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lees1975

(5,171 posts)
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 11:48 AM Jun 2024

An open letter to Evangelicals who support Trump.

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2024/06/an-open-letter-to-evangelicals-who.html

He is now a felon, convicted of sexual assault and now, of illegally using the powers of the Presidency to cover up an affair with a porn star. He was convicted by a jury of his peers, in a fair trial in which most of those who testified against him were former associates and people who worked for him. He had the chance to testify on his own behalf, but his own lawyers, who know his tendency to ramble, to lie through his teeth and his inability to control his ego and be silent when it's necessary, were afraid that allowing that would only lead to his incriminating himself. To consider making such a person a national leader again is irresponsible at best, and for a Christian, a sinful perversion of principle.

Conversely, someone who claims to be Christian lives a life where there is visible evidence of Christian practice. I challenge any Evangelical supporter of Trump to find, in his rhetoric, behavior, demeanor, speeches at rallies or in the general layout of his campaign, anything that resembles the list of virtues found in Matthew 5:1-11, or the fruit of the Spirit in Galatians 5:22-23. What you'll find, even with just a surface observation, is fornication, impurity, licentiousness, idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, anger, quarrels, dissentions, carousing, and things like these. I've just described and provided open evidence of all of that, which the Apostle Paul calls the works of the flesh. In supporting Trump, Evangelicals own all of this, too.

Even if Trump's presidency had been politically successful, it would still be an endorsement of the man's moral bankruptcy for me to vote for him. I could not, under any circumstances, support someone like that as a political leader of my country. But Trump's presidency was a political disaster. He was one of the most corrupt, inept, and ineffective Presidents in American history. He had no plan, no sense of direction and his focus was completely self-serving. The top priority was to cut taxes for the wealthy and prosperous, and he did so while deceptively increasing taxes on those who work for a living.

Stop supporting this madness. Do not cast a ballot for anyone who endorses or supports anything related to Trump's agenda. I'm not suggesting who you should vote for, only you can decide that. But casting a ballot for Trump, or for any politician who supports or enables him, constitutes full acceptance and ownership of everything that goes along with that, including putting yourself in the position of voting for a man who is a convicted felon, standing against the laws of the very country you claim to be defending. And while I'd suggest that your inability to cast a vote for Biden is based on much of the ignorance and false information that's been spread through this whole scenario, staying home on election day would be a move toward redemption.
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hlthe2b

(105,010 posts)
1. Geez, what restraint...
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 11:55 AM
Jun 2024

Personally, I think that I would have had to start out that letter with: "WTF is wrong with you!!!"

50 Shades Of Blue

(10,657 posts)
3. These people are immune to reason. Picture the old Far Side cartoon
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 12:06 PM
Jun 2024

"What we say to dogs" - a man is issuing specific commands to (and addressing) his dog Ginger, and all Ginger hears is "blah blah blah Ginger blah blah blah.

Evagelifundies hear one word: ABORTION.

Aristus

(67,624 posts)
4. Sooner or later, one of them will spout "Well, you know, King David, blah-blah-blah,
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 12:12 PM
Jun 2024

blessed by God, blah-blah-blah..."

It might be helpful to ask them if they are a Christian or a Davidian. If you worship King David, isn't that a violation of the First Commandment?

Aristus

(67,624 posts)
8. Yep.
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 12:22 PM
Jun 2024

But the repuke christianuts constantly trot him out as an example of how one can be a lying, treacherous, adulterous abuser of power and still be blessed by God, and all that shit.

lees1975

(5,171 posts)
12. Yeah, I hear that from some Evangelicals. Big difference, though, if you follow the Biblical narrative is that
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 02:40 PM
Jun 2024

David got called out on his abuse of power, and responded by repentance, and making restitution. Trump is not repentant and he is selfish.

delisen

(6,332 posts)
9. Evangelicals prefer to quote the Old Testament
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 12:32 PM
Jun 2024

Not sure why they claim to be followers of Christ or Jesus.

ultralite001

(1,046 posts)
5. Also from the author's blog...
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 12:13 PM
Jun 2024

I'm a Democrat. Yeah, it's a political party and it has its flaws and I don't buy into every position or theory, nor do I believe in every single candidate. But within its principles lies the best hope for the future of American democracy. I know the difference between freedom and tyranny, between constitutionally guaranteed rights and doing whatever you please and between my obligation as a member of a democratic society, and my own selfishness.




[https://signalpress.blogspot.com/p/about-signal-press.html]

lees1975

(5,171 posts)
10. If this election is going to be as close as some of the pollsters seem to think it is, then the margins are important.
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 12:43 PM
Jun 2024

There will be Evangelicals who will sit this one out. And whatever it takes to undermine their support for Trump, I'm willing to do. Most of them have simply lost track of who the guy is. He hasn't changed, he hasn't become one of them, he hasn't repented or converted. If 5% of them finally see how anti-Christian, inconsistent and hypocritical it is for someone to follow the Christian gospel as literally as Evangelicals claim to do, and support this orange headed demagogue, that's enough to tip several states blue.

Girard442

(6,327 posts)
11. Whatever it takes.
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 02:34 PM
Jun 2024

My own personal feeling is that we are more likely to get some marginal evangelical voters to stay home and get some marginal moderates to decide to show up.

That's just me.

lees1975

(5,171 posts)
13. Frankly, I don't think this is going to be as close as the polls and pundits are indicating.
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 03:15 PM
Jun 2024

Their recent track record isn't great. And Republicans aren't showing the kind of enthusiastic support for Trump, especially not in caucuses and primaries, that leads to factoring that into polling data, though they seem to automatically do that for Trump, and figure Biden's age is a detractor. People who understand what's at stake aren't concerned about Biden's age.

Gore1FL

(21,629 posts)
14. I don't know why this confuses so many people. Why do people think religious people with having some superior morality?
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 04:16 PM
Jun 2024

They don't. American Christianity has become has become a right-wing political movement in this country. While there may be liberal Christians, they have either allowed it to happen or been unable to stop it from happening. The brand is poisoned.

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