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BumRushDaShow

(165,791 posts)
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:04 PM 17 hrs ago

Donald Trump Says He'd Denaturalize US Citizens 'In a Heartbeat'

Source: Newsweek

Published Jan 08, 2026 at 02:07 PM EST updated Jan 08, 2026 at 02:57 PM EST


President Donald Trump said he'd be willing to denaturalize some United States citizens "in a heartbeat." The president's remarks came in a wide-ranging two-hour interview with The New York Times on Wednesday. He made the initial remark specifically referencing Somali-Americans.

“I would do it in a heartbeat if they were dishonest,” Trump told The Times. “I think that many of the people that came in from Somalia, they hate our country.”

However, he went on to say that such an effort would not be limited to Somalis, saying his administration is taking steps to pursue denaturalizations. “If they deserve to be stripped, I would, yes,” Trump said.

Why It Matters

The Trump administration has taken a tough stance on immigration, as the president promised, with efforts to revoke immigrants' legal statuses—such as Temporary Protected Status (TPS)—along with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) operations aimed at those in the country without legal status. Revoking citizenship is a far tougher route, with cases being relatively rare.

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-denaturalize-us-citizens-somali-immigration-11331811

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Donald Trump Says He'd Denaturalize US Citizens 'In a Heartbeat' (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 17 hrs ago OP
Hmmm, I don't think the orange turd can actually do that...He fancies himself to be a Greek God or something... wcmagumba 17 hrs ago #1
if he did it rampartd 16 hrs ago #8
DOn't be ridiculous. Nothing like that takes decades to get to the Supreme Court Wiz Imp 14 hrs ago #22
i respect the ability of trump's legal team to delay when convenient. rampartd 14 hrs ago #25
Trump is not omnipotent and you significantly overrate his ability to delay things. Wiz Imp 14 hrs ago #26
i am confident that alito can find a precedent for nearly anything rampartd 14 hrs ago #30
You haven't been paying attention. Wiz Imp 13 hrs ago #34
I'm sorry, (not really) but that is the most ridiculous post today so far, MarineCombatEngineer 14 hrs ago #31
I don't agree it would take decades...BUT angrychair 13 hrs ago #32
the law gets a few wins in lower courts rampartd 13 hrs ago #33
First and Most Ovious... homegirl 17 hrs ago #2
Him and his spawn first. marble falls 17 hrs ago #3
Trump thinks the people who "deserve it" are the POC folk Skittles 17 hrs ago #4
Legal analysis from Professor Vladeck on trump's ability to strip someone of their US Citizenship LetMyPeopleVote 17 hrs ago #5
This sick fuck wants to deport anyone who isn't MAGA. SamKnause 17 hrs ago #6
How the Supreme Court Rejected Denaturalization as a Political Weapon Long Ago LetMyPeopleVote 16 hrs ago #7
THANK YOU. ancianita 16 hrs ago #14
I appreciate the explanatory posts. Thank you. BadgerMom 14 hrs ago #23
Got in one creon 14 hrs ago #28
My Canadian-born wife has been telling me this is coming maxsolomon 16 hrs ago #9
It's an empty threat, primarily directed at non-whites and non-English speaking citizens FakeNoose 16 hrs ago #11
Like my immigrant who is neither white nor a native English speaker AZLD4Candidate 16 hrs ago #19
A part of me hopes he establish a precedent that will allow a sane president to exile bigots. unblock 16 hrs ago #10
That f..ker he'd do it in a heart beat if they were dishonest. All we get from him and his entire cabal is dishonesty PortTack 16 hrs ago #12
Trump like the racist he is, wants to ruin the lives of all MN Somalis over a few listed among many others in ONE ancianita 16 hrs ago #13
First that makes total sense, they hate America so they made it their home. You idiot. Buddyzbuddy 16 hrs ago #15
The rapist felon is renowned for his honesty dalton99a 16 hrs ago #16
So sez the Bavarian descended immigrant Evolve Dammit 16 hrs ago #17
Neah neah-neah neah neah, asshole, DinahMoeHum 16 hrs ago #18
So, if his heart doesn't beat it doesn't happen? patphil 16 hrs ago #20
Starting with his wife who overstayed her visa? raising2moredems 14 hrs ago #21
And deporting his Wife's children Seinan Sensei 8 hrs ago #40
Maybe Rebl2 14 hrs ago #24
No. creon 14 hrs ago #27
Please, please Codifer 14 hrs ago #29
Then denaturalize the children of Russian and Eastern European immigrants ChicagoTeamster 12 hrs ago #35
Silly rabbits, laws are for libs. DJ Synikus Makisimus 12 hrs ago #36
Trump's perfect judge... Roland Freisler Norrrm 11 hrs ago #37
The most timms139 11 hrs ago #38
Dishonest? iemanja 10 hrs ago #39
The 14th Amendment isn't optional Citizenship is a right, not a reward. AcanthaV 5 hrs ago #41

