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BumRushDaShow

(156,498 posts)
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 06:47 AM Jun 19

GOP eyes bailout for hospitals poised to go broke from Medicaid cuts

Source: Raw Story

June 18, 2025 8:06PM ET


Senate Republicans are now considering a new addition to their "big, beautiful bill" of tax cuts for President Donald Trump, Politico reported: a bailout fund for hospitals at risk of shuttering due to the bill's Medicaid cuts. The version of the bill passed by the House already cut $600 billion from Medicaid, in part by enacting new draconian work requirements and bans on people who fail to meet them from accessing Affordable Care Act subsidies.

But the Senate wants to go even further, slashing "provider taxes" states use to get fund-matching for the program — a move that rural hospital executives have warned could be devastating and leave many areas without medical providers at all. Even some pro-Trump senators are concerned this could hurt their states, but Republicans have a new idea to get them on board.

"Senate Majority Leader John Thune of South Dakota and Finance Chair Mike Crapo of Idaho are in talks with Sens. Susan Collins of Maine and Josh Hawley of Missouri, among others, over how to address their concerns that scaling back the provider tax, which many states use to fund their Medicaid programs, would negatively impact rural hospitals," wrote Jordain Carney and Robert King.

"One idea under discussion is to establish a fund for rural hospitals that would be impacted by the changes to the provider tax structure in the party-line domestic policy package, according to three people granted anonymity to discuss private negotiations." “I’m looking at whether there would be receptivity to a provider relief fund that would be aimed at rural hospitals, nursing homes and community health centers,” Collins said.

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/medicaid-hospitals/





I don't know WTF these miscreants thought the funding towards Medicaid was being used for. It's not a fucking "slush fund" like programs that the GOP sets up for themselves.
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GOP eyes bailout for hospitals poised to go broke from Medicaid cuts (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jun 19 OP
Bribing MAGAts to re-elect them. no_hypocrisy Jun 19 #1
Is it though? gab13by13 Jun 19 #3
What good is the hospital if the person no longer has Medicaid? mdbl Jun 19 #18
Yeah hildegaard28 Jun 19 #21
Republicans are so bad at business. travelingthrulife Jun 19 #27
keeping hospitals open, while unavailable to everyone due to insurance? rampartd Jun 19 #24
So this fund for rural hospitals gab13by13 Jun 19 #2
"I assume it will only be used in red states?" BumRushDaShow Jun 19 #7
A lot of that empty land doesn't vote. travelingthrulife Jun 19 #28
I know BumRushDaShow Jun 19 #39
Maybe I'm being overly simplistic, boonecreek Jun 19 #4
No, not overly simplistic . . . but it might displease President Enraged Baby Huey . . . hatrack Jun 19 #9
I totally agree, boonecreek. That's the first thing I thought of when I read this original post. wordstroken Jun 19 #15
And hildegaard28 Jun 19 #22
We have to be cruel and heartless first. Irish_Dem Jun 19 #35
The point is to kill off blue populations and bronxiteforever Jun 19 #37
But also remember BumRushDaShow Jun 19 #41
Tax us more to screw the poor. delisen Jun 19 #5
Wouldn't it be more efficient to just fund Medicaid so the hospitals can do their job? Eugene Jun 19 #6
I am on Medicare gab13by13 Jun 19 #10
That's logical, but......................... Lovie777 Jun 19 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author surfered Jun 19 #8
defunding enid602 Jun 19 #11
Uhhh bagimin Jun 19 #14
GOP Plans to fix problem they are about to create BOSSHOG Jun 19 #13
Hospitals nobody can afford to go to... Hugin Jun 19 #16
Another fix to a TSF generated problem. Just like billions to farmers sinkingfeeling Jun 19 #17
Mindless Fucks Canada Kid Jun 19 #19
Or they hildegaard28 Jun 19 #20
SO let me get this straight they are going to rob Peter to pay Paul............... turbinetree Jun 19 #23
Here's a thought. You wouldn't have to do a bailout if you would just leave Medicaid alone. Baitball Blogger Jun 19 #25
"Eyeing a bailout" after stealing medicaid money for oligarchs is one thing. Actually doing it is another. IF they do, ancianita Jun 19 #26
Correction bailout to the venture capitalist groups who are bankrupting those hospitals JT45242 Jun 19 #29
Turning a deliberative funding mechanism into a personal extortion racket Prairie Gates Jun 19 #30
Think about this. They want to offset the money they save from cutting people off.... JohnnyRingo Jun 19 #31
Blue states subsidizing red states is the plan Mysterian Jun 19 #32
Didn't really think that out did they? underpants Jun 19 #33
Jesus Christ no! JustAnotherGen Jun 19 #34
Oh, my god nowforever Jun 19 #36
Because not cutting Medicaid is just too simple sakabatou Jun 19 #38
anything that gives to red states stillcool Jun 19 #40
Stupid. Just like firing hundreds of essential federal personnel and then hiring them back. To save money? Martin68 Jun 19 #42
The rich don't need too many hospitals. They have boutique medicine. littlemissmartypants Jun 19 #43

