Panic at White House over Trump's July 4th plans: 'Who thought this was a good idea?'
Source: Raw Story/MSN
Fresh off the embarrassment of a sparse crowd at last week's Great American Start Fair rally on the National Mall, Trump has now trained his focus on July Fourth an event he's hyped as the "most unforgettable birthday party any country has ever seen." But behind closed White House doors, officials are quietly freaking out that nobody will show up.
According to CNN, the lackluster attendance at Trump's previous speech infuriated the president, sparking genuine fears among his staff that Independence Day will be an even more visible flop. Triple-digit heat, tightened security, and a schedule stretching well into Saturday night aren't exactly drawing cards.
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Unlike past Independence Day celebrations, attendees won't be allowed to bring coolers onto the mall during what's forecast to be a brutal 100-degree heat wave, the report notes. The massive fireworks display which organizers are banking will set a new Guinness World Recordwon't even begin until nearly midnight.
The president last week implored fans to show up and also lowered expectations, telling rally attendees, "Your favorite president will be speaking. So please show up because if we have two empty seats, you know what's going to happen? The fake news is going to say, 'He didn't fill out the arena.'"
Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/panic-at-white-house-over-trump-s-july-4th-plans-who-thought-this-was-a-good-idea/ar-AA26ZM6b
Ritabert
(2,855 posts)twodogsbarking
(19,915 posts)Prof. Toru Tanaka
(2,991 posts)I am predicting a mammoth fail for his 4th of July I love me fest. The high temperatures plus not being able to bring coolers with drinks will really cause attendance to take a hit. Although I wouldnt be surprised if there are crowds across the river in Virginia to watch the fireworks (and theyll be able to have coolers, also.)
Marcuse
(9,153 posts)
Ritabert
(2,855 posts)Bengus81
(10,628 posts)set up in an area outside for the massive overflow crowds. It was 100% empty.
Ritabert
(2,855 posts)johnnyplankton
(680 posts)underpants
(197,908 posts)Did they even take the Metro in Jan. 6th?
These arent exactly mass transit type people plus city folk scare them.
Id think DC residents and locals go regardless of who the POTUS is but they may stay away. Hell, Im sure you can see the fireworks from all over.
dave99
(696 posts)Farmer-Rick
(12,872 posts)You have to buy your water there because you're not supposed to bring it in. You can't bring coolers, water or chairs in.
He might have gotten a few folks who would make a midnight picnic out of it.....which actually sounds kind of fun. But if you can't bring anything in, so much for that idea.
It's like they did everything possible to suck the fun out of the event and make attendees miserable. Just having to listen to that blowhard is torture enough.
dave99
(696 posts)orleans
(37,507 posts)but since people can't bring in their own food/coolers/etc their picnics might just end up being as much of a flop as we can predict: they stand around with nothing to eat b/c the ice cream melted again and the food booths are closed or the electric went down again so they can't even buy their "picnic food."
gop -- screwing people as often and as hard as they can.
Marie Marie
(11,650 posts)to sit on rather than down on the grass? If not, how uncomfortable for the age of most of his base not to mention that the mosquitos seem to like having their targets down at ground level. I get most of my bites in my backyard down around my ankles and lower legs.
PatSeg
(54,137 posts)about the food trucks in DC, I don't think buying from these questionable people is very appealing, not to mention they are VERY expensive.
"FOR "ALL THE PEOPLE EATING FOOD RIGHT HERE? THE FOOD ISN'T BEING REFRIGERATED. THAT'S FUCKED UP. THAT'S GROSS."
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=21341158
The Madcap
(2,190 posts)and pulled directly from the Reflecting Pool. Can you say "toxic algae," anyone?
PatSeg
(54,137 posts)Bringing back the Green River soft drinks!
onenote
(46,369 posts)It will peak at around 96-99 in the early afternoon and will have dropped to around 85 by 10 pm maybe a bit lower if and when there is a thunderstorm. But it will be humid and miserable even at those temperatures
cab67
(3,941 posts)I live in Evanston, just north of Chicago, during the summer. We could (theoretically) go see the fireworks at Navy Pier near downtown Chicago, or we could see them at several other sites along the lake shore, some of them closer to where we are and with better parking.
FSogol
(47,691 posts)of the Pentagon. We won't bother this year. The 4th has been Trumpified.
oberle
(477 posts)They won't go see that turd.
RockCreek
(1,653 posts)Wonderful if that was on purpose.
