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highplainsdem

(54,049 posts)
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 08:07 PM Wednesday

A Frustrated Trump Wants His New Air Force One Planes Pronto

Source: NYT

President Trump, furious about delays in delivering two new Air Force One jets, has empowered Elon Musk to explore drastic options to prod Boeing to move faster, including relaxing security clearance standards for some who work on the presidential planes.

His administration has even discussed whether a luxury jet could be acquired and refitted during the wait, according to five people with knowledge of the discussions who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe closely held deliberations.

-snip-

Boeing’s executives have indicated to the government that they might not be able to deliver the new Air Force Ones until the end of Mr. Trump’s second term. But Mr. Musk, who is known for setting aggressive — in some cases unachievable — deadlines at his companies, has insisted that at least one of the planes can be delivered within a year’s time.

Officials involved in the project — a complicated feat of engineering that requires the plane to be capable of evading certain missile attacks or surviving the fallout from a nuclear blast — regard Mr. Musk’s timeline as unrealistic.

-snip-

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/19/us/politics/trump-musk-air-force-one-boeing.html



According to the article, Trump has told people that if Musk "can fly a rocket" (NYT's wording, not a direct quote) then he "can probably figure out an airplane" (again, the NYT's wording, not a direct quote, but I wouldn't be surprised if one of their sources told them these were Trump's words).

Such genius. Both Musk and Trump.

If Musk does succeed in getting the plane's production rushed, it would be only fitting if he and Trump were alone on Trump's first flight. Musk as pilot. He "can probably figure out" how to become a pilot in a short time, if he doesn't already have a pilot's license. Trump could wear a pilot's uniform and pretend he's a pilot. It would be so much more awesome than Trump in a truck...and what a chapter in their bromance! I'd recommend a long first flight east, maybe to South Africa. Musk could keep Trump entertained with stories of his apartheid-loving pilot grandfather, and Trump could talk about his grandfather the brothel owner. It would be a flight for the ages, and they could probably sell film rights...
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A Frustrated Trump Wants His New Air Force One Planes Pronto (Original Post) highplainsdem Wednesday OP
WHAT?????????????? montanacowboy Wednesday #1
I'm sure it is fine to ship today Bluetus Wednesday #2
Today is a great day to ship BonnieJW Wednesday #13
Can it take off? Danascot Yesterday #23
I'll second that... Wuddles440 Wednesday #3
Give the man his planes! tanyev Wednesday #4
By all means...get it to him as quickly as possible! EarthFirst Wednesday #5
Can someone give him a rattle and a binkie? sakabatou Wednesday #6
He can just use the DENVERPOPS Wednesday #16
Git 'er done, me boys! JoseBalow Wednesday #7
Oh do it do it do it... Marie Marie Wednesday #8
Rush that plane! The way things are going so far truthisfreedom Wednesday #9
Faster, faster, skip a few things, won't matter. defacto7 Wednesday #10
If there was ever a time to take short cuts, it's now, Boeing. Buddyzbuddy Wednesday #11
PLEASE, GO FOR IT! orangecrush Wednesday #12
Please, Boeing. Move faster. LudwigPastorius Wednesday #14
Maybe they can take a few shortcuts. Turbineguy Wednesday #15
Come fly with me. usonian Yesterday #17
He wants Boeing the hurry up and slap something together? JohnnyRingo Yesterday #18
He's probably promised one of them to Putin! Nt Hope22 Yesterday #19
Just give him the plane "as is"!!! IzzaNuDay Yesterday #20
Just save money and skimp on some of the more vital safety features DFW Yesterday #21
Give them to him now liberalgunwilltravel Yesterday #22
The comvicted felon bdamomma Yesterday #24
Let him bdamomma Yesterday #25
Go for it. Get the new AF1s put together and out the door as fast as possible. Ocelot II Yesterday #26
Give himRFN malaise Yesterday #27
Put a rush on it!...Get it done quickly.... MiHale Yesterday #28
It will sport two right wings instead...... SergeStorms Yesterday #30
It may fly in circles...rather fitting. MiHale Yesterday #31
It would be a shame..... SergeStorms Yesterday #29
Some quick flying lessons and musk should be good to go! Omnipresent Yesterday #32
What's wrong with the plane he's got?? I thought they were into "cost cutting" to the point of mass firings Rhiannon12866 Yesterday #33
Trump bought two unsold civilian planes instead of new military spec ones... Historic NY Yesterday #34
What does he need a plane that big for? milestogo Yesterday #35
Penis envy Historic NY 23 hrs ago #38
Of course, if it's anything like the Cybertruck, it probably can't take off in the snow. SKKY Yesterday #36
Give him his plane, if there are any extra parts doc03 Yesterday #37
Faster.... FASTER!!!! Blue Owl 18 hrs ago #39

montanacowboy

(6,408 posts)
1. WHAT??????????????
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 08:11 PM
Wednesday

relax the security requirements, by all means proceed quickly!!!!
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Bluetus

(625 posts)
2. I'm sure it is fine to ship today
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 08:13 PM
Wednesday

Just to make sure, Elon should fire anybody involved in the project, particularly anybody holding up any safety testing results.