wcmagumba

(5,640 posts)
1. Hmmm, I don't think the orange turd can actually do that...He fancies himself to be a Greek God or something...
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:09 PM
17 hrs ago

The President is a total dumb ass.

rampartd

(3,810 posts)
8. if he did it
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:23 PM
16 hrs ago

how long would it take to get to the supreme court?

answer = decades, and then the outcome could be in trump's favor.

in the meantime we are denaturalized and deported, .

Wiz Imp

(8,994 posts)
22. DOn't be ridiculous. Nothing like that takes decades to get to the Supreme Court
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 08:40 PM
14 hrs ago

It would get there within a year.

rampartd

(3,810 posts)
25. i respect the ability of trump's legal team to delay when convenient.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 08:48 PM
14 hrs ago

and if i'm not settled in sudan or wherever they send me in a year , well, why would i come back if a lunatic might take power again and deport me all over?

Wiz Imp

(8,994 posts)
26. Trump is not omnipotent and you significantly overrate his ability to delay things.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 08:53 PM
14 hrs ago

If he tries to Denaturalize a citizen, some Federal judge will issue an immediate injunction which will prevent anyone's citizenship from being stripped until the Supreme Court hears the case - and they would rule against Trump (yes, even this court would never rule in his favor on this issue with long established precedent).

rampartd

(3,810 posts)
30. i am confident that alito can find a precedent for nearly anything
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 09:05 PM
14 hrs ago

and that if the attorney general writes a memo that will be given great "presumption of normalcy"

no, trump is not omnipotent, but, so far, he does not appear to be restrained by legal considerations.

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,730 posts)
31. I'm sorry, (not really) but that is the most ridiculous post today so far,
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 09:10 PM
14 hrs ago

nothing takes decades to get to the SCOTUS and, even if that were true, it would be a whole different ball of wax by then, Trumpedo and his MAGAt's would be just a footnote in the trash bin of history.

angrychair

(11,694 posts)
32. I don't agree it would take decades...BUT
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 09:42 PM
13 hrs ago

I do agree that he would win because the courts have essentially conceded omnipotent power to him and Congress has refused to do anything but talk a lot.
I truly believe at this point that he can, very literally, do anything he wants because even if the courts rule against him it's toothless because there is no way for the courts to enforce anything on him.

rampartd

(3,810 posts)
33. the law gets a few wins in lower courts
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 09:49 PM
13 hrs ago

but those judges will get very tired of the prank calls and pizza deliveries, the death threats and vandalism.

just to be overturned on the shadow docket.

homegirl

(1,926 posts)
2. First and Most Ovious...
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:10 PM
17 hrs ago

Melania, who lied and worked while in the USA on a tourist visa! And I will pay $100. to anyone who can provide her verified qualification for a "genius" visa entry!

