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riversedge

(82,318 posts)
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 03:08 PM Monday

Ford rehires experienced engineers after AI misses the mark

Source: foxbusiness.com



Published June 29, 2026 12:44pm EDT

By Eric Revell

Ford has rehired experienced human engineers to help address the shortcomings of artificial intelligence (AI) tools meant to tackle quality issues in the automaker's production processes.

The hiring push helped Ford top the JD Power 2026 U.S. Initial Quality Study (IQS) for the first time since 2010 amid improvements in the quality of its new vehicles, and follows some hard-learned lessons about the ability of AI to replace human knowledge in production processes.

"Artificial intelligence is a fantastic tool, but it's only as good as the information you use to train it," Charles Poon, Ford's vice president of vehicle hardware engineering, said on a press call Wednesday, according to a report by Bloomberg.

"Over prior years, we didn't pay as much attention as we should have to the experience of our most knowledgeable engineers that have been with us through many product cycles," he said.

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Ford rehires experienced engineers after AI misses the mark (Original Post) riversedge Monday OP
Ya think.................. turbinetree Monday #1
Now's the time to unionize FakeNoose Monday #2
They replaced the wrong people with AI. Should have replaced the idiot execs. Wonder Why Monday #3
Firing people from critical jobs isn't a very bright idea. patphil Monday #4
Deport AI for stealing our jobs IronLionZion Monday #5
The hyped ROI will never materialize pat_k Monday #6
Everyone knew this would happen at some point sakabatou Monday #7
Unfortunately, this is only temporary. Sooner or later AI will get good enough to replace the engineers permanently. Fil1957 Monday #8
And nuclear fusion will power our homes and warp drive will be a reality. paleotn Monday #10
This is not nuclear fusion. Nuclear fusion does not exist. AI does, and is already replacing people. Like any other Fil1957 Tuesday #23
The gains are slowing down, not speeding up Random Boomer Tuesday #18
Nobody knows what intelligence is yet. hunter Tuesday #19
I don't agree. However if you were to replace the word "intelligence" with the word "consciosness", I would agree 100% Fil1957 Tuesday #24
People frequently imitate intelligence... hunter Yesterday #25
And what have I been saying for months now. paleotn Monday #9
If you want... Maj. Dude Monday #11
Maybe some newer ones.... Delarage Tuesday #17
I always though AI was overrated Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Monday #12
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! Initech Monday #13
I hope they negotiated BIG raises. n/t mtngirl47 Monday #14
A bit off the mark NBachers Monday #15
May this be... 2naSalit Tuesday #16
I foresee a day when AI purposely builds unsafe vehicles mdbl Tuesday #20
AI does not think. It does not reason. It has no intelligence. Bluetus Tuesday #21
Fix Or Rehire Daily pstokely Tuesday #22
Well duh! sheshe2 Yesterday #26

patphil

(9,351 posts)
4. Firing people from critical jobs isn't a very bright idea.
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 04:41 PM
Monday

Before doing something as precipitous as replacing their engineers with AI, they might have had an extended trial to see if it would work.
As it is, it hasn't been proven that AI can replace critical thinking skills. Not to mention the decades of experience their human workers had.
I guess the dream of a worker free factory isn't much more than that; actually more of a nightmare.
Ford just paid a steep price for stupidity.

pat_k

(14,563 posts)
6. The hyped ROI will never materialize
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 05:30 PM
Monday

I've noticed more and more articles about AI failures are focused on "they just didn't do it right" as if the hyped ROI is possible if they get the right "leadership" or right "processes."

How long before the reality that AI is a risky proposition that has more downside than upside risk sinks in?

Seems to me reality is starring them in the face. Our entire economy is basically an all-in bet on AI and instead of backing off, they are doubling down.

