Israel vows to hold Iran's leader accountable for "war crimes" after Iranian missile slams into hospital
Source: CBS
An Iranian missile slammed into the main hospital in southern Israel early Thursday, wounding several people, causing significant damage, and drawing a swift vow from Israeli leaders of intensified attacks on Iran's military and "government targets." Israel's defense chief accused Iran of war crimes and said its Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei would be held accountable.
Israeli media aired video of blown-out windows and heavy black smoke pouring from upper floors of the Soroka Medical Center, but a spokesperson for the facility said there were no serious injuries to patients or staff, as the part of the hospital that was hit directly had already been evacuated.
Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-iran-war-hospital-iranian-missile-soroka/
About 40 lighter injuries, though:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c994v4gm9jmt?post=asset%3A4add165c-8a47-4ce8-8ca1-1f37a798bf5e#post
The Iranians have claimed they had a military target:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c994v4gm9jmt?post=asset%3A65c21d6f-513f-48d6-becf-9c7645d2b454#post
But looking at a map, the Park and the medical centre are over a kilometre apart.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Gav-Yam+Negev+Advanced+Technologies+Park,+Be'er+Sheva,+Israel/@31.2643331,34.8039223,3035m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x150266fe950bcb77:0x5286988915632aa1!8m2!3d31.264334!4d34.814222!16s%2Fg%2F1ymshf7d8?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDYxNi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
If that's their accuracy, then really they were aiming at the city. The defence minister is claiming Khamenei targeted the hospital, and wants to assassinate him:
Speaking to journalists in Holon, near Tel Aviv, Israel Katz reportedly said: "Khamenei openly declares that he wants Israel destroyed, he personally gives the order to fire on hospitals.
"He considers the destruction of the state of Israel to be a goal...Such a man can no longer be allowed to exist."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c994v4gm9jmt?post=asset%3A062e5230-74c3-419e-ad84-58b1b0b29871#post

sop
(15,159 posts)patphil
(8,085 posts)There are literally hundreds of piles of rubble in Gaza to attest to Israel's war crimes.
These missile attacks between Israel and Iran are just the latest violent eruption of the 75+ year blood feud between Arabs and Jews.
As long as both sides believe a military solution is the way to peace, we will have war in the middle east.
ananda
(32,566 posts)And words fail.
Chasstev365
(5,716 posts)Why don't they just come our and say it: We don't consider Palestinians human beings.
claudette
(5,455 posts)how they feel
vanessa_ca
(298 posts)down to cartoons depicting Palestinians as cockroaches being stomped on by their oh so moral army.
Example

The cartoon depicts a blue boot with ‘IDF’ (Israeli Defence Forces) written on it crushing a Palestinian cockroach caricature, identified by the red, white, green and black colours of the Palestinian flag. Ostrovky prefaces the tweet with a single word, ‘This!’ The post has since been restricted for possibly violating Twitter’s rules on violent speech, and a community note has been attached to the post noting that the use of insect imagery is “textbook Nazi propaganda.”
“This disgusting ‘people as vermin’ rhetoric played a huge role in the propagation of antisemitism historically in Europe, and also in the lead-up to genocides elsewhere,” said Thomas Woodley, president of CJPME “CJPME points out the obvious and scandalous contradiction in Ostrovsky being invited as a speaker to an ‘antisemitism’ conference, when he is an overtly racist figure himself, engaging in just the type of dehumanization that Jews have faced historically. “The hypocrisy of CIJA in inviting this individual as a speaker at an anti-racism conference is mind-boggling, and is actually dangerous in the context of Israel’s use of mass violence and collective punishment directly targeting the civilian population of Gaza,” asserted Woodley.
https://www.cjpme.org/pr_2023_10_16
Reservist surgeon described taking part in military operations as a 'public health' matter in now deleted post on social media

An Israeli doctor serving as an army reservist has compared killing people in Gaza to “eliminating cockroaches” in a post on social media.
Writing on X on Sunday, Sabo Amos, who works as a surgeon in Israel’s public healthcare system, said he had volunteered to take part in “eliminations” after his battalion had killed “dozens of terrorists” the previous day.
Amos said he had requested to take part in operations “within the framework of preventative medicine”, but said another doctor had suggested his involvement was a matter of “public health”.
