Psychiatrist Says Trump Should Be Examined for Cognitive Illness After Disjointed Debate
Source: Daily Beast
Published Sep. 13, 2024 5:29AM EDT
A clinical psychiatrist at a leading medical school says if a patient presented with the rambling incoherence that former president Donald Trump showed in his widely panned debate performance earlier this week he would refer them for a rigorous neuropsychiatric evaluation.
Richard Friedman, a professor of clinical psychiatry and director of Weill Cornell Medical Colleges psychopharmacology clinic, wrote in The Atlantic Thursday that he watched Trump debate Vice President Kamala Harris with particular attention to candidates vocabulary, verbal and logical coherence, and ability to adapt to new topicsall signs of a healthy brain.
The Republican nominees brain did not win a vote of confidence from the professor. Donald Trumps expressions of those tendencies were alarming, he wrote. He displayed some striking, if familiar, patterns that are commonly seen among people in cognitive decline. As a key example, Friedman cited Trumps answerif it can be called thatto a question from moderator David Muir about if he has regrets over his behavior during the January 6 riots in 2021.
I have said blood bashbath. It was a different term, and it was a term that related to energy, because they have destroyed our energy business, said Trump, making virtually no sense. That was where bloodbath was. Also, on Charlottesville, that story has been, as you would say, debunked. Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity, Jesseall of these people, they covered it. If they go an extra sentence, they will see it was perfect. It was debunked in almost every newspaper. Friedman noted that, while its normal for politicians to evade questions, Trumps response went beyond evasion and essentially amounted to completely irrelevant babbling, an IRL Old Man Yells at Cloud meme.
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Link to "The Atlantic" article - Trumps Repetitive Speech Is a Bad Sign
( "The Atlantic" link - no paywall (gift))
GainesT1958
(4,525 posts)His actions as much as his words really did look like someone who is ready for long-term care...🤔
Dock_Yard
(91 posts)Inkey
(290 posts)They will have the holiday season to talk his ego down.
He doesn't know when to stop being him anymore.
The anger , rhetoric , and enablers are not making
him look any better for posterity .
pandr32
(11,961 posts)bif
(23,572 posts)Trump really does resemble the way my dad acted and spoke. It was painful to witness, believe me.
SupportSanity
(730 posts)The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dangerous_Case_of_Donald_Trump
The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump is a 2017 book edited by Bandy X. Lee, a forensic psychiatrist, containing essays from 27 psychiatrists, psychologists, and other mental health professionals describing the "clear and present danger" that US President Donald Trump's mental health poses to the "nation and individual well being".[1] A second edition updated and expanded the book with additional essays.[2] Lee maintains that the book remains strictly a public service, and all royalties were donated to the public good to remove any conflict of interest.[3]
Synopsis
The authors argue that Trump's mental health affects the mental health of the people of the United States and that he places the country at grave risk of involving it in a war and of undermining democracy itself due to his dangerous pathology.[4]
Consequently, the authors claim that Trump's presidency represents an emergency which not only allows but requires psychiatrists in the United States to raise alarms. While it has been repeatedly claimed that they have broken the American Psychiatric Association's Goldwater rule which states that it is unethical for psychiatrists to give professional opinions about public figures without examining them in person[5] the authors maintain that pointing out danger and calling for an evaluation is different from diagnosis. They have criticized the American Psychiatric Association for changing professional norms and standards, stating that it is dangerous to turn reasonable ethical guidelines into a gag rule under political pressure.[6][7]
BaronChocula
(2,142 posts)It's not like his affliction of verbal mishmash just suddenly appeared the other night. This is just like republicans who are just finding out now how dangerous this rapist is. One question: Where TF have you been?
elleng
(134,747 posts)Bunch of suckers/fools/idiots in this country.
I don't get this sudden attention to Trumps cognitive state. He's been disjointed, tangential, and associating loosely since Day 1. If he's any worse than he was in 2016 it's probably stress has he becomes more and more over his head. Now he could be looking at prison, plus he's been shot at couple of times. Nothing new here.
ck4829
(35,596 posts)PSPS
(14,016 posts)In an interview on NPR Morning Edition this morning, Linguist John McWhorter spoke with Steve Inskeep about Donald Trump's "weaving" style of speech.
Here's an excerpt:
INSKEEP: What did you make of that particular passage?
MCWHORTER: One, it displays that he's inside of his own head, where we have to work to understand why, suddenly, he's talking about tariffs. But then once you get that what he's saying is that we'll get so much money from tariffs that it'll take care of child care, there is a great deal of evidence that we would not make that much money from tariffs and that it wouldn't be a good thing for the individual taxpayer. And then, two, what you can see is that he doesn't know anything about the child care issue, and it's rather predictable that that sort of thing wouldn't interest him. But that passage alone is beautiful evidence, like a framed picture, of why he is unfit for office.
The entire piece is here:
https://www.npr.org/2024/09/13/nx-s1-5107714/breaking-down-former-president-donald-trumps-rambling-linguistic-style
BaronChocula
(2,142 posts)But I wondered if as a linguist he was qualified to also say as he did, he didn't believe it was cognitive decline.
Upon edit, here's what McWhorter said.
"I don't think it's dementia. I think that it's a more elemental problem with his nature, which perhaps has gotten worse as he's gotten older, but I think it's less a matter of his aging than the fact that he knows he can get away with it."
I do agree with that latter part.
BumRushDaShow
(137,794 posts)Even that kind of response is "sane-washing" the gobbledy gook that came out of his mouth as an answer to a simple question about childcare.
brush
(56,318 posts)Last edited Sat Sep 14, 2024, 02:38 AM - Edit history (1)
on to consumers...thus inflation creeps up.
Someone must've said this to him but his brain apparently can't comprehend it, or doesn't want to as he thinks it makes him look like he's gaming China to voters (not of course).
slightlv
(3,722 posts)as well as the "straight off the top" cut that T will demand.
3catwoman3
(25,019 posts)Thnx for this link.
FakeNoose
(34,738 posts)This time he had a worthy opponent who took no shit and threw it all back in his face.
But in every debate I've seen, Chump is screamy and angry, turning every question into lies and accusations against the opponent. That's how he avoids answering questions, it's all deflection.
He was that way against Hillary, against Joe Biden, and any journalists he doesn't like. I didn't see or hear anything new on Tuesday night.
SupportSanity
(730 posts)Ray Bruns
(4,400 posts)Donald.
Dont listen to these people. You won that debate bigly. You just keep talking about Haitians eating pets and electric boats. Youre the man!
elleng
(134,747 posts)brush
(56,318 posts)And maga t rethugs keep supporting him.
LymphocyteLover
(6,236 posts)Trump is not fit to be president, in any way, shape or form
patphil
(6,750 posts)It's an irreversible brain/drain that's slowly gathering speed and promises to leave him in a care facility for dementia.
You're going to see this accelerate as he gets more and more afraid of losing.
Panic is tightening it's grip on him.
They're going to try and hold him together for the next 7 weeks. I think it's going to be a race to the finish line. Will he collapse before November 5th?
I predict he will lose, and the implosion will be sudden and severe.
Demobrat
(9,606 posts)We probably wont, though. After the election there will be no more rallies or public appearances, and once the shouting is over there will be no more reason for anyone to pay any attention to him.
His court cases will be covered when something happens, but we wont be seeing him. Thank goodness.
My prediction is that Trump loses and by February 1st hes tossed into the trash bin of history where he belongs.
republianmushroom
(16,465 posts)ck4829
(35,596 posts)bucolic_frolic
(45,797 posts)I mean to say, the greatest brain ever, amiright?