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BumRushDaShow

(165,336 posts)
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:06 AM Yesterday

Putin says Russia will achieve its Ukraine aims by force if Kyiv doesn't want peace

Source: NBC News/Reuters

Dec. 28, 2025, 2:47 AM EST / Source: Reuters


MOSCOW — Russian President Vladimir Putin said Ukraine was in no hurry for peace and if it did not want to resolve their conflict peacefully, Moscow would accomplish all its goals by force.

Putin's remarks on Saturday, carried by state news agency TASS, followed a vast Russian drone and missile attack that prompted Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to say Russia was demonstrating its wish to continue the war while Kyiv wanted peace.

Zelenskyy is to meet U.S. President Donald Trump in Florida on Sunday to seek a resolution to the war Putin launched nearly four years ago with a full-scale invasion of Russia's smaller neighbour.

The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Putin's remarks.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/world/russia/putin-russia-ukraine-aims-force-kyiv-peace-rcna251193

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Putin says Russia will achieve its Ukraine aims by force if Kyiv doesn't want peace (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Yesterday OP
Holy shit! mikeysnot Yesterday #1
He grew up in the USSR. Igel Yesterday #3
EXACTLY what I thought... it's putin who does not want peace....fucker...nt mitch96 22 hrs ago #14
Pootie wants TOTAL SURRENDER and CONTROL. ProudMNDemocrat 13 hrs ago #23
"Or he will burn it all down."... That seems to be the ruzzian/soviet model. If I can't conquer the hearts and minds.. mitch96 51 min ago #25
Putin doesn't want peace. He wants Ukraine. Dulcinea 43 min ago #26
Oh, well, that will be a new direction. Hasn't this what he's been doing since Day 1? travelingthrulife Yesterday #2
Umm... when hasn't he done this? ananda Yesterday #4
Putin, Trump's idol, is a monster. He's lost 1.2 million soldiers so far, but doesn't care about them. surfered Yesterday #5
Putin's military and brutality hasn't been able to achieve his goals yet so what lets him think that will ... Botany Yesterday #6
In '62 we had a president with balls Submariner Yesterday #7
Putin's bitch. WestMichRad 15 hrs ago #22
Fuck Putin duckworth969 Yesterday #8
Sounds like Trump's logic of deserving a Nobel Peace Prize. Norrrm Yesterday #9
Yeah, Putie. Whatever. paleotn Yesterday #10
I feel like if they could achieve their goals by force, this 4-day-war would have been over 4 years ago. nt Gore1FL Yesterday #11
Putin is reaching his last straw popsdenver 22 hrs ago #12
Putin should remember that Russia also has reactors. The Madcap 22 hrs ago #15
Putin Speaks With Trump Ahead of Zelensky Meeting in Florida to, receive, I guess, his marching orders. Brother Buzz 22 hrs ago #13
What they been doing all along Historic NY 22 hrs ago #16
Putin doesn't want "peace"--he wants "a piece" or several pieces...Russian lebensraum Maeve 21 hrs ago #17
Dear Vlad BidenRocks 21 hrs ago #18
But Kiev wants peace through expelling Russian forces from their territory and getting security guarantees. ChicagoTeamster 21 hrs ago #19
Putin will achieve his ends in Ukraine by force alone no matter what. Any peace "deal" is just a ploy. Martin68 20 hrs ago #20
so far he is not having much success with his force nt msongs 17 hrs ago #21
How will he take Ukraine by force if he hasn't been able to do so in four years? Blumancru 13 hrs ago #24
Coming up on four years of this shit BeyondGeography 14 min ago #27

Igel

(37,313 posts)
3. He grew up in the USSR.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:17 AM
Yesterday

So, of course. Reality is what you get the media and rhetorical environment to say it is--it's entirely socially, if not socialistically, constructed.

Sometimes I wonder if his goal isn't to "engineer" the "human soul" to make it ready for what he had when he grew up, and get that ol' Marxist-Leninist "course of history" back "on track" in Russia: First socialism, and then the withering away of the state to produce communism. After all, one bit complaint in late-stage socialism was that it had to fail because the preconditions, the transition from capitalism, hadn't actually occurred in socialist Russia. In 1918 much of Russia was properly quasi-feudal, where all the efforts to 'liberate' the serfs hadn't really changed much on the ground: they had the same culture, the same attitudes, and very often little improved economic conditions (except to the extent they'd become urban 'proletariat').

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,575 posts)
23. Pootie wants TOTAL SURRENDER and CONTROL.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:11 PM
13 hrs ago

Or he will burn it all down.

TACO will stand down as told.

mitch96

(15,611 posts)
25. "Or he will burn it all down."... That seems to be the ruzzian/soviet model. If I can't conquer the hearts and minds..
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 10:50 AM
51 min ago

They burn it all down and start from scratch with all ruzzian citizens who they can control...
my thoughts...

Dulcinea

(9,623 posts)
26. Putin doesn't want peace. He wants Ukraine.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 10:57 AM
43 min ago

And Belarus, and all the other former Soviet republics under his control.

surfered

(11,257 posts)
5. Putin, Trump's idol, is a monster. He's lost 1.2 million soldiers so far, but doesn't care about them.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:31 AM
Yesterday

Like Trump, none of his offspring serve in the military.