July 2025
MIT Study finds that 95% of AI initiatives at companies fail to turn a profit
https://mlq.ai/media/quarterly_decks/v0.1_State_of_AI_in_Business_2025_Report.pdf

May 2026
81% of Enterprise Technology Leaders Report Production Failures from AI-Generated Code, New Research Shows
https://www.cloudbees.com/newsroom/enterprise-technology-leaders-report-production-failures-from-ai-generated-code





Fil1957

(978 posts)
8. Unfortunately, this is only temporary. Sooner or later AI will get good enough to replace the engineers permanently.
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 06:01 PM
Monday

paleotn

(23,106 posts)
10. And nuclear fusion will power our homes and warp drive will be a reality.
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 06:09 PM
Monday

Nope.

On edit... Commercial nuclear fusion has been "5 to 10 years away" since I had a full head of hair and was fresh out of undergrad. That's approaching half a century ago.

Fil1957

(978 posts)
23. This is not nuclear fusion. Nuclear fusion does not exist. AI does, and is already replacing people. Like any other
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 11:24 AM
Tuesday

technology, AI will become more capable. Over time it may become more capable slowly or quickly, but it will continue to improve.

As someone once said "the AI you have today will be the weakest you get, every future version will be stronger and more capable."

Random Boomer

(4,423 posts)
18. The gains are slowing down, not speeding up
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 08:07 AM
Tuesday

Each new iteration of AI is resulting in smaller gains, not larger ones. There are inherent limitations to what a Large Language Model can do, because it fundamentally lacks critical judgment.

As a tool, wielded by a person with knowledge of their field and an understanding of what AI can and can't do, AI really can be helpful. It increases the productivity of a good employee. Trying to replace that employee with AI is the fevered dream of CEOs, but it's a really poor executive decision.

hunter

(40,959 posts)
19. Nobody knows what intelligence is yet.
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 09:06 AM
Tuesday

This technology is a poor imitation.

If it's not already, it will soon be apparent that this is a dead end on the quest for an actual artificial intelligence.

Fil1957

(978 posts)
24. I don't agree. However if you were to replace the word "intelligence" with the word "consciosness", I would agree 100%
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 11:26 AM
Tuesday

with that statement.

hunter

(40,959 posts)
25. People frequently imitate intelligence...
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 01:00 AM
Yesterday

... running on autopilot regurgitating "facts" that may or may not be true, stuff they read on the internet or heard on some podcast, without any critical thinking involved. We've all done it.

Theodore Sturgeon, science fiction author and critic, said that "Ninety percent of everything is crap." This sounds about right to me.

When computers imitate intelligence it's all crap, nothing more than a regurgitation of facts, true or not, with no critical thinking involved.

Maj. Dude

(58 posts)
11. If you want...
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 06:14 PM
Monday

a steady mechanics job, work on Fords. It's steady enough until one gets burned out on fixing those POS.
I had to drive Ford fleet trucks for years because they were the cheapest bids that our local government people would buy.
We never had too many issues with the older GM & Dodge P/U's that got the award winning bids.
There is a reason that FoMoCo can claim 'best selling'. Cheap is cheap.

Delarage

(2,648 posts)
17. Maybe some newer ones....
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 07:57 AM
Tuesday

But my 2000 Ford truck keeps on keepin' on. No real issues. Plus, I have I know a young guy (engineering major now working for Amazon) who buys nothing but Ford trucks and Mustangs (he has a Mustang addiction). He buys beat up ones, rebuilds them, and sells them again. And I mean seriously beat up......

That being said.......I hope engineers start to build cars that are easier to work on. My almost 30-year-old vehicles are a joy to maintain (tune-ups, etc.) and can easily be done in the driveway. I look at my friends' new cars and almost nothing is easy.

I'd go extreme---make decorative access panels, etc. But you shouldn't have to take 5 things off to get to the one thing that will likely need service.

mdbl

(9,006 posts)
20. I foresee a day when AI purposely builds unsafe vehicles
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 09:22 AM
Tuesday

easy way to get rid of the biological organisms.

Bluetus

(3,361 posts)
21. AI does not think. It does not reason. It has no intelligence.
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 10:47 AM
Tuesday

It is just pattern matching. There are many applications where AI pattern matching is a powerful solution. But not areas that need reasoning.

Moreover, it is not a matter of getting bigger and faster chips or building more data centers. The very premise, the architectural foundation, of AI will not lead to reasoning, just faster pattern matching.

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