BonnieJW

(2,730 posts)
13. Today is a great day to ship
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 10:03 PM
Wednesday

A little super glue, some fishing line, and shipping tape and it's good to go.

Danascot

(4,962 posts)
23. Can it take off?
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 06:36 AM
Yesterday

Then it's good to go. Those other details will take care of themselves.

EarthFirst

(3,421 posts)
5. By all means...get it to him as quickly as possible!
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 08:20 PM
Wednesday

“I’m sure he can figure it out…” -works for me!

Safe travels!

DENVERPOPS

(10,838 posts)
16. He can just use the
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 11:58 PM
Wednesday

existing 747 AirForce planes..........

The real issue here, is that he spec'd the exterior paint job, and Biden cancelled it.......
Trump wanted three horizontal Red, White and Blue stripes...

(The same as the Russian Flag, just in a different order, so it wouldn't upset people for him being so obvious about who ordered him to do that.)

Marie Marie

(10,075 posts)
8. Oh do it do it do it...
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 08:37 PM
Wednesday

cut every cost, regulatory, safety and quality corner you can. Slap that bitch together with Elmer's and scotch tape. Let geriatric hamsters run the engines. Our King wants what he wants when he wants it and I say give it to him. Hee hee hee....

Buddyzbuddy

(356 posts)
11. If there was ever a time to take short cuts, it's now, Boeing.
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 09:13 PM
Wednesday

DOGE would want you to cut costs. Throw in a little gremlin while you're at it.

LudwigPastorius

(11,659 posts)
14. Please, Boeing. Move faster.
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 10:50 PM
Wednesday

...and if you forget to tighten a few bolts...well, that's a shame.

usonian

(15,934 posts)
17. Come fly with me.
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 01:11 AM
Yesterday

Crew hastily learns to fly, design, build and test airplanes in one day.



IT'S FULLY SELF-FLYING
NOTHING COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG


And no chance of gremlins on Mutring airplanes (MuskTrumpBoeing abbreviation)



Enjoy

JohnnyRingo

(19,666 posts)
18. He wants Boeing the hurry up and slap something together?
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 01:59 AM
Yesterday

Boeing?!
I don't see how this could go south. haha

DFW

(57,217 posts)
21. Just save money and skimp on some of the more vital safety features
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 05:11 AM
Yesterday

Make sure that it's just Trump, Musk, some of his cabinet, and a Russian crew on the first few test flights, and make them long ones to test endurance--polar route flights to Moscow and back, for example. Not that I wish anyone ill, of course, oh, no, nothing like that. But it's kind of an exclusive occasion, so only the inner circle should be along. Hegseth, Bondi, Rubio, Bobby Jr., Noem, Gabbard, and of course, his trusty VP and the House Speaker.

Trump appears to be in a really big hurry to get this done, so to hell with expensive, time consuming safety backups. Leave those for the next plane's "libbrul" CiC.

bdamomma

(67,367 posts)
24. The comvicted felon
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 06:51 AM
Yesterday

baby wants his toys. He's a convicted isn't he not supposed to fly outside the country?

Ocelot II

(123,008 posts)
26. Go for it. Get the new AF1s put together and out the door as fast as possible.
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 06:59 AM
Yesterday

There's no need for security clearances for anybody who works on them. And don't waste time on inspections; I'm sure they'll be just fine, and Trump and Musk should have the honor of taking delivery personally.

MiHale

(11,264 posts)
28. Put a rush on it!...Get it done quickly....
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 07:11 AM
Yesterday

No need to have employees with questionable security issues rejected if they’re willing to hurry up and get stuff done.
Paint it so it stands out in the sky, leaving no doubt who’s in that plane. Not one of those workers would leave a bolt loose or a wire crossed.

Will the plane have a left wing?

SergeStorms

(19,413 posts)
30. It will sport two right wings instead......
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 07:30 AM
Yesterday

since The Big Orange Fascist Pig has declared anything left of Hitler illegal.

SergeStorms

(19,413 posts)
29. It would be a shame.....
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 07:27 AM
Yesterday

if Boeing forgot some crucial parts in their haste to give His Assholiness his planes. Yep........a real shame.

Rhiannon12866

(228,298 posts)
33. What's wrong with the plane he's got?? I thought they were into "cost cutting" to the point of mass firings
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 08:03 AM
Yesterday

Historic NY

(38,465 posts)
34. Trump bought two unsold civilian planes instead of new military spec ones...
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 08:31 AM
Yesterday

747s are no longer produced. the last 747-8F freight variant was delivered in 2023

They need to be fitted with hardware and systems, for defense and avoidance of threats. An aerial refueling system. Thousands a miles of wiring. The Air force wasn't keen on the conversion, rather than bespoke, but dumbo wanted the biggest target he could get.

The current two took four years to outfit and complete. They were purpose built, these aren't.

SKKY

(12,387 posts)
36. Of course, if it's anything like the Cybertruck, it probably can't take off in the snow.
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 08:43 AM
Yesterday
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