And a clear lack of involvement in child care, EVER to time this so far past any kids' bedtimes (at least the legal kind of child care)
Lovie777
(24,603 posts)oh my...................
this administration tends to hire buddies that are completely incompetent, unqualified greedy SOBs.
yardwork
(70,054 posts)The Madcap
(2,190 posts)Unless it's the ballroom, of course.
stage left
(3,388 posts)And any, or all, of his minions and henchmen.
Cheezoholic
(4,166 posts)They aren't even close period.
wnylib
(26,877 posts)the people he hires, they might set DC on fire.
Hope that DC heat is not dry heat.
usonian
(27,262 posts)
And a gift from Iran, to celebrate the peace treaty

Baitball Blogger
(52,924 posts)Trump, who from the beginning has been obsessed about crowd size, will end it with no audience at all.
Jerry2144
(3,390 posts)Up from two presidents who have passed on the Fourth. Though the other two were former presidents when they passed. Come on Blood Clot do your thing. Hamberder I know youre capable of being the super hero the world needs.
lastlib
(28,879 posts)J. Adams & T. Jefferson, 1826, and J. Monroe, 1831.)
I honestly hate to think of him being the next one, and besmirching our national birthday with his wretched stench.
Jerry2144
(3,390 posts)Sentiment is still valid
FadedMullet
(1,109 posts).......because of all the folks peeing on it.
allegorical oracle
(6,713 posts)when he was asked if he considered himself a star. He said, "I guess you could say that." Or his famous, "When you're a star they let you do it." He must be center stage at every event.
pat_k
(14,563 posts)I remember watching the fireworks at Washington monument. I was pretty young so memories are a bit vague, but it was both very simple, and incredibly exciting. A picnic on the grass (lots of debate about the "best" spot) then the building anticipation of the wait for fireworks to start, which I'm sure was at dusk, around 9 PM.
Midnight fireworks for something that should be a family-friendly event is absolute lunacy. And if you can't bring a cooler, doesn't sound very conducive to picnicking.
And what's with an "arena"? I don't recall any sort of formal seating, but then again, I was pretty young and may not have been aware of other happenings.
One thing that's for sure, those shows instilled a lifelong love of fireworks displays.
Maru Kitteh
(32,117 posts)north of town - a sea of blankets with kids and dogs, worried moms and crying babies. I remember watching the fireflies blinking on and off in lazy waves over the dampish grass in the setting sun. We ate bologna sandwiches and drank iced tea on our blanket, chatting with neighbors. I wonder now about my parents - did they know how perfect it all was? I really hope that somehow they did know. I hope they knew how those sweet, warm summer memories would sustain their little girl some 50 years later.
pat_k
(14,563 posts)The simplest pleasures are the best!!
I have memories of hanging out with other kids from our apartment building in Arlington, running around the playground trying to catch them -- or being on the lookout to spot the first of the night. Endless fun.
No fireflies here in Seattle.
Since it was my first school age address, it was drilled into our heads. 1817 N. Quinn St, Arlington. I just looked and the building is still there, now advertised as luxury apartments. I had little to judge by, but I think our place was pretty modest. On Google maps it looks like the swings and little playground are gone.
But it was a fun building to grow up in. Feels like I spent hours on end hanging out and playing with the gang of kids from the building.
róisín_dubh
(12,407 posts)But I was visiting my mom and then my sister in NJ and PA a few weeks back and I forgot how much Ive missed them.
Alice Kramden
(2,995 posts)Thank you for sharing
Stacey Grove
(176 posts)Karasu
(2,356 posts)Last edited Wed Jul 1, 2026, 05:59 PM - Edit history (1)
stop them.
msongs
(74,553 posts)summer_in_TX
(4,379 posts)I once was at a long, long fireworks show. The first bit was wonderful. Then as it dragged on I started getting a headache and my eyes hurt because my pupils had expanded and contracted for 40 minutes or more. After so much over-stimulation I finally had to go hide in a dark place until it was completely over and we could leave.
twodogsbarking
(19,915 posts)genxlib
(6,194 posts)It was pretty cool to see the fireworks round the monuments.
But we had been watching celebrations all day long as the sun crept around the globe. There were a bunch that were more spectacular than ours.
After it was over, our friend summed it up with two words..."Paris wins".
And we went to a party.
I can only think of that when I see all this hullabaloo.
