rubbersole

(8,002 posts)
2. Not just Bannon.
Mon Jun 17, 2024, 01:52 AM
Jun 2024

All of these right wing talking heads are weirdos. Shallow to a fault. Their audience will never hear 'both sides' or they'd turn the radio/TV off.

no_hypocrisy

(48,062 posts)
4. Trump cultists want a leader to tell their elitist adversaries
Mon Jun 17, 2024, 04:12 AM
Jun 2024

to shut up and do what he says. And retribution against them.

And they want entertainment, not leadership. Same theme as Sarah Palin in 2008. (My friend said Palin "looked like fun." )

Roy Rolling

(7,114 posts)
5. Mock Trump
Mon Jun 17, 2024, 04:24 AM
Jun 2024

Trump says attacks on him are attacks on his followers.

Okay, if you want to have him shed followers like an animal sheds parasites then make the host unlivable.

Always show fumbling photos, video clips, and embarrassing memes. Humiliate the orange man. Make his followers embarrassed because they think the stink will rub off on them. Trump will be embarrassed and so will his devotees for following, and being conned, by an obviously flawed salesman. They aren’t patriots to their idol, they’re only customers.

In cases like this, give him what he wants—the scorn of society. The rest of his flock aren’t as eager to be scorned 24/7 everywhere they go like him. They’ll grow tired of that shit.

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