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BumRushDaShow

(153,282 posts)
Mon May 12, 2025, 03:42 AM May 12

'Very bad idea': Republicans revolt over Trump scheme to get $400 million plane from Qatar

Source: Raw Story

May 11, 2025 3:43PM ET


ABC News on Sunday reported President Donald Trump is poised to accept “what may be the most valuable gift ever extended to the United States from a foreign government” — “a super luxury Boeing 747-8 jumbo jet from the royal family of Qatar” to be used “as the new Air Force One until shortly before he leaves office, at which time ownership of the plane will be transferred to the Trump presidential library foundation.”

According to ABC News, “the gift is expected to be announced next week” after “lawyers for the White House counsel's office and the Department of Justice drafted an analysis for Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth concluding that is legal for the Department of Defense to accept the aircraft as a gift and later turn it over to the Trump library.”

As AlterNet reported Sunday, the proposed gift — which aviation industry experts told ABC is estimated to value "about $400 million” — stunned Democrats and journalists alike. But, as news of the plane plan proliferated on social media Sunday, even some Republicans were concerned about conflicts of interest arising from the proposal.

“I’m sure the podcasters who are deeply alarmed by foreign influence will be all over this,” National Review editor Philip Klein wrote Sunday on X. “Call me a crazy RINO neocon, but I think it’s bad for the President of the United States to accept a $400 million ‘gift’ from an Islamist regime that funds terrorist organizations that murder Americans,” conservative writer and podcast host Ian Haworth argued. Conservative radio host Erick Erickson agreed.

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/trump-gop-bad-idea-qatar/



Took some time to sink in to the hypocritical GOP because IOKIYAR.

Article II

Section 1.

The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his office during the term of four years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same term, be elected, as follows:

(snip)

The President shall, at stated times, receive for his services, a compensation, which shall neither be increased nor diminished during the period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that period any other emolument from the United States, or any of them.

(snip)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleii
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'Very bad idea': Republicans revolt over Trump scheme to get $400 million plane from Qatar (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 12 OP
An impeachable violation of the Constitutuon. benfranklin1776 May 12 #1
Yes and thank you BumRushDaShow May 12 #15
I understand perfectly as the list of judges is quite long! benfranklin1776 May 12 #18
Grifters gonna grift Deminpenn May 12 #2
I've flown a simulator of a 747 Layzeebeaver May 12 #3
My very first (and only so far) flight on a 747 BumRushDaShow May 12 #4
When I lived in Europe COL Mustard May 12 #5
My very first plane trip was on a 707 from Philly to London back in 1970 BumRushDaShow May 12 #7
Cool swag! COL Mustard May 12 #22
The biggest, most beautiful, plane... forgotmylogin May 12 #16
LOL...the 747 can haul 500+ passengers while the Airbus is 180. Bengus81 May 12 #19
I'm sure they're very "concerned." But they won't tell him not to do it. Scrivener7 May 12 #6
There's A LOT of "back-tracking" going on at the moment BumRushDaShow May 12 #8
Sad that it's Qatar and not our own lawmakers. Scrivener7 May 12 #10
Revolt?!? ROFLMFAO!! You milque toast fuckers have done NOTHING to stop this NAZI Bengus81 May 12 #9
Finally took a ride in his Tesla and the doors wouldn't open when it caught fire. twodogsbarking May 12 #11
This is their bridge too far? live love laugh May 12 #12
But that's his bribe, silly me, not bribe but tip. republianmushroom May 12 #13
It's only a bad idea Mz Pip May 12 #14
Yes not a gift it's a bribe. Let's call it what it is Dem4life1970 May 12 #17
They'll cave to orangeina in 3...2...1... Clouds Passing May 12 #20
Expect a strong GQP kevinore May 12 #21

benfranklin1776

(6,867 posts)
1. An impeachable violation of the Constitutuon.
Mon May 12, 2025, 04:56 AM
May 12

Under the section you cite and also Article 1 Section 9 of the Constitution:

[N]o Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under [the United States], shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.


https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/full-text

It seems the framers damn well intended that a President could not sell himself and the country down the proverbial river to foreign kings and potentates given their bitter experience with Benedict Arnold. 🤬

Since it’s clear that Congress has the exclusive power to approve or disapprove of such naked gift bribery, tomorrow we need to introduce a bill expressly barring such a gift to Benedict Donold and put his Rethuglican enablers feet to the fire on whether they will approve such criminality. Toothless public statements of “disapproval” and “concern” are not enough. Make them prove it with a vote.

