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BumRushDaShow

(137,794 posts)
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 06:49 AM Monday

U.S. Attorney Matthew Graves says that Jan. 6 has "probably the most recorded crimes in all of our history"

Source: CBS News

September 15, 2024 / 7:33 PM EDT


As the 2024 election nears, Matthew Graves, U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, remains focused on cases tied to the last time former President Donald Trump was on the ballot.

The Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol that disrupted the counting of the electoral votes triggered the largest prosecution in U.S. history. Trump has called the rioters "hostages" who've been treated unfairly and has said he's "inclined to pardon many of them." Top prosecutor Matthew Graves said the process has been "the picture of due process." "No one is being prosecuted for their views. They're being prosecuted for their acts," Graves said.

January 6 convictions

More than 1,000 Americans have been convicted in connection with the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol, with about 350 trials still pending and the FBI still searching for suspects. Just two people have been acquitted of all charges.

Graves explained the process of prosecuting the Jan. 6 rioters began the very next day under the Trump Justice Department. It set the standards for the prosecutions. Decisions were made by "career" prosecutors, who work at Justice for years regardless of who the president might be.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/prosecution-jan-6-capitol-riot-60-minutes/



Link to DOJ Capitol Breach Cases - https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases
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U.S. Attorney Matthew Graves says that Jan. 6 has "probably the most recorded crimes in all of our history" (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Monday OP
How much did J6 prosecutions cost the taxpayer? Irish_Dem Monday #1
Almost $3 million just dealing with the damage to the Capitol and injuries to the LEO alone BumRushDaShow Monday #2
Then pursuing the criminals who caused the damage. Irish_Dem Monday #3
And that cost is going to go on for some time BumRushDaShow Monday #4
The damage is incalculable. Irish_Dem Monday #5
Yup...just arrested that guy in Hawaii a few days back who was/is in the military.......n/t Bengus81 Monday #18
And that had to include shit removal...........n/t Bengus81 Monday #17
And the orange one still walks free. Hotler Monday #6
Blame the Judicial Branch BumRushDaShow Monday #7
And no elected politician that supported it has been charged republianmushroom Monday #8
"And no elected politician that supported it has been charged or even investigated," BumRushDaShow Monday #9
Hopefully it will all come to light, but, republianmushroom Monday #10
When those media folks lock onto the "First Amendment" BumRushDaShow Monday #12
I think you are correct, but, republianmushroom Monday #13
Haven't seen an un redacted Mueller report yet either. republianmushroom Monday #11
Since we have been suddenly hearing about "Russia" and "interference" again (the announcement about RT) BumRushDaShow Monday #14
That could be possible. republianmushroom Monday #15
I think they are still going to be uncovering stuff for YEARS BumRushDaShow Monday #16
With approximately 1000 convictions and another 350 cases pending, just for simplicity, round J6 up to 1500 cases. Now 24601 Monday #19

Irish_Dem

(55,577 posts)
1. How much did J6 prosecutions cost the taxpayer?
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 07:13 AM
Monday

And what crimes couldn't be prosecuted because of all the resources going to cleaning
up Trump crimes?

BumRushDaShow

(137,794 posts)
2. Almost $3 million just dealing with the damage to the Capitol and injuries to the LEO alone
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 08:28 AM
Monday


(both Scott McFarlane from CBS News and Ryan Reilly from NBC News, have had the J6 trials as their "beat" )

That would be on top of whatever extra was added to DOJ's budget the past couple years to handle the prosecutions.

Irish_Dem

(55,577 posts)
5. The damage is incalculable.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 09:31 AM
Monday

The amount of damage done and the cost to clean it all up.

Some of cannot be repaired.

BumRushDaShow

(137,794 posts)
9. "And no elected politician that supported it has been charged or even investigated,"
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 12:14 PM
Monday

They still have Scott Perry's phone. We haven't seen what Smith has from it, which is something that might finally get revealed once Chutkan gets going with this case again and/or when the below court order is completed (something I just stumbled on that happened this past June).

Federal judge orders texts, emails on Rep. Scott Perry's phone be turned over to prosecutors in 2020 election probe

By Robert Legare
Updated on: December 20, 2023 / 3:37 PM EST / CBS News


Washington — Thousands of communications — including text messages and emails — on the cellphone of Rep. Scott Perry of Pennsylvania can be turned over to federal investigators as part of the special counsel's 2020 election probe into former President Donald Trump and his allies, the chief judge of Washington, D.C.'s federal court ruled Tuesday, overriding the congressman's past claims of constitutional protection.