Also, I visited DC when it was over a 100 and it is no fun. I would skip it even without the MAGA speach
yardwork
(70,054 posts)When I was much younger and more resilient and I've never been tempted to go back there in July.
And winter in DC is not great either.
Basically the town is built on a swamp, so it's hot and humid or cold and wet most of the year. It's very nice in the fall.
electric_blue68
(27,992 posts)And going in low '80s, low humdity!
We know about summer humidity & 90°+ in NYC but we also have lovely low '80s low humidity. Maybe not as much bc climate change.
question everything
(52,658 posts)time.
yardwork
(70,054 posts)The capital had to be in Virginia, not allowed to be in Philly or NYC because of the power of the wealthy slave owners.
And they weren't willing to give up their land so the capital was built on a swamp.
The slavers have caused nothing but trouble from day one.
allegorical oracle
(6,713 posts)shoulder-to-shoulder and everybody was high. Smoke from weed was so thick that all you had to do was stand there and inhale. It was a large, happy crowd.
yardwork
(70,054 posts)TomSlick
(13,135 posts)We had to get there hours early. We spent the afternoon eating a picnic and drinking beer. With no coolers it would have been miserable.
There will be tens of people willing to sit in the heat with no food or drink and then have to suffer through a Trump speech.
Only Trump could screw-up the Fourth of July.
genxlib
(6,194 posts)Caught the cherry blossoms in peak season. The path around the tidal basin to the Jefferson Memorial is truly iconic
FakeNoose
(43,154 posts)This one is predicted to be 98 degrees at midnight. Yikes!
People would be nuts to go there.
Old Crank
(7,446 posts)With the new Supreme Court ruling will everyone be able to carry?
Leghorn21
(14,131 posts)sweaty days and nights with alternating panic attacks!!!
FUCKING IDIOTS
Bluetus
(3,361 posts)But the USA is over Trump.
Even the MAGA people haven't been showing up for his events for the past year. They still praise him when asked because they are fucking racists, asholes and morons. But they aren't supporting him. They aren't going out to sweat in teh hot sun to hear him recount all of the same personal grievances for the 500th time.
We know that. The question is why the WH staff is in panic only now? Haven't they been paying any attenmtion? I guess the ferris wheel in an otherwise deserted park last week was a dose of reality they aren't often allowed to process..
F them all. :et's see Trump in an epic fail. But is is a shame to do this to the nation on the 250th. This could have been uplifting for all.
Old Crank
(7,446 posts)Lives near DC. Days it's too hot and muggy for people to go to his failure fair.
The thong with fireworks is you can see big shows from a good distance and not have to deal with crowds, pat downs and traffic. Not to mention gouging for beverages and food.
yardwork
(70,054 posts)Means anyone there is dependent on the vendors selling $30 turkey legs.
DrFunkenstein
(8,932 posts)Which is to say, completely true.
Orrex
(67,567 posts)dalton99a
(96,397 posts)Justice matters.
(10,248 posts)the "hottest country" indeed...
(not really, but the climate-change denier-in-chief should experience his karma right there)
Seinan Sensei
(1,740 posts)Faster!
Dance faster!
Go, Donnie, go!
And the 4th really could be a true Independence Day.
Get up there Donny in 100 F heat and speak.
Exp
(1,076 posts)Srkdqltr
(10,165 posts)FakeNoose
(43,154 posts)He really thought they were coming to those rallies to see HIM!
Srkdqltr
(10,165 posts)BHDem53
(1,181 posts)Grokenstein
(6,468 posts)pat_k
(14,563 posts)..."You are America" series.
You Are America
https://www.obama.org/programs/presidential-center/you-are-america/
(emphasis is mine)
The People's Fourth
Spend July 4 outside at the Obama Presidential Center, rooted in the energy of the South Side. As the start of the You Are America series, this afternoon program brings together live music, performances, and activities across the John Lewis Plaza. DJ Hot Rod, Mucca Pazza, and Melody Angel perform throughout the day, with a mix of sets and transitions between acts. Whether you come with friends, family, or on your own, its an easy way to be part of the day and share time with others.
Sat, Jul 04 2:00pm - 7:00pm
John Lewis Plaza
The campus is open to public on July 4 and activities are first-come, first-served. Please note Museum admission is not included.
Mark Bradford: Layers of America
Learn about Mark Bradfords artistic practice, his commissioned artwork on campus, and his materially driven approach to abstraction. The discussion will be moderated by Louise Bernard, Founding Director of the Obama Presidential Center Museum.