gab13by13

(28,827 posts)
3. Is it though?
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 06:58 AM
Jun 19

It's money to keep rural hospitals open for rich people only. Who decides which rural hospitals get bailed out?

mdbl

(6,907 posts)
18. What good is the hospital if the person no longer has Medicaid?
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:23 AM
Jun 19

It will be a bunch of medics sitting around waiting for someone that can afford to pay.

hildegaard28

(583 posts)
21. Yeah
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:37 AM
Jun 19

Someone needs to tell these idiots that these organizations need a steady supply of income. A one -time bailout will not keep their doors open.

rampartd

(2,183 posts)
24. keeping hospitals open, while unavailable to everyone due to insurance?
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:51 AM
Jun 19

again, as you say, we subsidize the rich.

gab13by13

(28,827 posts)
2. So this fund for rural hospitals
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 06:56 AM
Jun 19

I assume it will only be used in red states?

Fuck these evil fuckers.

I said many years ago that one of the reasons that Republicans were opposed to single payer healthcare was because it would put poor people in line for healthcare ahead of rich people. That is one of the drawbacks for Canada's healthcare, it takes longer to see a doctor because poor people are in line.

BumRushDaShow

(156,498 posts)
7. "I assume it will only be used in red states?"
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 07:18 AM
Jun 19

ALOT of their voters like here in PA as you know, ARE in the "rural areas" - and that includes "blue" states like CA & NY.

All you have to do is look at a color-coded map of every state and their vote in the 2024 election. You see the "blue dots" (and/or county regions, which have the most population and majority (D)s) embedded in wide swaths of red, that the GOP keeps pointing to to claim that "they are the majority" although many of their red counties are barely the population of a blue city's single neighborhood.



This is their most-hated state of CA -



In CA, the cities are mostly clustered near the coast and much of the rest of the state (bar Sacramento & Fresno) is rural.

IL voted for Harris but -



NY voted for Harris but -

BumRushDaShow

(156,498 posts)
39. I know
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 10:06 AM
Jun 19

That is why this is in my sig (although it's way at the end and ends up on a hidden 2nd row ) -



But all those farms are located in those areas with his voters, they pushed back, he paused the order to round their workers up, and then rescinded the pause.

boonecreek

(1,130 posts)
4. Maybe I'm being overly simplistic,
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 07:01 AM
Jun 19

But wouldn't not doing the Medicaid cuts in the first place accomplish the same thing?

hatrack

(62,971 posts)
9. No, not overly simplistic . . . but it might displease President Enraged Baby Huey . . .
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 07:33 AM
Jun 19

So, they'll do the next best thing - an expensive band-aid to get them past the mid-terms.

Oh, and I see Josh Hawley has once again donned his Friend Of The Working Man Superhero Cape (tm).

wordstroken

(1,237 posts)
15. I totally agree, boonecreek. That's the first thing I thought of when I read this original post.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:03 AM
Jun 19


🦋 wordstroken

bronxiteforever

(10,615 posts)
37. The point is to kill off blue populations and
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 09:54 AM
Jun 19

exempt red populations. It’s easy once you assume evil motives on their part. Nobody hates Americans that live in cities more than red legislators.

BumRushDaShow

(156,498 posts)
41. But also remember
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 10:20 AM
Jun 19

that they concocted a fictional universe where a "blue state" was "all blue" and apparently contained no "red voters" or business owners in rural areas. So they are assuming that when they raid rural farms, they are hurting a "blue" owner but they're not.

delisen

(7,108 posts)
5. Tax us more to screw the poor.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 07:03 AM
Jun 19

The obvious sane policy is to keep Medicaid coverage for poor and disabled people thus also keeping hospitals open for all of us.