Skittles

(169,584 posts)
4. Trump thinks the people who "deserve it" are the POC folk
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:12 PM
17 hrs ago

gold diggers like his fucking wife need not fear because Trump is a racist POS

LetMyPeopleVote

(174,963 posts)
5. Legal analysis from Professor Vladeck on trump's ability to strip someone of their US Citizenship
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:16 PM
17 hrs ago

Here is a good analysis of denaturalization. It would be almost impossible for trump to strip Rosie of her citizenship without a nasty lawsuit

With President Trump threatening to revoke Rosie O’Donnell’s citizenship, it seems like a good time to re-up my explainer on denaturalization and expatriation — and why what Trump is suggesting is … not viable:

Steve Vladeck (@stevevladeck.bsky.social) 2025-07-12T18:40:26.584Z

https://www.stevevladeck.com/p/146-denaturalization-and-expatriation

For good reasons, it is difficult to denaturalize a U.S. citizen and even harder to expatriate one. As this week’s “Long Read” documents, Congress has provided for only a handful of circumstances in which the executive branch is empowered to pursue such a move; and the Supreme Court has recognized meaningful constitutional limits (and an entitlement to meaningful judicial review) even in those cases. As we’re seeing so often with the current administration, there may well be a legal avenue for at least some of what it appears to want to accomplish, but that legal avenue has too much, you know, law, interposing both substantive limits and procedural requirements between the President and his policy preferences......

Historically, and for good reasons, it has been exceptionally difficult for the government to involuntarily revoke an American’s citizenship. 8 U.S.C. § 1481 identifies seven classes of activities that can subject citizens to a loss of citizenship:

(1) obtaining naturalization in a foreign state upon his own application or upon an application filed by a duly authorized agent, after having attained the age of eighteen years; or

(2) taking an oath or making an affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after having attained the age of eighteen years; or

(3) entering, or serving in, the armed forces of a foreign state if (A) such armed forces are engaged in hostilities against the United States, or (B) such persons serve as a commissioned or non-commissioned officer; or

(4)(A) accepting, serving in, or performing the duties of any office, post, or employment under the government of a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after attaining the age of eighteen years if he has or acquires the nationality of such foreign state; or (B) accepting, serving in, or performing the duties of any office, post, or employment under the government of a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after attaining the age of eighteen years for which office, post, or employment an oath, affirmation, or declaration of allegiance is required; or

(5) making a formal renunciation of nationality before a diplomatic or consular officer of the United States in a foreign state, in such form as may be prescribed by the Secretary of State; or

(6) making in the United States a formal written renunciation of nationality in such form as may be prescribed by, and before such officer as may be designated by, the Attorney General, whenever the United States shall be in a state of war and the Attorney General shall approve such renunciation as not contrary to the interests of national defense; or

(7) committing any act of treason against, or attempting by force to overthrow, or bearing arms against, the United States, violating or conspiring to violate any of the provisions of section 2383 of title 18, or willfully performing any act in violation of section 2385 of title 18, or violating section 2384 of title 18 by engaging in a conspiracy to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, if and when he is convicted thereof by a court martial or by a court of competent jurisdiction.


As should be clear from this list, most of the circumstances involve behavior in which an individual has manifested a specific and voluntary desire to surrender their citizenship—and not when citizenship has been revoked as a punishment. And even for subsection (a)(7), the one part that doesn’t seem to require that on its face, the statute today includes an umbrella condition—that loss of citizenship depends upon whether the individual “voluntarily perform[ed] any of the [specified] acts with the intention of relinquishing United States nationality.”......

Section 1481 applies to all U.S. citizens. For naturalized citizens (i.e., those who become citizens after birth), there’s one additional basis for revoking citizenship—and that’s if and only if their citizenship was “illegally procured or . . . procured by concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation.” Here, too, the statute (and, almost certainly, the Constitution) requires notice and meaningful judicial review before an American’s citizenship can be stripped. As 8 U.S.C. § 1451(b) mandates,

The party to whom was granted the naturalization alleged to have been illegally procured or procured by concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation shall, in any such proceedings under subsection (a) of this section, have sixty days’ personal notice, unless waived by such party, in which to make answers to the petition of the United States . . . .