Tue, Jul 07 6:30pm - 7:30pm
Elie Wiesel Auditorium
Admission $40
House Music on the Plaza
Experience the heartbeat of Chicago at our plaza house music celebration! Born in the underground clubs of our city, House music is a global phenomenon that celebrates unity, freedom, and rhythmic innovationborn right here in Chicago.
Be a part of this rare sonic journey as DJ Lady D and Jesse De La Pena perform back-to-back sets, bringing Chicago house music to the campus. Each set runs for one hour, with a transition between artists.
Dance, lounge, or discover the vibe at your own pace. Well close the session with a final group dance, paying tribute to one of our city's greatest gifts to music.
Fri, Jul 10 2:00pm - 4:00pm
John Lewis Plaza
House Music on the Plaza is free and open to the public. Tickets are not required to attend. Please note Museum admission is not included in this experience.
Events continue throughout July and into August that make me wish I still lived in the city of my birth, Chicago!!
ReRe
(12,200 posts)johnnyfins
(4,177 posts)Anything that causes the orange shitgibbon discomfort, makes me grin.
BigmanPigman
(55,764 posts)For the city's 300th birthday in 1983 there was non-stop celebrations for many days. Fireworks were all over the place. It was a VERY, VERY big deal.
I love fireworks and they had them on MY birthday(July 3rd). I'm almost a "Yankee Doodle Dandy, born on the 3rd of July".
I hate my country now and I blame the GOP for destroying the soul of one of the most patriotic people in the USA, me! Brain dead, purposely ignorant voting citizens (Raygunites) put us here and I HATE them for ruining MY country!!!!! I blame directly them for killing MY country!!!!! I do not forgive and forget, I get even and I am driven by my anger. It gives me strength to push through and fight theses traitors.
The US Constitutions allows for convicted traitors to be executed. THAT is what I want to make happen. Hang tRump from the nearest flag pole or bury him in an unmarked grave in his ballroom, or maybe show it live streamed on TV. The rating revenues alone should make up for about 25% of taxpayers money grifted by Team tRump. Another way to generate revenue would be for a very public burial site where people may openly piss on his grave for $5.
littlemissmartypants
(35,584 posts)Blumancru
(398 posts)An I.V. drip of Diet Coke.
Listen carefully, heat stroke. Youve got one job to do
Wonder Why
(7,439 posts)Paraphrase of Christmas Carol chapter 4
aggiesal
(11,010 posts)calimary
(91,549 posts)Mine would be Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Bill Clinton, and then maybe going back all the way to JFK.
I still think Al Gore would have been good, too.
dave99
(696 posts)was an American politician and humanitarian who served as the 39th president of the United States from 1977 to 1981. A member of the Democratic Party, Carter served as the 76th governor of Georgia from 1971 to 1975 and in the Georgia State Senate from 1963 to 1967. He lived longer than any other president in US history, reaching age 100.
calimary
(91,549 posts)I think Jimmy Carter got a raw deal, especially with all the ad guys and other communications specialists who piled in for Reagan like there was no tomorrow.
I think history will be a lot kinder to Jimmy Carter than others have been. He sure worked hard. And he took a lot of shit from those who can lob bombs at him from the safety and comfort of their living rooms. Proud to say I voted for him, both presidential cycles.
William Seger
(12,575 posts)dave99
(696 posts)he was a Republican
Sneederbunk
(17,789 posts)raccoon
(32,509 posts)IronLionZion
(51,725 posts)so God is ruining the MAGA plans this summer. Smiting and wrath!
Klondike Kat
(953 posts)so he's not wrong in that respect.
Botany
(78,316 posts)Go for it motherfucker.
Prairie Gates
(8,697 posts)We were visiting another couple (pre-kids) who lived there. We watched from a park in Arlington near the Iwo Jima statue - I don't really remember the details since I'm not from there. I do remember this: 1) there were thousands of people there picnicking; it was hard to find a spot to set up; 2) they wouldn't let us bring in any alcohol! They were literally checking coolers and refusing entry if you had beer or wine. I found this shocking and infantilizing - coming from NYC at the time where having a sophisticated wine program was part of the Picnics Olympics for various Central Park events. We had bought two bottles of wine at the Whole Foods over there in Arlington and we ended up pretty much chugging them in a parking lot before we went to the event. This was def during W Bush time, maybe 2005?
Kid Berwyn
(25,563 posts)