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lees1975

(5,172 posts)
Sat Jun 8, 2024, 09:01 PM Jun 2024

We may already be past the ability to have a free and fair election, and the GOP is going to try every cheat they can;

Last edited Sun Jun 9, 2024, 06:59 PM - Edit history (1)

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2024/06/we-may-already-be-past-ability-to-hold.html

If you've been paying attention, you know that the Republican party is going to use every possible resource that it has to make sure the results of the 2024 election are not certified, and that somehow, they can cheat the constitution of its power to guarantee the American people the right to elect their own leaders. I'm not exaggerating. Go take a look at the collective record they're making as we head to the 2024 election.

The conservative, Republican legislature in the state of Ohio has already tried to figure out how to pass legislation to keep President Biden's name off the ballot by setting an earlier deadline for getting it there than the Democratic party will meet with the nomination at their Chicago convention this summer. That forced the Democrats, and the Biden campaign, to change their rules on how a nominee is named by the party, to make sure the official announcement meets Ohio's deadline. As far as I can tell, while that did ring some alarm bells and get some action, it was an "on our heels" kind of reaction.

These people are going to do everything they can, including cheat in every possible way, to avoid another Trump defeat at the ballot box. They think they can do it, and get away with it, because what they've seen so far, a conclusion with which I would concur, is that no one will hold them accountable.

Author's note: The following paragraph has been edited to reflect the incorrect assumption that the legislation passed in Ohio regarding the cutoff dates for party nominees was just recently passed. It it not new specific to this election, but what the legislature in Ohio has done is refused to waive the date for the Democrats, as they have done for both parties in the past. The early date requirement, however, is still a tool being used by a conservative legislature to make it more difficult for Democrats to get on the ballot.

The conservative, Republican legislature in the state of Ohio has already tried to use legislation passed earlier, regarding when names can be accepted for its Presidential ballot, to keep President Biden's name off the ballot by refusing to waive the deadline for getting it there than the Democratic party will meet with the nomination at their Chicago convention this summer. They have waived it in the past, when the Republican convention wouldn't meet the same deadline. That has forced the Democrats, and the Biden campaign, to change their rules on how a nominee is named by the party, to make sure the official announcement meets Ohio's deadline. As far as I can tell, while that did ring some alarm bells and get some action, it was an "on our heels" kind of reaction.
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We may already be past the ability to have a free and fair election, and the GOP is going to try every cheat they can; (Original Post) lees1975 Jun 2024 OP
Who is signalpress? gab13by13 Jun 2024 #1
We need more than Elias doing this. lees1975 Jun 2024 #3
Marc Elias is a regular on the Brian Tyler Cohen blogcast too. magicarpet Jun 2024 #6
Thanks for the link. lees1975 Jun 2024 #8
Share it far and wide. magicarpet Jun 2024 #12
I know fully who Marc Elias is. I get his emails &read him on DemocracyDocket.com. I see nothing that ids him on this hlthe2b Jun 2024 #21
Afraid this might prove profetic. magicarpet Jun 2024 #2
You don't know you're in a dictatorship until it's too late. unblock Jun 2024 #4
I'm sure the DOJ is all over it. Secretly of course. onecaliberal Jun 2024 #5
Well, you see, the DOJ has to wait for a Congressional committee to complete an investigation... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #10
Cheating is all they have. FalloutShelter Jun 2024 #7
I absolutely agree, the rightwingers WILL be cheating in every way that cheating can happen... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #9
It has been this arbitrary date set by the Ohio legislature. magicarpet Jun 2024 #13
Yes, thanks, that's what I thought.... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #14
duly noted lees1975 Jun 2024 #22
They've been cheating since the "electoral college" was established. usonian Jun 2024 #11
Never forget the bottom line here. calimary Jun 2024 #15
That's why we have such strict policies in place Warpy Jun 2024 #16
The Supremes are going to be Farmer-Rick Jun 2024 #17
The DOJ has arrested many of the J6 foot soldiers, but none of the insiders (as in congress critters), flashman13 Jun 2024 #18
I'm not Pollyanna, but... BadgerMom Jun 2024 #19
I am a realist. PlutosHeart Jun 2024 #20
I'm right there with you. lees1975 Jun 2024 #23

gab13by13

(23,997 posts)
1. Who is signalpress?
Sat Jun 8, 2024, 09:09 PM
Jun 2024

Turn on Nicolle Wallace on Wednesday, she usually has Marc Elias on her show. He will explain all of the ratfucking and what he is doing to fight it. Elias has been combatting or filing lawsuits across the country.

lees1975

(5,172 posts)
3. We need more than Elias doing this.
Sat Jun 8, 2024, 09:11 PM
Jun 2024

This needs to be an all out assault on GOP dominated state governments.

magicarpet

(15,830 posts)
6. Marc Elias is a regular on the Brian Tyler Cohen blogcast too.
Sat Jun 8, 2024, 09:27 PM
Jun 2024

Marc Elias is very informative and knowledgeable in voting issues. He has a web sight at [link:democracydocket|

https://www.democracydocket.com/

hlthe2b

(105,010 posts)
21. I know fully who Marc Elias is. I get his emails &read him on DemocracyDocket.com. I see nothing that ids him on this
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 06:24 AM
Jun 2024

I scoured the link, "signal press" and read the about signal press. While I don't say I could not have missed it, I did not see Marc Elias' name nor anyone id'd as the author of the article.