Of course, the government can pursue denaturalization on broader grounds than it can pursue expatriation—since the Constitution doesn’t create a substantive right to naturalization in the same way it does for birthright citizenship. But the key is that here, too, the Supreme Court has regularly insisted not only on meaningful judicial review of denaturalization proceedings, but on construing the relevant statutes narrowly—including, most recently, in 2017. (For much more on the complexities of denaturalization, see this fantastic February 2020 “Practice Advisory” from the National Lawyers Guild and the Immigrant Legal Resource Center.)

In other words, although denaturalization is potentially available in more cases than expatriation, it still requires meaningful, individualized judicial review—review that holds the government to a significant burden in providing that an individual wrongfully obtained their citizenship, and not just that they engaged in questionable behavior thereafter. There is, simply, no easy, fast path to revoking any American’s citizenship without their consent—and there hasn’t been for decades. That may not stop the current administration from trying it anyway, or from removing citizens unlawfully and then resisting the legal consequences. But it’s important to be clear on what the actual legal authority for such maneuvers would be. Here, there isn’t any.

I was so sad to see Professor Vladeck leave the University of Texas Law School.

SamKnause

(14,694 posts)
6. This sick fuck wants to deport anyone who isn't MAGA.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:17 PM
17 hrs ago

He wants to denaturalize all of his enemies and deport us to gulags all over the world.

LetMyPeopleVote

(174,963 posts)
7. How the Supreme Court Rejected Denaturalization as a Political Weapon Long Ago
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:19 PM
16 hrs ago

Tonight, trump announced that he wants to revoke the citizenship of naturalized US citizens.



We are fortunate that the SCOTUS has addressed this issue


https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/how-supreme-court-rejected-denaturalization-political-weapon-long-ago

The Trump administration and its supporters have made numerous threats to revoke the citizenship of political foes who are naturalized citizens. But if the government tries to follow through, it will have an uphill legal battle.....

Under the law today, the government may seek denaturalization proceedings either when naturalization is obtained illegally or disqualifying facts on citizenship applications are concealed. But throughout much of the 20th century, it was much easier to achieve.....

A few years later, the Supreme Court warned against using denaturalization proceedings as a political weapon. “Ill-tempered expressions, extreme views, even the promotion of ideas which run counter to our American ideals, are not to be given disloyal connotations in absence of solid, convincing evidence that that is their significance,” the Court’s majority wrote. “Any other course would run counter to our traditions, and make denaturalization proceedings the ready instrument for political persecutions.

In 1967, the Court found that under the 14th Amendment, the government cannot forcibly deprive a naturalized American of citizenship without the citizen’s consent, except when citizenship is “unlawfully procured.”

In the succeeding decades, denaturalizations declined significantly. Between 1990 and 2017, the Justice Department filed an average of just 11 cases per year. Only during the Obama administration did they climb, when new technology allowed the government to search decades of data for indicators of possible fraud. In 2016, the yearly average rose to 15. During the first Trump administration, the program expanded, increasing the average to 25 per year.....

The second Trump administration is picking up where the last one left off, filing at least 25 cases in the first 10 months of 2025. Based on publicly available information, these cases are not obviously aimed at political viewpoints. But any attempt to use denaturalization as a political weapon will run into significant legal hurdles. The Supreme Court’s firmly established limits on the process are not only robust, but also deeply rooted in protections guaranteed by the 1st and 14th Amendments.

BadgerMom

(3,380 posts)
23. I appreciate the explanatory posts. Thank you.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 08:42 PM
14 hrs ago

That doesn’t stop me from raging about the “journalists” who ask these questions about unconstitutional actions. Why act as though he has the right to do this or that he can run again? Why legitimize his cruelty and selfish at all?

maxsolomon

(38,195 posts)
9. My Canadian-born wife has been telling me this is coming
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:24 PM
16 hrs ago

and her citizenship was in jeopardy. I said it wasn't: he's just full of shit.

