Georgia school shooting suspect Colt Gray's dad called him a 'sissy' & bought him AR-15 to toughen him up, relative says

[walznotwalls]

Source: NY Post

“He would call Colt names to his face,” says a relative of Colt’s mother, Marcee. “Names that no boy wants to hear: sissy, p—y, bitch… just names that were meant to break him down and emasculate him.”

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this dad is dumb as a rock. lock him up. GUN CONTROL NOW!

[Irish_Dem]

1. He killed children to impress his father and act out his rage.

Rage from being abused by his own dad.

[John1956PA]

7. As an aside, I'll ask your opinion on Colt's rocking motion.

Colt's non-stop rocking back and forth struck me. As reported by news sources last month, Thomas Crooks had a similar habit when he was in his school years:

Citing loved ones and ex-classmates, the FBI revealed Crooks "would routinely sway back and forth while standing at the bus stop."

[Irish_Dem]

9. Rocking back and forth:

It can be common in younger children as a self soothing behavior.

In older children it can be a sign of stress, a need to constantly self soothe.

Or a sign of a neurological disorder. Some sort of developmental disorder.

[LeftInTX]

72. Yes, I saw that in another video. Looks like a self sooth. It can continue into adulthood if they aren't aware of it.

I had a few habits. When I was in 8th grade, someone asked me, "Why are you saying, "ding-ding" all the time?"....
I responded, "I don't know". (I picked up the "ding-ding" from watching game shows).
Maybe I had a previous experience where the classmates said "ding-ding" when someone got the right answer? Anyway, I was going around saying "ding-ding", totally unaware that no one else was.
I was embarrassed and then I stopped.
I also clucked my tongue alot. I had alot of little things I did.
I had severe ADD

[LiberalArkie]

16. Stimming

[mahatmakanejeeves]

38. Bill Gates used to do that. And good morning. NT

[LiberalArkie]

53. I rock back and forth on my toes - from toe to heel when standing.

It is about the only time that I am ever coordinated.

[radical noodle]

28. I noticed his father rocking

in the courtroom. HE caused this, although Colt's mother's problems certainly would not have helped. My daughter teaches special needs (often emotionally disturbed) kids in a rural school and she sees families like this far too often. Dysfunctional family life is an epidemic in this country. Perhaps it's always been this way under the radar, but add the availability of guns to the mix and we're brewing a dysfunctional country.

[LeftInTX]

73. I've got chronic back. I rock.

[radical noodle]

78. I'm so sorry

Back problems can be so painful.

[rockbluff botanist]

31. His father rocked back and forth, too

At his court appearance, he was rocking and crying. Who's a sissy now?

[samnsara]

2. so the kid was actually shooting his dad when he shot the school....

that dad belongs in prison forever

[Baitball Blogger]

21. It would have been better for the world if he had shot his father.

In retrospect.

I wonder how many kids out there, who are suffering the same abuse, will reach the same conclusion, because in the end, they will probably get less jail time than Colt.

[BeyondGeography]

3. Some quality parenting right there

Way to go, pops. Throw away the key on your ass.

[Trenzalore]

4. The mother has an arrest record a mile long as well

Free will and all but this kid didn't have much of a chance

[Talitha]

58. "Doomed from the womb" as the saying goes...

[James48]

5. His name is Colt.

The Dad named him Colt.


How fitting.

[patphil]

56. Weird isn't it...actually kinda creepy,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_AR-15

[walznotwalls]

6. parents need to teach young learners how to become leaders...

...who in turn when they grow up teach their own young learners to lead!

[Wonder Why]

39. The problem is that it is easier to become a parent than to get a car license. No training required.

It's easier to sell your car and take public transportation than it is to get rid of your kids legally.

There are cops who try and keep your driving safe and sane, insurance requirements to protect the car and the people you may hurt or the damage when you do, and testing to see if you qualify, as well as laws that can result in your losing your right to drive (although all these are too weak). On the other hand, beating, bullying, starving, mistreating and failing to bring your child up right have supporters.

Unless you are unlucky or do something real bad, you can keep your license almost forever, but there are no laws that stop you from creating more children, no matter how bad the parenting other than when you are in prison.

Bringing up children is far more expensive, far more difficult, and far more a problem than owning a car. Cars have become more reliable but children seem to have more environmentally-caused issues than in the days before pollution was so bad.