So why do you believe he wrote this?

magicarpet

(15,830 posts)
2. Afraid this might prove profetic.
Sat Jun 8, 2024, 09:10 PM
Jun 2024

They will rig, cheat, and steal where ever and when ever they get the opportunity and think they can get away with it.

Think. Again.

(15,684 posts)
10. Well, you see, the DOJ has to wait for a Congressional committee to complete an investigation...
Sat Jun 8, 2024, 09:43 PM
Jun 2024

...before they can consider putting anything on their to-do list.

Think. Again.

(15,684 posts)
9. I absolutely agree, the rightwingers WILL be cheating in every way that cheating can happen...
Sat Jun 8, 2024, 09:41 PM
Jun 2024

...they WILL be throwing everything at wall, and we must be ready to dodge their attempts from every angle.

But I think there may be a mistake in the OP? Wasn't the earlier Ohio nomination deadline set by law a few years ago, before the Democratic party set this year's convention date? The OP makes it sound like the Ohio deadline was set deliberately earlier this year in reaction to this year's convention schedule.

magicarpet

(15,830 posts)
13. It has been this arbitrary date set by the Ohio legislature.
Sat Jun 8, 2024, 10:24 PM
Jun 2024

But in 2014, 2016, and 2020 they waived the date requierment for both parties. This time around the Rethug convention is earlier enough that it did not conflict. But the Dem convention was to set too late to announce who was nominated and the legislature this time around refused to offer a waiver. So Biden's name was to be omitted from the Ohio voting ballot when printed.

It was all just Fascist bullshit political games and flexing of political muscles.

A pee pee contest often partaken by little boy's. I can pee further that you can - so that makes me top dog and you the little fuzzy kitten.

Grow the fuck up men,... stop acting like little immature boys.

Think. Again.

(15,684 posts)
14. Yes, thanks, that's what I thought....
Sat Jun 8, 2024, 10:30 PM
Jun 2024

....and I agree, it was very weak attempt to be bitchy and I guess they thought they were going to use it to get some other legislature passed, but perhaps the OP should be corrected to reflect that.

usonian

(12,347 posts)
11. They've been cheating since the "electoral college" was established.
Sat Jun 8, 2024, 09:55 PM
Jun 2024

The DOJ may get a bit more active since Republicans whacked Merrick Garland upside the head with a two by four, to reward his "fairness".

Learned the hard way how to "play fair" with scum.

calimary

(83,453 posts)
15. Never forget the bottom line here.
Sat Jun 8, 2024, 10:52 PM
Jun 2024

Pathetic fucks. If the were offering anything good, more people would vote for ‘em.

Personally, I see NOTHING appealing enough to switch over. And besides, it’s a party full of bad guys.

Warpy

(112,782 posts)
16. That's why we have such strict policies in place
Sat Jun 8, 2024, 11:11 PM
Jun 2024

because the assholes in this country have tried it forever, from stuffing ballot boxes to simply having them go missing into a mop closet (which they did here in NM before we changed the system in 2005). As long as boxes are sealed, the seals haven't been broken, and the chain of custody is strictly maintained, the cheaters are going to have their work cut out for them. My guess is that they'll take the Jim Crow route, having gangs of armed thugs standing around polling places. I also think law enforcement is going to get sick of clearing them out and is going to stop being gentle with dumb white guys.

However, if TFG is able to diddle the EC again, it will be our last election of any kind.

Farmer-Rick

(10,955 posts)
17. The Supremes are going to be
Sat Jun 8, 2024, 11:26 PM
Jun 2024

Playing a big part in the convicted felon cheating his way to the white house. Just like they did with the loser W.

When they rule illegally, and not in accordance with the constitution, we have to be ready to stand up for our votes. We can't just rollover and say, "oh well," like when they stole it from Gore.

flashman13

(835 posts)
18. The DOJ has arrested many of the J6 foot soldiers, but none of the insiders (as in congress critters),
Sat Jun 8, 2024, 11:49 PM
Jun 2024

plotter, and managers of the coup have be held to account. Ergo, if you continue couping nothing will happen to you. So coup away.

Prosecution is meant to be at least as much of a deterrent as a punishment. This has been a major failing of the DOJ and Garland in particular.

BadgerMom

(2,915 posts)
19. I'm not Pollyanna, but...
Sat Jun 8, 2024, 11:49 PM
Jun 2024

I feel pretty certain that the upcoming Republican shenanigans (crimes) have been heralded well enough by the GOP that Dem party leadership has taken note. I’d be shocked if there aren’t defenses planned. There was a lot of concern among us about the Ohio ballot. I, for one, was gratified that the resolution of that potential disaster was fairly graceful. Biden is a consummate politician. He isn’t going to be surprised by these goons. Dark Brandon is kinda real.

PlutosHeart

(1,445 posts)
20. I am a realist.
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 12:03 AM
Jun 2024

This country is in big trouble. Not seeing the actions needed to sufficiently stop it. The other day for the first time I actually got a stomach ache. Bad one. From the stress of that very issue.

I want to believe this will be fixed somehow.

lees1975

(5,172 posts)
23. I'm right there with you.
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 09:16 PM
Jun 2024

I want to believe that there are Democrats taking notice, and doing everything they can to call it out and prevent it. But I'm like you, I don't see the actions needed to sufficiently stop it. I keep waiting for the DNC to ramp up the rhetoric and start firing. But, for the most part, they seem to be hiding in the background, and they've got a lot of money, so I don't know why.

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