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BumRushDaShow

(141,413 posts)
Thu Sep 12, 2024, 06:36 AM Sep 12

Homeland Security designates next Jan. 6 as a 'National Special Security Event'

Source: ABC News

September 11, 2024, 8:10 PM


The act of certifying the presidential election results will now be given the highest security designation the federal government makes available, the Department of Homeland Security announced Wednesday.

Jan. 6, 2025, will now be designated a National Special Security Event (NSSE) by the Department of Homeland Security – on par with events like the Democratic and Republican national conventions. This designation allows for "significant resources from the federal government, as well as from state and local partners, to be utilized in a comprehensive security plan," according to the agency.

“National Special Security Events are events of the highest national significance,” Eric Ranaghan, the special agent in charge of the U.S. Secret Service’s Dignitary Protective Division, said in a statement.

“The U.S. Secret Service, in collaboration with our federal, state, and local partners are committed to developing and implementing a comprehensive and integrated security plan to ensure the safety and security of this event and its participants.”

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/homeland-security-designates-jan-6-national-special-security/story?id=113605784

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Homeland Security designates next Jan. 6 as a 'National Special Security Event' (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Sep 12 OP
Cool, but how about.... Think. Again. Sep 12 #1
We're thinking alike... n/t slightlv Sep 12 #2
In all likelihood it's part of the plan. LiberalFighter Sep 12 #8
An actual plan instead of concepts of a plan bucolic_frolic Sep 12 #3
Thanks to Trump's MAGA cultists, this has become necessary. n/t werdna Sep 12 #4
I suspect there will be fewer MAGA terrorists next time IronLionZion Sep 12 #5
TSF not being president is major key making attempt more difficult LiberalFighter Sep 12 #10
Yup i'm not worried. I think it w fizzle same way as chicago wherea58p onetexan Sep 13 #31
Capitol Police not likely on good terms with Republicans LiberalFighter Sep 13 #35
It only takes a few acting orthoclad Sep 13 #36
It's about time hadEnuf Sep 12 #6
There may be fewer Linda ladeewolf Sep 12 #7
A bigger attempt would be difficult to hide LiberalFighter Sep 12 #11
If anyone were trying to track it. Think. Again. Sep 12 #12
It is being done. LiberalFighter Sep 12 #13
I hope so, we know that last time they attempted a violent coup, we also had plenty of warning.... Think. Again. Sep 12 #14
The person behind the attempted coup had control of the government LiberalFighter Sep 12 #16
And doesn't any more. Besides, there were many more than one person running that. Think. Again. Sep 12 #17
More eyes are open LiberalFighter Sep 12 #18
The only eyes that matter are the doj's eyes, which were deliberately closed last time,.... Think. Again. Sep 12 #19
You are limiting the range. LiberalFighter Sep 12 #20
Jan. 6 was talked about online and planned for months ahead of time... Think. Again. Sep 12 #22
Why would you think it won't be tracked? LiberalFighter Sep 12 #21
Because all the planning and online discussions from the rightwing radicals before Jan. 6 wasn't tracked? Think. Again. Sep 12 #23
They weren't trying. LiberalFighter Sep 12 #24
January 6 had been in the works for months... Think. Again. Sep 12 #25
This is good news mdbl Sep 12 #9
One deterrent the USAG can deploy for 6 Jan 2025 is the USMS SOG. C0RI0LANUS Sep 12 #15
Great to hear. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 12 #26
It seems they expect Trump to lose. C_U_L8R Sep 12 #27
I hope the 'troops" are loyal to POTUS & constitution Bobstandard Sep 12 #28
I wish they would have waited to release this plan closer to the election... Mark.b2 Sep 12 #29
I think some of the intent was for deterrence BumRushDaShow Sep 13 #32
Maybe an announcement in the days prior... Mark.b2 Sep 13 #33
By then, they probably would have announced putting up all the fencing and other barriers around the Capitol BumRushDaShow Sep 13 #34
All that for 'peaceful tourists'? keithbvadu2 Sep 12 #30

Think. Again.

