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BumRushDaShow

(146,213 posts)
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 05:19 AM Yesterday

Johnson floats possibility of working with Democrats on debt ceiling

Source: The Hill

01/28/25 6:32 PM ET


DORAL, Fla. — Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) in a Tuesday interview with The Hill’s Emily Brooks floated the possibility of working with Democrats to raise the debt ceiling instead of including it in the GOP’s reconciliation package, which Republicans hope to pass in a party-line vote.

“No final decision yet, but part of the decision matrix is that we’re looking at the pros and cons of those various angles,” Johnson said when asked if he has decided how to handle the thorny issue. “I was originally thinking that we would include it in the reconciliation process, because that’s just a partisan exercise that doesn’t require Democrat votes.”

The conversation — which took place at Trump National Doral, where House GOP lawmakers are gathering for their annual retreat — came as House Republicans are staring down a high-stakes stretch of legislating, including advancing President Trump’s wish list of policies, funding the government by next month’s deadline and raising the debt limit this summer to avoid an economic default, all with the slimmest of majorities.

Johnson shifted from his initial plan of including the debt hike in the GOP’s reconciliation package because Senate Republicans didn’t think it would be possible to raise the debt ceiling on a GOP-only vote.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5112026-speaker-johnson-debt-ceiling-debate/

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Johnson floats possibility of working with Democrats on debt ceiling (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Yesterday OP
Good, this is what happens when Dems start to play hardball. Think. Again. Yesterday #1
No, it's what happens when Republicans can't get the votes iemanja 14 hrs ago #24
That's exactly what I meant, Dems starting to play hardball instead voting "yes" on anything. Think. Again. 13 hrs ago #31
Democrats must extract massive concessions. Bloody his fukn nose! OrlandoDem2 Yesterday #2
His idea for working with the Democrats probably involves stabbing them in the back. cstanleytech Yesterday #3
Yes, setting them up in some way. Irish_Dem Yesterday #4
It's all the Dems fault for not being willing to work with me! They're playing politics with your lives! SomewhereInTheMiddle Yesterday #5
Only if Dems allow themselves to be stabbed in the back Bengus81 Yesterday #8
I hope Democrats don't bail out Republicans again, let them destroy themselves. dem4decades Yesterday #6
Are all Democratic Senators and Representatives autistic? They sure act like it. LiberalArkie Yesterday #7
He's lying. AverageOldGuy Yesterday #9
He's a Republican dhol82 13 hrs ago #26
I hope they say no. nt Gore1FL Yesterday #10
Hakeem Jeffries better have a media strategy for his demands Prairie Gates 23 hrs ago #11
"the possibility of working with Democrats".....cute! Isn't that his fricking job? What a waste of a party. Firestorm49 23 hrs ago #12
Johnson can go fuck himself Ray Bruns 23 hrs ago #13
Oh Hell no SARose 23 hrs ago #14
F*ck him and the horse he rode in on. NotHardly 22 hrs ago #15
Johnson needs Democrats on debt ceiling HereForTheParty 22 hrs ago #16
They need to eat this debt ceiling. Even 1 Dem will make for a 'Dems vote to raise ceiling' headline Scalded Nun 22 hrs ago #17
now he has to samsingh 20 hrs ago #18
Rethugs' "working with" usually means "our way or else..." House Dems have no incentive to "fix" Johnson's problems. ancianita 16 hrs ago #19
Absolutely not!!! Bird Lady 15 hrs ago #20
If he's sincere, his caucus will probably oust him. DickKessler 15 hrs ago #21
Couple tax increases on billionaires Zorro 14 hrs ago #22
Who wants to bet he'll pull the rug out? sakabatou 14 hrs ago #23
People need to understand this is not an overture to Democrats iemanja 14 hrs ago #25
It's a trick JustAnotherGen 13 hrs ago #27
He's a floater alright, Klarkashton 13 hrs ago #28
Is that MAGA Mike's Trump-stumbled-out-of-the-gate move? bucolic_frolic 13 hrs ago #29
You have a majority. Right, Mike? But you don't want the credit for a debt hike? Norrrm 13 hrs ago #30
No Nasruddin 12 hrs ago #32

iemanja

(55,306 posts)
24. No, it's what happens when Republicans can't get the votes
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 07:24 PM
14 hrs ago

From the start he's needed Democratic votes to raise or eliminate the debt ceiling because his deficit hawks won't go along with it. This is bullshit. Democrats need to stand firm and refuse to vote for it.

Think. Again.

(20,767 posts)
31. That's exactly what I meant, Dems starting to play hardball instead voting "yes" on anything.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 08:14 PM
13 hrs ago
5. It's all the Dems fault for not being willing to work with me! They're playing politics with your lives!
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 06:25 AM
Yesterday

Last edited Thu Jan 30, 2025, 01:29 AM - Edit history (1)

Instant scapegoat. All he has to do is mention the possibility and he has us, in some people's eyes. And there's not much we can do to avoid the smear.

If we cooperate, we are weak and have no principles. If we don't, we are obstructionist and value party over people.

Ignore it and play our game. What is best for the people of the US? How can we use this to fight Trump's dictatorial moves?

LiberalArkie

(17,006 posts)
7. Are all Democratic Senators and Representatives autistic? They sure act like it.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 08:20 AM
Yesterday

Us autistics are totally invisible to others. The only time we are visible are when the typicals need something. A VOTE, An IDEA. And then we mystically become invisible.

The only way we ever become valuable to the typical is when we start saying NO. HELL NO. on everything they ask us to do.

NO MORE OF THIS BIPARTISAN bill crap, unless it is for one of our bills.

Firestorm49

(4,262 posts)
12. "the possibility of working with Democrats".....cute! Isn't that his fricking job? What a waste of a party.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:02 AM
23 hrs ago

SARose

(1,057 posts)
14. Oh Hell no
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:28 AM
23 hrs ago

Let them sink their own ship.

After yesterday, take McConnell’s playbook and run with it.

See ya in 2026.

HereForTheParty

(522 posts)
16. Johnson needs Democrats on debt ceiling
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:45 AM
22 hrs ago

is a better headline.

I'd hope for a very hard bargain but I'm not holding my breath.

Scalded Nun

(1,349 posts)
17. They need to eat this debt ceiling. Even 1 Dem will make for a 'Dems vote to raise ceiling' headline
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 11:03 AM
22 hrs ago

Everything bad resulting from raising that ceiling needs to be solely hung around the GOP's collective neck.

Just like everything bad going on now. The pain, chaos, etc., needs to be broadcast daily along with the reason why the country is going through it. The monsters need daily exposure.

ancianita

(39,260 posts)
19. Rethugs' "working with" usually means "our way or else..." House Dems have no incentive to "fix" Johnson's problems.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 05:03 PM
16 hrs ago

He'll never give them anything but what TCF wants. So no point in working TCF's middleman.

Bird Lady

(1,969 posts)
20. Absolutely not!!!
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 06:08 PM
15 hrs ago

Don't bail them out again! Let them eat their bs and show the people how they can't do the jobs they are so worried about keeping.

iemanja

(55,306 posts)
25. People need to understand this is not an overture to Democrats
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 07:27 PM
14 hrs ago

Johnson is only saying he'll work with Democrats because he doesn't have the votes in the GOP caucus. They can't raise or eliminate the debt ceiling without Democrats. The Ds need to say no because this is what Trump needs for his billionaire tax giveaway.

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