Chief U.S. District Judge John Boasberg wrote late Tuesday that prosecutors will be permitted to access 1,659 of the more than 2,000 records found on Perry's personal device, which was seized in August 2022. The data that could now be available to investigators includes communications between Perry and individuals not employed by the federal government "regarding what had occurred during the insurrection at the Capitol on January 6, 2021," and messages with then-employees of the Trump administration "regarding the procedures that Vice President Pence must follow under the Electoral Count Act," according to the court order.

Perry and his attorneys had urged federal judges to shield his communications from prosecutors, arguing the Speech and Debate clause of the Constitution protected his cellphone records from being used in an investigation. He contended his work as a federal legislator shielded the contents of his phone from being accessed because they were used as he carried out his congressional duties.

Boasberg's predecessor as chief judge, Judge Beryl Howell, initially ruled all but 164 of the records on the phone could be turned over to investigators.

The Pennsylvania Republican appealed the decision, and a three-judge panel on the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals sent the thousands of messages back to the lower courts for review under a stricter interpretation of the protections afforded to Perry under the Speech and Debate clause.


(snip)

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/federal-judge-orders-texts-emails-rep-scott-perry-phone-turned-prosecutors-2020-election-probe/


However what might need to be underscored with this data is whether it falls under the SCOTUS ruling about "official duties" of the President, although in this case, Perry is in the Legislative Branch which is *supposed to be* separate from the Executive Branch and shouldn't be considered part of "official duties" for something like this.

The last news so far was that a Judge ordered these files to be released (a DCCC press release) -

NEW: Court Orders Scott Perry’s Jan 6 Messages To Be Released

Friday, June 7, 2024


Scott Perry is starting to get nervous after a judge ordered his cell phone records — originally seized after Perry’s involvement in attempting to overturn the 2020 election — be released to the public.

Perry’s response? No comment.

Don’t forget: Scott Perry played a “direct role” in the deadly January 6th insurrection; he spread conspiratorial lies with no backing, attempted to invalidate millions of votes, worked to block the election’s certification in Pennsylvania, and much more.

Court filings have already proven Perry had “an extraordinary web of communications” with key figures in the insurrection, including direct contact with Trump officials who proposed deploying the military to overturn the election.

What else do we still not know about Perry’s subversive agenda behind the scenes?

DCCC Spokesperson Aidan Johnson:
“Scott Perry deserves to further be exposed for the traitorous extremist he is. Central Pennsylvanians have had enough with his lies.”

York Dispatch: Government shall unseal documents tied to Scott Perry cellphone warrant, judge orders
Mark Walters | June 7, 2024

  • The public is one step closer to seeing the contents of the warrant served on Republican U.S. Rep. Scott Perry for his cellphone as part of the Department of Justice’s Jan. 6 investigation.

  • A series of court rulings in April and May in the case where The York Dispatch and other Pennsylvania media outlets are seeking to have the government unseal the documents laid the ground for an eventual disclosure — subject to redactions.

  • The FBI seized Perry’s personal cellphone in August 2022, when federal authorities began exploring his role in attempts to overturn the 2020 election results, which included helping install an acting attorney general who would be receptive to former President Donald Trump’s lies about election fraud.

  • U.S. District Judge Jennifer P. Wilson ordered the government to submit the documents with proposed redactions by May 22 in the most recent public filing in the case that will be two years old in September.

  • The government filed the documents timely — and under seal — pursuant to both orders, according to the clerk’s office for the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Pennsylvania. They will not appear on the public docket sheet unless they’re unsealed by a judge. There is no estimate on when that will occur in this case, the office said.

  • Perry, whose communications director did not reply to a request for comment, said in 2022, before his last election, that the FBI’s cellphone seizure was a politically motivated attempt to influence the results of the election he ultimately won.

  • The Reporters’ Committee for the Freedom of the Press is representing The Dispatch, York Daily Record and PennLive in the case seeking to have the documents unsealed.

  • “We won’t expect to see what the ultimate scope of the redactions is until Judge Schwab rules on which ones she’s accepting and which ones she’s rejecting,” said Grayson Clary, attorney for the media outlets.

  • Legal counsel listed for Perry did not return a call or email seeking comment.

  • In a separate case, Perry was ordered in December to turn over more than 1,600 texts and emails to FBI agents investigating efforts to keep Trump in office after his 2020 election loss.

  • Perry previously chaired the House Freedom Caucus, an ultra-conservative group of Republican lawmakers known for their occasionally brazen legislative tactics.