Moreover this appears to be criminally prosecutable as well if he pushes ahead with it, since receiving bribes is outside of the President’s “core powers”under Roberts own a-textual, gratuitous and BS immunity test 😡

BumRushDaShow

(153,282 posts)
15. Yes and thank you
Mon May 12, 2025, 12:37 PM
May 12

I also have the link saved in a text file with a previous post on this subject and what happened in the SCOTUS with his past emoluments infractions - https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=3178598

(didn't get chance to dig that up - have been multitasking doing judge research in between - completing my PA mail ballot to send in today! )

benfranklin1776

(6,867 posts)
18. I understand perfectly as the list of judges is quite long!
Mon May 12, 2025, 04:23 PM
May 12

And we really don’t know anything about them personally which is why the research is so important especially now as we need judges at all levels of government with the courage to maintain their fidelity to their oath to uphold our state and federal constitutions ✊🏼

Layzeebeaver

(1,950 posts)
3. I've flown a simulator of a 747
Mon May 12, 2025, 05:46 AM
May 12

a proper full emersion. actual cockpit with projection through the windscreen.

It was a pile of shite. like lifting weights for 30 minutes, thank heavens for the auto pilot functions.

later, we (my wife and I) flew the Airbus 320 simulator. OMG it was a sports car compared to the 747.

That said, he doesn't deserve it. Impeach him...

BumRushDaShow

(153,282 posts)
4. My very first (and only so far) flight on a 747
Mon May 12, 2025, 06:34 AM
May 12

(as most of my long hauls have been on wide-bodies like L-1011s or 767s) was to Cairo, Egypt on EgyptAir over 30 years ago. The flights within the country were all Airbus-manufactured planes.

What shocked me about it compared to the wide-bodies, was how LONG it was! Felt like it was a block long and couldn't see the rear of the plane from the front (plus of course the 2nd level, although that was always something promoted about them ).

COL Mustard

(7,390 posts)
5. When I lived in Europe
Mon May 12, 2025, 06:41 AM
May 12

The 747 was the go-to across the Atlantic. I flew to Germany a couple of times on an L-1011 but preferred a 747. The last time I flew on an L-1011 I was in the middle seat of a 3-6-3 arrangement. Not comfortable.

BumRushDaShow

(153,282 posts)
7. My very first plane trip was on a 707 from Philly to London back in 1970
Mon May 12, 2025, 07:05 AM
May 12

It was on the old Caledonian Airways. It was right around the time when they were merging with British United Airways but the planes still had the old logos.

I STILL have my flight bag from them (back when everyone got "free stuff" on flights)!!

Looks like this -



My first L-1011 flight was from Philly to Orlando (Disney World trip in 1975, a couple years after the park opened, then the 2nd leg a few days later was to Nassau, Bahamas). They were used by the now defunct Eastern Airlines (where you got more "free stuff" - some plastic "pilots' wings" ). That looked like this -

COL Mustard

(7,390 posts)
22. Cool swag!
Mon May 12, 2025, 08:12 PM
May 12

I wish the airlines still had stuff like that. It used to be an adventure to fly; now it's just a bus in the air.

forgotmylogin

(7,854 posts)
16. The biggest, most beautiful, plane...
Mon May 12, 2025, 02:02 PM
May 12

I bet it takes a whole lot of extra fuel to get that juggernaut up into the air so he can feel like he's in a penthouse palace while commuting to his golf course every weekend.

Bengus81

(8,846 posts)
19. LOL...the 747 can haul 500+ passengers while the Airbus is 180.
Mon May 12, 2025, 05:03 PM
May 12

Takes a bit more doing to pull that much weight into the air. 747's are what finally made flights to Hawaii and other places affordable. It's big and brutal and is why so many will still be carrying cargo for the next 20+ years.

BumRushDaShow

(153,282 posts)
8. There's A LOT of "back-tracking" going on at the moment
Mon May 12, 2025, 07:10 AM
May 12

notably by Qatar, who just created an outrageous mess.

It was probably supposed to be a "hush hush" thing and the child went blabbing all around about it as usual.

Bengus81

(8,846 posts)
9. Revolt?!? ROFLMFAO!! You milque toast fuckers have done NOTHING to stop this NAZI
Mon May 12, 2025, 07:21 AM
May 12

and you won't now. Oh my...is this supposed to be stronger than "concerned"??

twodogsbarking

(13,777 posts)
11. Finally took a ride in his Tesla and the doors wouldn't open when it caught fire.
Mon May 12, 2025, 08:26 AM
May 12

An orange smoke cloud indicated that the poop has died.

Mz Pip

(28,090 posts)
14. It's only a bad idea
Mon May 12, 2025, 11:48 AM
May 12

because it’s so blatant. All the behind the scenes grift is just fine with them.

kevinore

(71 posts)
21. Expect a strong GQP
Mon May 12, 2025, 07:10 PM
May 12

I envisage a couple of GQP representatives in safe seats talking about the possibility of an investigation. Followed an outcry from republican leadership. Then, after a few days of hand-wringing, there is finally enough evidence to show that Joe Biden was given an expensive gift, so it happens on both sides, so there is nothing to see here. After two weeks of smearing Biden, claiming that the Democrats have TDS, somebody will point out that Biden accepted the gifts on behalf of the American People. Afterward, Biden could buy it at fair market value, or it would be sent to the National Archives.

We sure did tell them!

Democratic politicians need to start speaking loudly.

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