While Ukraine targets Russia’s logistics and its war funding oil infrastructure, Putin targets Ukrainian apartment buildings.

Putin won’t give up. It’s all about his legacy, recreating the Russian Empire. The war will continue until the oligarchs throw him out a window.

Botany

(76,290 posts)
6. Putin's military and brutality hasn't been able to achieve his goals yet so what lets him think that will ...
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:33 AM
Yesterday

…. happen now? He invaded Donbas with help of an American traitor, Michael Flynn,
in 2014 annexed Crimea and his 2022 full scale invasion of the nation of Ukraine hasn’t
been successful. The war in Ukraine will end with one bullet and that will be one Putin’s
brain or a drone blast or his home or car exploding.

Trump’s siding with Russia over Ukraine has been and still is shameful.

Submariner

(13,238 posts)
7. In '62 we had a president with balls
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:40 AM
Yesterday

who outplayed Nikita Khrushchev when the Soviets made these kind of threats.

This time around, our president is a loser and Putin's bitch.

WestMichRad

(2,895 posts)
22. Putin's bitch.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 07:56 PM
15 hrs ago

Sums it up exactly.

I trust Zelenskyy isn’t gonna fall for any “compromise” that restricts Ukraine’s ability to defend themselves… cuz we know Russia will try again later if there’s a ceasefire at some point.

Gore1FL

(22,818 posts)
11. I feel like if they could achieve their goals by force, this 4-day-war would have been over 4 years ago. nt
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:14 AM
Yesterday

popsdenver

(1,465 posts)
12. Putin is reaching his last straw
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 12:43 PM
22 hrs ago

Ukraine is literally kicking his ass, destroying his military soldiers, his military planes and vehicles, etc etc etc

Ukraine just took years building a new sarcophagus, at great expense to cover the Chernobyl reactor, which is still melting down. Putin decided to launch a drone into it, punching a big hole in the sarcophagus, causing it to leak radiation once again......
It will cost a ton of money to repair the hole and damage to the interior.........as well as exposing the workers to outrageous amounts of Radiation.
I can only imagine, the closer Putin gets to losing, he will enable drones/rockets to attack Ukraine's other Nuclear Power plants.
AND, begin the use of Tactical Smaller Nuclear Weapons focused on certain areas of Ukraine, making those areas un-inhabitable for a thousand years or more.......

The thing that keeps me up at night is the thought of the world's nuclear arsenals, enough to destroy life on planet Earth a thousand times over, in the hands of RAGING NARCISSISTIC, SADISTIC PSYCHOPATHS THROUGH OUT THE WORLD........
North Korea, China, Russia, Israel, United States, etc etc etc.
Any of which, could launch missiles as an "ILL SHOW YOU.....IF I GO, YOU ALL WILL GO"

The Madcap

(1,700 posts)
15. Putin should remember that Russia also has reactors.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 01:30 PM
22 hrs ago

A few well-placed missiles close to Moscow ought to take care of it.

Of course, he doesn't care about the Russian people, so it probably wouldn't matter to him. Ukraine should leave every inch of territory stolen by the Russians as an uninhabitable desert. Let them gain nothing of use.

Brother Buzz

(39,538 posts)
13. Putin Speaks With Trump Ahead of Zelensky Meeting in Florida to, receive, I guess, his marching orders.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 12:54 PM
22 hrs ago

President Trump said he spoke by phone with President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia on Sunday, ahead of his meeting in the afternoon with President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine at Mar-a-Lago, where they will discuss a revised 20-point peace plan aimed at ending the war with Russia. Mr. Zelensky has acknowledged two major sticking points: the fate of the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine and control of a nuclear power plant occupied by Russia.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/12/28/us/trump-news-ukraine-zelensky

Maeve

(43,330 posts)
17. Putin doesn't want "peace"--he wants "a piece" or several pieces...Russian lebensraum
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 01:43 PM
21 hrs ago

For those who don't get the reference
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensraum

BidenRocks

(2,710 posts)
18. Dear Vlad
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 02:00 PM
21 hrs ago

Just a heads up that Ukraine is a nuclear nation again.
We bought a couple of nukes on Amazon.

Nice city, Moscow. It would be a shame ...

Now Get Out!

ChicagoTeamster

(400 posts)
19. But Kiev wants peace through expelling Russian forces from their territory and getting security guarantees.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 02:04 PM
21 hrs ago

Surrender no land!

Martin68

(26,971 posts)
20. Putin will achieve his ends in Ukraine by force alone no matter what. Any peace "deal" is just a ploy.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 03:38 PM
20 hrs ago

Blumancru

(190 posts)
24. How will he take Ukraine by force if he hasn't been able to do so in four years?
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:30 PM
13 hrs ago

I am a child of the 60s. I was brought up when we had air raid drills in school. We thought one day the Russians would bomb us.
Now it turns out we may have feared a paper tiger all along.
I think and hope that Ukraine drones him, or someone close to him does the job.
One wonders if Trump’s shenanigans in Venezuela are designed to disrupt oil production and distribution to make Russia’s oil worth more, to give Putin more money to wage his war.

BeyondGeography

(40,797 posts)
27. Coming up on four years of this shit
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 11:26 AM
14 min ago

What’s he waiting for, 35 million Ukrainians to realize they are actually Russian? What a big fat failure this has been for Putin and his fans.

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