“On second thought, he’s right. After all, we’re talking about eliminating cockroaches and other loathsome insects,” Amos wrote in the now deleted post.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israeli-doctor-compared-killing-palestinians-gaza-eliminating-cockroaches
travelingthrulife
(2,862 posts)How many hospitals did Israel bomb in Gaza?
intrepidity
(8,332 posts)pwb
(12,310 posts)Oh wait that is different eh?
Response to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)
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ProudMNDemocrat
(19,853 posts)For all the devastation in Gaza done at your command!
stillcool
(34,385 posts)bode well for us.
LexVegas
(6,864 posts)JT45242
(3,481 posts)Seriously... Netanyahu and his cronies have no sense of shame.
mountain grammy
(27,989 posts)That’s interesting.
AloeVera
(3,243 posts)About 1.2 kms for the "circular error probable".
https://apnews.com/article/iran-ballistic-missiles-israel-retaliation-gaza-war-takeaways-9b577a3c3da0ee970f01b5e4f2aa20dc
The inaccuracy of their missiles is what allows Israel to claim Iran is targeting civilians.
Playing devil's advocate, why does Israel embed military objects in civilian infrastructure? The IDF headquarters is located in the middle of Tel Aviv! Do people living around it realize they are human shields?? The batteries and launching pads for the Iron Dome are sprinkled throughout cities and towns. Next to highrises and who knows, maybe even hospitals! As some here have said (incorrectly) that makes them "legitimate targets" yessirree!
The irony is rich, the hypocrisy pathetic.
Beastly Boy
(12,994 posts)Last edited Thu Jun 19, 2025, 06:39 PM - Edit history (3)
As per the AP analysis, the weapon chosen by Iran lacks accuracy to target anything other than objects larger than 1.2 km. That, by the nature of the chosen weapon, would exclude the IDF headquarters as their intended target. The target, at best, is a neighborhood in the city, by the virtue of imprecision of the weapon chosen by Iran, and Iran's intent, if any, to hit the military asset in question only manifested itself in having their fingers crossed. Of course Iran was targeting civilians!
Responding on behalf of the offended devil, the obvious elementary flaw of your argument lies in complete misrepresentation of the concept of human shields. Civilian presence outside of the grounds of an intended target, let alone their presence in the city where a military target is located, does not make those civilians human shields. Since Iran only hit civilians way outside the grounds of their purported target, and since Iran's weapon of choice precluded targeting any specific military asset, it is preposterous to suggest that there was presence of human shields in the IDF headquarters, just as it is preposterous to suggest that civilians outside of the military asset in question were in any way used as human shields to protect the target from attack.
I will leave the "the IDF headquarters is located in the middle of Tel Aviv! Do people living around it realize they are human shields??" without further comment. Its ludicrous premise is self-evident.
On a different note: I recall you declaring, on numerous occasions, your passionate advocacy for civilian victims of war everywhere, regardless of their circumstances. Your conspicuous absence of empathy for Israeli civilians, and your awkward excuses for Iran's attacks on Israeli civilians are contrary to your previously avowed moral principles.
What made you change your mind?
Eko
(9,441 posts)“This study supports emerging evidence that the Israeli military has disregarded the protection of hospitals, mandated by international humanitarian law, through the systematic pattern of dropping massive M-84 bombs close enough to hospitals to knowingly cause significant damage, injury, and death. The damage to hospitals due to these and other munitions will have immediate and long-term effects on the health of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip,” said Yara M. Asi, PhD, Assistant Professor at the University of Central Florida, Visiting Scientist at the FXB Center, and one of the authors of the study.
Using publicly available data from CNN and The New York Times satellite imagery investigations, the authors created a map of the Gaza Strip with the locations of craters formed by air-dropped 2000 lb bombs. They then overlaid this map with geospatial data from the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (UN-OCHA) and Open Street Map to measure the distances of these bomb craters to hospitals in the Gaza Strip. The 2000 lb bombs, made by the American arms manufacturer General Dynamic and Ordinance Tactical System, have a blast radius that can kill people 360 m away from the point of detonation and can cause severe injury and damage building infrastructure 800 m away. Data analysis showed at least one bomb crater within 800 m of 83% percent of the 36 hospitals in the Gaza Strip, and nine of those hospitals had 2000 lb bomb craters within 360 m. Most hospitals in Gaza had several bomb craters within dangerous proximity.
https://fxb.harvard.edu/2024/10/10/new-study-shows-israel-air-dropped-2000lb-bombs-within-lethal-and-damage-ranges-of-hospitals-in-gaza/
‘Not seen since Vietnam’: Israel dropped hundreds of 2,000-pound bombs on Gaza, analysis shows
The 2,000-pound bomb’s large 365-meter (about 1,198-ft) lethal fragmentation radius is evident in many videos reviewed by CNN, where several buildings are seen to have been flattened in a single strike.