(17,324 posts)
1. Cool, but how about....
Thu Sep 12, 2024, 06:40 AM
Sep 12

...doing some deterence work on the violence the rightwingers will be committing on our streets, too?

IronLionZion

(46,904 posts)
5. I suspect there will be fewer MAGA terrorists next time
Thu Sep 12, 2024, 09:31 AM
Sep 12

since many of them are still facing legal consequences and/or would chicken out. Plus TSF isn't president so he has no control over federal agencies this time.

It's always good to be prepared just in case.

onetexan

(13,885 posts)
31. Yup i'm not worried. I think it w fizzle same way as chicago wherea58p
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 01:07 AM
Sep 13

When they had anticipated 20 thousand+ & turned out a few thousand the first day.
Dems are in charge & many of the insurrectionist leaders are locked up or charged. They try it again they'll have their asses handed to them.

LiberalFighter

(53,441 posts)
35. Capitol Police not likely on good terms with Republicans
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 12:26 PM
Sep 13

Any Republican trying to provide tours like they did last time will be exposed.

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
36. It only takes a few acting
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 01:32 PM
Sep 13

in "asymmetric" tactics to cause chaos.

Look at the power station attacks over the last decade or so.

Probably not mob action this time. They won't "fight the last war". They have some master strategists and lots of money to back them.

I will be delighted to be wrong.

Linda ladeewolf

(335 posts)
7. There may be fewer
Thu Sep 12, 2024, 01:17 PM
Sep 12

Then again, I feel that this may be a last ditch effort on their part to re-take the white house. So I would be prepared for an even bigger attempt. This will be trumps final show, he will be desperate. So will many on the right. A loss this election will set them back by quite a few years.

LiberalFighter

(53,441 posts)
13. It is being done.
Thu Sep 12, 2024, 04:32 PM
Sep 12

They will see upticks in social media, transportation, hotel reservations, sales of firearms, and more.

Think. Again.

(17,324 posts)
14. I hope so, we know that last time they attempted a violent coup, we also had plenty of warning....
Thu Sep 12, 2024, 04:41 PM
Sep 12

...and a reasonable person would have expected all of their preparations to have been tracked, but no, nothing. We still haven't seen any of the planners, directors, facilitators, assistants, etc. As much as questioned, not even people that the whole world has seen on tape giving reconnaissance tours of the target location. Nothing. Just some trepassing charges to the pawns, that's it.

Think. Again.

(17,324 posts)
19. The only eyes that matter are the doj's eyes, which were deliberately closed last time,....
Thu Sep 12, 2024, 05:27 PM
Sep 12

..we can only hope that's different for some reason, this time.

LiberalFighter

(53,441 posts)
20. You are limiting the range.
Thu Sep 12, 2024, 07:18 PM
Sep 12

January was not expected to happen. There were no specific plans in place at the Capitol or the rally to handle it. They will not have a permit to be on the Ellipse after they lied about what they were going to do last time.

The Capitol Police won't tolerate it happening again. If there are any rioters they won't be able to get as close. There will be snipers in place.

I don't understand why you think it will be handled the same.

Think. Again.

(17,324 posts)
22. Jan. 6 was talked about online and planned for months ahead of time...
Thu Sep 12, 2024, 07:44 PM
Sep 12

...people came armed and ready, and that gallows wasn't just built in the spur of the moment from random trash lying around.

To say that January 6 wasn't expected by the people responsible for protecting the Capital is disengenous at best.

If doj wasn't watching rightwing radicals then, in the middle of their most public years, after multiple threats, rallies, violent protests, etc. why do think doj is watching them now?

LiberalFighter

(53,441 posts)
24. They weren't trying.
Thu Sep 12, 2024, 08:41 PM
Sep 12

And they didn't think the outcome would turn out the way it did.

And Trump didn't do anything to call out the law enforcement. Or tell the rioters to back off.

Think. Again.