  • He was appointed Wednesday to the U.S. House Intelligence Committee, a panel that receives sensitive classified briefings and oversees the work of America’s spy agencies.

  • A staunch Trump ally from Carroll Township, Perry is seeking a seventh term in Congress. His opponent is former WGAL TV anchor Janelle Stelson. Perry won his last two races in 2022 and 2020 with roughly 53% of the vote. In 2018, when the district’s lines were slightly different, Perry won with 51% of the vote.


  • ###


    A local PA newspaper (which is paywalled) had apparently gone to court with a few other PA news sites. One of them has their report here -

    Judge orders Scott Perry’s Jan. 6-related emails, text messages be released


    By Sean Kitchen
    June 10, 2024

    The York Dispatch reported on Friday that Congressman Scott Perry’s emails and text messages are one step closer to being released. It is up to a federal court to decide on unsealing the communications.

    Congressman Scott Perry’s (R-York) emails and text messages that were seized from his cell phone in August 2022 are one step closer to being released to the public, according to The York Dispatch. Perry, who played an important role in trying to overturn Pennsylvania’s 2020 election results, had his phone seized by the Federal Bureau of Investigation as part of the US Department of Justice’s investigation into the events leading up to Jan. 6, 2021.

    The York Dispatch, along with Pennlive and the York Daily Record, sued the federal government in October 2022 with the hopes of releasing Perry’s communications to the public, and the outlet reported last week that a series of rulings in April and May “laid the ground for eventual disclosure – subject to redactions.”

    Last month, US District Judge Jennifer P. Wilson ordered that the government submit documents with proposed redactions by May 22nd and will not be made public until they’re unsealed by a judge. Perry, who refused to comment on the original story, is facing his toughest reelection challenge since getting elected to the US House in 2014 and has spent over $300,000 in campaign funds keeping his communications private.

    A federal court temporarily unsealed documents containing some of Perry’s emails in an unrelated case last November and they offered a glimpse into Perry’s communications after the 2020 election through Jan. 6, 2020. The unsealed document shows that Perry initially introduced Sydney Powell, a conspiracy theorist who tried overturning the 2020 election, to Mark Meadows, former president Donald Trump’s former chief of staff.

    (snip)

    https://keystonenewsroom.com/2024/06/10/scott-perrys-emails-to-be-released/

    BumRushDaShow

    (137,794 posts)
    14. Since we have been suddenly hearing about "Russia" and "interference" again (the announcement about RT)
    Mon Sep 16, 2024, 12:54 PM
    Monday

    I wonder if some of what is in that report might end up part of Smith's case, and at this point, is being held close to the vest.

    U.S. accuses Russia of sophisticated influence campaigns against U.S. voters


    September 4, 2024 2:18 PM ET
    Heard on All Things Considered

    By Jude Joffe-Block, Shannon Bond


    (snip)

    The Justice Department required RT’s U.S. arm to register as a foreign agent in 2017, after US intelligence officials said it was involved in Russian attempts to interfere in the 2016 election.

    The bot farm used AI to create the fake profiles on X, formerly known as Twitter. The accounts posted support for Russia's war in Ukraine and other pro-Kremlin narratives. The effort and the AI software behind it were organized by an editor at RT, the Russian state-owned media outlet, the Justice Department alleged. The project was funded by the Kremlin and run by a Russian intelligence officer.

    (snip)

    https://www.npr.org/2024/09/04/nx-s1-5100329/us-russia-election-interference-bots-2024


    There was apparently money laundering going on now and probably back in 2017, so I wonder if there are some "unindicted co-conspirators" who could get an upgrade in the future!

    BumRushDaShow

    (137,794 posts)
    16. I think they are still going to be uncovering stuff for YEARS
    Mon Sep 16, 2024, 01:07 PM
    Monday

    It might depend on who does plea deals and when.

    ETA - here is a list of those unindicted (federal) co-conspirators - https://americanoversight.org/co-defendants-and-unindicted-co-conspirators-what-public-records-reveal-about-trump-allies-election-denial-activities/

    Most of them have actually been indicted in state cases in GA and/or AZ.

    24601

    (3,995 posts)
    19. With approximately 1000 convictions and another 350 cases pending, just for simplicity, round J6 up to 1500 cases. Now
    Mon Sep 16, 2024, 04:28 PM
    Monday

    compare that to 2977 murder victims on September 11, 2001`. Additionally, for every 9/11 murder charge, there could be lesser-included counts of attempted murder and hijacking.

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