On October 24, Israel struck a location less than 100 meters (about 328 ft) away from Wafa Hospital. In an interview with al-Jazeera almost immediately after the strike, the hospital’s director, Fouad Najm, said the attack had “terrified the patients and medics.” The hospital has since gone out of service because of sustained nearby strikes and fuel outages.
“Clearly the hospital is within the lethal fragmentation range of a 2,000-pound bomb. It would likely have caused damage,” said PAX’s Garlasco.
https://www.cnn.com/gaza-israel-big-bombs
No one, including Israel and Iran should be bombing civilian hospitals, schools or causing extreme civilian causalities.
Are you responding to my post or something entirely unrelated to it?
I will not even mention how flawed the methodology of the study you are citing is (a cursory reference to Wikipedia will immediately produce specs for the aforementioned munition inconsistent with those in the study). Garbage in, garbage out.
No, I will just chuckle at the complete absence of relevance of your reply to my post.
Have fun.
Eko
(9,441 posts)
Beastly Boy
(12,994 posts)Hence my refusal to engage.
Harvard and CNN have nothing to do with what I was talking about. Just because they can't get their facts straight is besides the point.
Eko
(9,441 posts)Beastly Boy
(12,994 posts)Likewise, I will not engage in a patently ridiculous pissing contest just because I can.
Good bye.
Prairie Gates
(5,650 posts)Autumn
(48,150 posts)RainCaster
(12,988 posts)A bit of hypocrisy here ...
claudette
(5,455 posts)As if Israel never bombed hospitals in Gaza. And now they call it a war crime because it’s done against them? Is the hypocrisy not evident to them? OMG
Mike 03
(18,542 posts)Latest Breaking News forum.
AloeVera
(3,243 posts)How awful. Who would bomb a hospital??
So barbaric.
moonshinegnomie
(3,511 posts)lock them all up on both sides
Lonestarblue
(12,802 posts)They have also prevented medical supplies reaching Gaza and killed medical staff clearly identified as such. Based on Netanyahu’s warped policies, Israel had every right to prevent another country from creating nuclear weapons, which means that every country in the Middle East could have rightfully bombed Israel years ago to prevent them from developing nuclear weapons. Ok for me, not for thee.
Deep State Witch
(11,996 posts)Okay - I have no love for the Iranian regime and am glad that someone is finally taking them to task - even if it is Bibi and TACO. But really? Crying war crimes after all that they did in Gaza? Pot, kettle, war criminals.
IrishBubbaLiberal
(2,561 posts)That’s typical
Israel BOMBINGS of numerous hospitals and heath clinics in Gaza,
Injuries in the 1,000s , and killing 100s and 100s and 100s in Gaza
Clouds Passing
(5,393 posts)
sarisataka
(21,800 posts)medical care. I have not heard Iran claim the IDF was using the hospital.
Hieronymus Phact
(626 posts)Maybe if Israel was using the hospital as human shields for their military command centers there would be more equivalency.
muriel_volestrangler
(104,093 posts)“Symbols of the regime are being blown up and collapsing, [including] the official state broadcaster and soon other such targets,” he said.
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-858123
He's on thin ice when he throws around accusations of "war crimes".
AloeVera
(3,243 posts)That has been planned for years. Regime-change and impoverishment of Iran as a country so the vultures of Western capitalism can swoop in and take its resources...and nuclear-armed Israel can have hegemony over the ME to pursue its Greater Israel project "in peace". That's how Israel defines "peace".
Iran would have had to be suicidal or really dumb to target that hospital. It didn't.
jrthin
(5,186 posts)Martin68
(26,146 posts)crimes." Unbelievable.
ILikePie92
(179 posts)If there's one thing Nutinyayhoo knows better than anyone it's how to commit war crimes.