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Polybius

(20,024 posts)
Thu May 8, 2025, 01:09 PM May 8

Biden Claims Harris Lost Because of Racism -- and Insists He Would Have Beaten Trump

Source: Mediaite

Former President Joe Biden admitted to The View panelists that he wasn’t surprised by Kamala Harris’s defeat at the hands of Donald Trump, but not because he didn’t think she was qualified.

The moment came as Biden visited the show Thursday, his first American TV appearance since leaving the White House in January. After Sarah Haines asked him if he was surprised Harris had lost, he shockingly said he wasn’t.

“I wasn’t surprised, not because I didn’t think she was qualified. She is. I was surprised because it went the sexist route. This is a woman, she’s this she did I’ve never seen quite a successful and consistent campaign undercutting the notion that a woman couldn’t run the country, and a woman of mixed race,” answered the ex-commander-in-chief.

Earlier in the show, Biden insisted that he could have beaten Trump if he remained in the election, saying Trump lost by “7 million fewer votes.”

Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/news/biden-claims-harris-lost-because-of-racism-and-insists-he-would-have-beaten-trump/

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Biden Claims Harris Lost Because of Racism -- and Insists He Would Have Beaten Trump (Original Post) Polybius May 8 OP
Denial is a very strong defense, difficult to overcome. Fiendish Thingy May 8 #1
Yes... Woodycall May 8 #15
Biden didn't say he was running again until April 2023 Seasider May 11 #22
His announcement, whenever he chose to make it, should have been to confirm he wasn't running Fiendish Thingy May 11 #23
She would have won had Musk not intervened. Autumn May 8 #2
Agreed obamanut2012 May 8 #4
Polls and prediction sites said otherwise though Polybius May 8 #9
Except Maye's boy couldn't manipulate asses to couches... Montauk6 May 8 #10
In his rambling interviews Trump has said twice, Elon rigged the election. Autumn May 8 #17
I suspect that President Joe would have lost Vogon_Glory May 8 #3
Agree. Between the cognitive decline stuff and inflation, he could not win. nt Blasphemer May 8 #7
Don't forget voter suppression. Same Old dog, Same Old Tricks, from the Jim Crow days until right now. usonian May 8 #5
If he stayed in, campaign opposition commercials would have continually highlighted his halting debate performance andym May 8 #6
Agreed. Ray Bruns May 8 #12
I think misogyny, Joe, not racism. malthaussen May 8 #8
Hillary beat Trump by several million popular votes in 2016. maddiemom May 8 #13
It was a combination of everything Tree Lady May 8 #11
Theiir act is getting old, though. We now know what to expect. Too bad it's too late for POTUS election ... CTyankee May 8 #14
Should have kept your word about being a bridge, Joe HereForTheParty May 8 #16
Yes Woodycall May 8 #18
Yep, he's hurting his legacy by repeating this constantly fujiyamasan May 9 #19
Totally agree Polybius May 9 #20
No one believes he would have won iemanja May 10 #21

Fiendish Thingy

(19,405 posts)
1. Denial is a very strong defense, difficult to overcome.
Thu May 8, 2025, 01:18 PM
May 8

Even for historic men like Joe Biden.

Still waiting for a modicum of self reflection on how things might have been different if he hadn’t run for a second term, and there had been a normal primary season.

Woodycall

(489 posts)
15. Yes...
Thu May 8, 2025, 08:49 PM
May 8

She is a fine, fine human being and I fought hard for her (in my little world anyway) but she was just not the unifying candidate we needed. He should have kept his word on serving only one term. I feel very bad for her. She was basically sent on a "Fool's Errand" at nearly the very last minute. That was just cruel...

Seasider

(208 posts)
22. Biden didn't say he was running again until April 2023
Sun May 11, 2025, 02:22 AM
May 11

There was ample time for any Democrat considering a run for President to at least put together Presidential exploratory committees but nobody did. Why? Probably because they didn’t want to run against Trump. Or the party leadership fully expected Biden to run for reelection and were prepared to back him.

We can rail on Biden all we want for going back on his word but its a little hard to be a transitional President when nobody is stepping forward to take the baton from you.

Fiendish Thingy

(19,405 posts)
23. His announcement, whenever he chose to make it, should have been to confirm he wasn't running
Sun May 11, 2025, 08:51 AM
May 11

Nobody could “step forward to take the baton” if Biden wasn’t offering it.

Anyone announcing their candidacy before Biden made his decicision (and there were a few) would be seen as effectively primarying a sitting president, and their presidential aspirations would be (and were) destroyed.