But Republicans want to tax us more for bailouts to keep hospitals open while denying medical care to poor and disabled people.


gab13by13

(28,827 posts)
10. I am on Medicare
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 07:34 AM
Jun 19

I needed a new knee. My wait time was 7 months to be operated on. Once they make Medicare into Medicare Advantage plans, I won't be allowed to have my 2nd knee replaced this will cut the wait time down for rich people who need knee replacement.

Removing poor people from getting healthcare takes them out of line and allows rich people to get faster treatment.

Wait times in the emergency room will be reduced for rich people, no poor people in line ahead of them.

Lovie777

(19,320 posts)
12. That's logical, but.........................
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 07:59 AM
Jun 19

GQP only concerns: 1. Money in their pockets.

2. Greed.

3. Power.

4. Control.

4. Wealthy.

5. Screw everyone else.

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

enid602

(9,494 posts)
11. defunding
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 07:53 AM
Jun 19

They’re partially re funding Medicaid to save rural hospitals, yet appear to be defunding FEMA. They advised this week that no Department of Transportation funds will be distributed to cities that had a ‘no kings’ protest, effectively defunding that agency as well. This is nuts.

BOSSHOG

(43,225 posts)
13. GOP Plans to fix problem they are about to create
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:00 AM
Jun 19

Groundhog Caucus. Mike Johnson saw his shadow today. Another 12 months of inane chaos.

Hugin

(36,553 posts)
16. Hospitals nobody can afford to go to...
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:17 AM
Jun 19

A self licking ice cream cone of perpetual bailouts. Yep, sounds like a Republican plan.

 

Canada Kid

(257 posts)
19. Mindless Fucks
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:28 AM
Jun 19

If you stupid MAGA morons had anything but shit for brains...you would have known that Medicaid was helping to run those hospitals!
DUHHH!!! Shortsighted stupidity is the new NORMAL for America

hildegaard28

(583 posts)
20. Or they
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:34 AM
Jun 19

Could just not cut Medicaid so they wouldn't need bailouts. How much do these morons think those bailouts would cost? More or less than the entire budget of Medicaid. Republicans are so stupid. They couldn't logic themselves out of a paper bag.

turbinetree

(26,342 posts)
23. SO let me get this straight they are going to rob Peter to pay Paul...............
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:48 AM
Jun 19

Collins will cave and so will Hawley and whoever else .........this is the same bunch that didn't have the balls to impeach a traitor not once but twice.............and a US Supreme Court 6 sitting crime ridden members giving the asshole immunity and lets not forget Citizens United that placed this country in the shit hole.............................

Baitball Blogger

(50,449 posts)
25. Here's a thought. You wouldn't have to do a bailout if you would just leave Medicaid alone.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 09:23 AM
Jun 19

I swear it would not surprise me if Republicans began to spoon food in through their rectum.

ancianita

(41,013 posts)
26. "Eyeing a bailout" after stealing medicaid money for oligarchs is one thing. Actually doing it is another. IF they do,
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 09:24 AM
Jun 19

they'll only bail out medicaid run places in red states, leaving the sick & old to die in blue states.

JT45242

(3,481 posts)
29. Correction bailout to the venture capitalist groups who are bankrupting those hospitals
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 09:30 AM
Jun 19

This is about protecting venture capitalist overlord donors and not hospitals.

JohnnyRingo

(20,045 posts)
31. Think about this. They want to offset the money they save from cutting people off....
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 09:32 AM
Jun 19

......health care by giving that money to "rural" hospitals that may suffer closure.
That will cover red state hospitals while still leaving blue urban facilities on their own.

That way they can maximize the impact on poor people (minorities) while leaving no fingerprints behind.

Mysterian

(5,766 posts)
32. Blue states subsidizing red states is the plan
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 09:33 AM
Jun 19

moving forward until blue states can do anything about it. Thanks to the archaic electoral college and undemocratric apportionment of senators.

nowforever

(551 posts)
36. Oh, my god
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 09:50 AM
Jun 19

You mean giving trillions to the rich and having it come out of the pockets of the poor is not good.

Martin68

(26,146 posts)
42. Stupid. Just like firing hundreds of essential federal personnel and then hiring them back. To save money?
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 12:09 PM
Jun 19

littlemissmartypants

(28,434 posts)
43. The rich don't need too many hospitals. They have boutique medicine.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 01:18 PM
Jun 19

And it's not just the hospitals. It's a domino effect.
Employees...
Vendors...
Local businesses...
Tax revenue...
Etc...

Hospitals are often the main employers in a population area. Bankrupt them and the entire town could fall.


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