(17,324 posts)
25. January 6 had been in the works for months...
Thu Sep 12, 2024, 09:09 PM
Sep 12

...boldly discussed on open rightwing forums by hundreds of thousands of magats.

Either it was all intentionally ignored by law enforcement and the doj, or we really don't have a Dept. of Homeland Security, or fbi, or doj at all.

mdbl

(5,428 posts)
9. This is good news
Thu Sep 12, 2024, 03:51 PM
Sep 12

and long overdue. Now it's time to get the word out to the election denying ninnies and their minions.

C0RI0LANUS

(1,253 posts)
15. One deterrent the USAG can deploy for 6 Jan 2025 is the USMS SOG.
Thu Sep 12, 2024, 04:52 PM
Sep 12

The US Marshal Service (USMS) maintains the Special Operations Group (SOG) which can respond to any national security or law-enforcement crisis in the US within six hours. The USAG is in charge of the USMS and can deploy the SOG for NSSEs. The USAG might consider deploying the SOG to Wash DC 48 hours before the electoral count at Capitol Hill.

Pres Kennedy deployed US Marshals in the South to protect students of color attending schools.









Source:

https://www.usmarshals.gov/what-we-do/tactical-operations

Bobstandard

(1,650 posts)
28. I hope the 'troops" are loyal to POTUS & constitution
Thu Sep 12, 2024, 09:51 PM
Sep 12

We’ve all seen the reporting. Right wing organizers are making concerted efforts to develop influence within the armed forces and various federal, state, and local law enforcement organizations. Remember all those highly trained kids they sent to Kuwait, Afghanistan, and all the other hot zones after Vietnam?

A lot of them returned home with one set of skills and nowhere and no reason to utilize them. Enter Trump and MAGA. In addition, targeted evangelical proselytizing in the Armed Forces, in particular, the Air Force has been intense and ongoing.

There are more Michael Flynn types in the military than we would like to admit. And don't get me started on the ‘constitutional sheriff’ bullshit which gives the aforementioned out-of-work denizens of the hot zones a place to be and to actualize and the color of law to do it…if the time comes.

Ive got my fingers crossed.

Mark.b2

(420 posts)
29. I wish they would have waited to release this plan closer to the election...
Thu Sep 12, 2024, 09:56 PM
Sep 12

but, maybe it means there is even bigger J6 news loaded in the barrel being saved for later! I’ve read and heard the plan is to publicize heretofore unreleased J6 info and to keep the trickle of new indictments coming. And even though, Jack Smith isnt going to get his trials going in time, hopefully, he can file the occasional motion and brief to keep those cses in the news. On a recent podcast I listened to said that either HBO or CBS was had gotten the hours of raw video from the cameras that were with Pelosi that day, and that the vast majority of it had not been made public. Maybe the “October surprise” will be in there!

J6 is our best weapon. I’m sure Harris has some outstanding strategizers who have been working on a great plan. I cant wait to see it play out!

BumRushDaShow

(141,413 posts)
32. I think some of the intent was for deterrence
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 05:57 AM
Sep 13

for those on-the-fence types who might act at the spur of the moment after fantasizing about joining a marauding mob. This might make some of them think twice. It won't stop the hardcore types but it can help to reduce the number of potential participants.

We have gone through 3 "January 6" anniversaries since the original event and there have been little or no incidents.

Mark.b2

(420 posts)
33. Maybe an announcement in the days prior...
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 09:52 AM
Sep 13

to Election Day, they can announce a planned deployment of the DC National Guard for 1-6-25. I think that would get some voters remembering and thinking as they go to the polls on 11-5.

We, as a country, have a lot of things we don’t need for the next four years, and a repeat of J6 is one of them. Anyone with a notion of heading to DC on 1-6-25 with ill intent needs as much disincentive as possible.

BumRushDaShow

(141,413 posts)
34. By then, they probably would have announced putting up all the fencing and other barriers around the Capitol
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 09:54 AM
Sep 13

like they have done in prior years, so it will definitely be "well known" what they are doing (at least in terms of "public-facing" physical security).

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