Polybius

(20,024 posts)
9. Polls and prediction sites said otherwise though
Thu May 8, 2025, 02:04 PM
May 8

The final Swing State polls all either showed Trump up, or down by no more than 1 point. Trump also always over-preforms. People tend to either forget or ignore that.

Montauk6

(9,116 posts)
10. Except Maye's boy couldn't manipulate asses to couches...
Thu May 8, 2025, 02:04 PM
May 8

What's the figure, 90 million?

Vogon_Glory

(9,855 posts)
3. I suspect that President Joe would have lost
Thu May 8, 2025, 01:26 PM
May 8

The cards were stacked against him. The corporate news media was in the tank for Donald John, and Trumpworld has assembled a superb propaganda network that the Democratic Party’s leadership still hasn’t learned to deal with.

As for Kamala, I think racism was a major factor in her losing, along with the indolence and complacency of those 2020 voters who sat on their backsides last autumn and the coco puff coo-coos who voted third party because the Democratic Party wouldn’t follow their agenda in exact detail.

usonian

(17,922 posts)
5. Don't forget voter suppression. Same Old dog, Same Old Tricks, from the Jim Crow days until right now.
Thu May 8, 2025, 01:41 PM
May 8
TRUMP LOST. Vote Suppression Won.
https://hartmannreport.com/p/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-c6f

‘The Most Extraordinary Attack on Voting Rights in American History’: How the SAVE Act Upends Over a Century and a Half of Protecting Voting
https://www.democracydocket.com/analysis/the-most-extraordinary-attack-on-voting-rights-in-american-history-how-the-save-act-upends-over-a-century-and-a-half-of-protecting-voting/

Voter suppression in the United States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States

When White Mobs in Red Shirts ‘Prevented’ Voter Fraud—With Guns, Knives and Violence
https://www.historynet.com/the-roots-of-voter-fraud-in-america/

andym

(5,970 posts)
6. If he stayed in, campaign opposition commercials would have continually highlighted his halting debate performance
Thu May 8, 2025, 01:44 PM
May 8

If he was his usual sharp self at the debate, he might very well have overcome the poor polling going in. After that debate, he had little choice but to take the action he did.

malthaussen

(18,095 posts)
8. I think misogyny, Joe, not racism.
Thu May 8, 2025, 02:00 PM
May 8

After all, we already elected a black fella. Emphasis on the "fella."

As to whether or not you would have won -- it's counter-factual, which means fallacious from the get-go.

-- Mal

maddiemom

(5,121 posts)
13. Hillary beat Trump by several million popular votes in 2016.
Thu May 8, 2025, 06:47 PM
May 8

Sen. Clinton was not a particularly beloved figure despite her superior qualifications. The Electoral College put Trump in office, however, not the popular vote. It took him three tries to win that. The 2024 election was more complicated, but misogyny can be overcome. The Electoral College is what needs to go first.

Tree Lady

(12,414 posts)
11. It was a combination of everything
Thu May 8, 2025, 02:12 PM
May 8

People have said here and influencers online and podcasts and social media.

It was a bunch of things and all added together created what we got. It will be tough to fight this even if he is horrible because they are great at spinning and gaslighting.

I have family members even though his stuff is affecting them staying with their beliefs.

CTyankee

(66,257 posts)
14. Theiir act is getting old, though. We now know what to expect. Too bad it's too late for POTUS election ...
Thu May 8, 2025, 08:18 PM
May 8

Woodycall

(489 posts)
18. Yes
Thu May 8, 2025, 09:25 PM
May 8

Nobody wants to blame "Good Ol' Likable Joe" but, in the cruel light of day, and in the final analysis, his poor, and perhaps selfish decision, brought us to where we are now. I think that's how history will view it.

fujiyamasan

(208 posts)
19. Yep, he's hurting his legacy by repeating this constantly
Fri May 9, 2025, 01:57 AM
May 9

It actually feels a bit insulting and gaslighting to be honest. I wish he had not taken the party’s relatively strong midterm performance as a sign that he should run again. Even then exit polls showed he shouldn’t.

Biden’s average approval rating at the end of his term was somewhere under 40%. That’s not something that would have won him reelection. He was trailing Trump in almost every poll even before the debate and the performance reinforced any negative preconceptions people had about his age.

Does any of this excuse the medias lack of coverage of trumps own obvious cognitive deterioration? Absolutely not, but this doesn’t change the fact that unfortunately, Biden at the time of the election, was a deeply unpopular president, in spite of being very effective.

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