Now,

FakeNoose

(40,191 posts)
11. It's an empty threat, primarily directed at non-whites and non-English speaking citizens
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:33 PM
16 hrs ago

He can get people scared but he can't follow through, because it's already been ruled on by SCOTUS.
I hate the MAGAs for voting Chump back into power, but even now, his authority is limited.

unblock

(55,926 posts)
10. A part of me hopes he establish a precedent that will allow a sane president to exile bigots.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:31 PM
16 hrs ago

PortTack

(35,815 posts)
12. That f..ker he'd do it in a heart beat if they were dishonest. All we get from him and his entire cabal is dishonesty
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:41 PM
16 hrs ago

ancianita

(42,900 posts)
13. Trump like the racist he is, wants to ruin the lives of all MN Somalis over a few listed among many others in ONE
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:43 PM
16 hrs ago

fraud case. He'll do that to every non-white demographic across this country next.

In political engagement, Somali Americans in Minnesota have become a significant political force, building community infrastructure, advocacy groups, and cultural centers since their arrival in the 1990s. The community has elected several members to local and state offices, including U.S. Representative Ilhan Omar, the first Somali American in Congress.

Economic analyses show that the community contributes significantly to the state's economy. One study cited an estimated $500 million in Somali income and $67 million annually in state and local taxes, with a total economic impact estimated at about $8 billion. Many arrived seeking job opportunities and found work in various industries, including meatpacking, using their social networks to establish themselves.

As for their citizenship, the overwhelming majority of Somalis in Minnesota are U.S. citizens or legal residents who went through legal refugee resettlement processes and background checks.

A significant controversy involves a large-scale fraud scheme where over $250 million in federal children's food aid was reportedly stolen by a small group of individuals, some of whom were Somali. This case has led to criticism and increased scrutiny of the community and state social service programs. And Trump/Noem attacks on MN.

Overall, many Minnesotans describe their Somali neighbors as "hardworking, family-oriented, deeply committed to Minnesota" people who are vital parts of their communities.

Buddyzbuddy

(2,130 posts)
15. First that makes total sense, they hate America so they made it their home. You idiot.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:49 PM
16 hrs ago

Second, nobody hates America as much as you, Miller, Musk, Ellison, Putin, MAGA'S, January sixer's, six Supreme Court Justices, Republicans, etc., etc., etc.. Which is the reason why you want to change the thing that makes us uniquely American, our diversity. And, why you treat our Constitution like one of your ex-wives.

ChicagoTeamster

(442 posts)
35. Then denaturalize the children of Russian and Eastern European immigrants
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 10:45 PM
12 hrs ago

We’re on the side of Western Europe. The others could be spies. What’s Trump’s reason for trying to ban people from the Middle East and Africa? Skin color? Religion?

Norrrm

(4,008 posts)
37. Trump's perfect judge... Roland Freisler
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 11:18 PM
11 hrs ago

Trump's perfect judge... Roland Freisler
Such a keen legal mind that he put into law that original citizenship could be revoked...
Start approx 1:53 on the timeline.
.

timms139

(484 posts)
38. The most
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 11:33 PM
11 hrs ago

dishonest man in the world going take someone else's citizenship for being dishonest. If that isn't fodder for SNL nothing is .

iemanja

(57,394 posts)
39. Dishonest?
Fri Jan 9, 2026, 12:23 AM
10 hrs ago

He’s the biggest liar and fraudster in the country. Trump needs to be deported to the motherland—Russia. He can go fuck himself with a tiki torch.

AcanthaV

(3 posts)
41. The 14th Amendment isn't optional Citizenship is a right, not a reward.
Fri Jan 9, 2026, 05:51 AM
5 hrs ago

This is a direct assault on the 14th Amendment. Citizenship isn't a subscription service that the President can cancel because he doesn't like your 'attitude' or where you came from. Once you are naturalized, you are an American, period. The idea of using denaturalization as a political tool is a slippery slope toward a two-tiered citizenship system.

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