The repugs want to force you to bear your child, even if there is a likelihood of medical problems discovered before birth. Then once you have it, they don't want to provide aid for it. On the other hand, they want to build more and better roads in lieu of public transportation to encourage you to drive.

[OldBaldy1701E]

63. Yep.

[Redleg]

8. Jeebus- I am rendered speechless

well, almost. The father's thinking is what passes for manhood these days.

[Traildogbob]

54. If only

Both would have followed Tuckum’s advice and just Tan their balls to be manly instead.
Have no idea the cost but a damn AR is over a thousand, and I know well ammo is close to over a dollar a bullet.
That’s a lot of tanning booth trips.
Fuck them both. We way too quickly forget about the wounded victims. Never hear about their debilitating injuries and bankrupting medical bills.
Any GQP cough up cash for the two injured and the MAGA ear shooting range?

[Redleg]

64. I forgot all about the ball tanning stuff

These weirdos have been weird for quite a long time now.

In re: to those victims of the shootings, the GOP has already moved past that to show more concern for cats and ducks.

[Traildogbob]

66. We have a large

Lake here in the county, very popular walking running completely around it. Rich Methodist own the big ass houses around the whole loop.
Because of the bread feeders the ducks are out of control. Nasty duck shit everywhere and the lake is entropically a toxic waste.
These folks here would pay big bucks to have the refugees come “Grab em by the neck” and feed their families. And the bread that gets thrown to em.
Kinda Jesusy like but instead of fish, those Christian’s could feed the refugee masses bread and ducks. Luke the BuyBull instructs.

[ck4829]

10. Under the jail. The era of "How was I supposed to know?" is over.

[GB_RN]

11. WTAF.

Some people should never be allowed to have kids. Seriously, you have to have a class and take an exam to get your driver’s license, but we let any ignorant fuckstick take on the biggest, greatest responsibility you can ever have, without proving you’re at least somewhat competent and not an abusive, sadistic, moronic, narcissistic, jackass.

[hadEnuf]

12. The right wing MAGATs are too busy trying to persecute same-sex parents for "warping their kids

into monsters", while promoting assholes like this mother and father as parents of the year.

[orleans]

42. where is that quote from? just wondering

because it seems that perfectly describes what is happening with these dads/parents who inadvertently turn their children into mass murderers -- "warping their kids into monsters"

[hadEnuf]

60. It's just something I came up with because it seems to fit.

[orleans]

79. it DOES fit -- it's perfect! nt

[Karma13612]

14. Being the child of a father who

Was not equipped to be an even handed dad, I agree.

Some people are not good at parenting at all. They carry violence, abuse and a broken history which permeates their own parenting. And the cycle continues.

I broke the cycle. I knew I would not be equipped emotionally and mentally to raise a well-adjusted child. So, no kids for me. I suffer lots of anxiety, bouts of depression and have even had thoughts about suicide. I know the signs and seek help when needed.

[GB_RN]

18. Damn.

No one should have to go through all that.

Glad you recognize when you need to see someone.too many people don’t, and end up in the morgue or on the ICU.

[Karma13612]

68. My two siblings and I

Scattered to the wind when we hit 18.

Each of us trying to piece together lives that make sense, no matter how dysfunctional they are.
We are still kicking.

Thank you for your sincere caring words, they are much appreciated.

[GB_RN]

69. You're Welcome.

As my favorite character on Star Trek would say, I hope that you all, “Live long and prosper.”

[MuseRider]

33. We had it from both sides. The

bringing down a child just disgusts me. My youngest brother, now in his late 60's has rarely held a job, a girlfriend or any friends. He goes through a violent life. I had to remove him from my life because he hit me for fun. My other brother had anger issues too but he found outlets and the most he would do was yell. I wish to every being that he was still living. I have anger issues as well but other than needing some quiet time I am making it. My husband knows when to just let me go work things out. I raised 2 wonderful kids without hitting of any kind or demeaning them. It takes a HUGE amount of work and effort. Someone in a family has to start the process. On my side it has stopped. Living with parents like that and pulling yourself out of the self hatred it causes is a very difficult thing. Dad must not have wanted to change and now his son is in big trouble. I doubt his Dad ever puts this together or tries to change.

[Karma13612]

70. I'm glad to hear

You pulled yourself away from the violence. We all are strong and should be proud of our efforts to try and lead calmer safer lives.

I’m also happy to see that there is less and less tolerance of corporal punishment and dysfunctional families. I’ve blamed myself for years that somehow it’s my fault that I’m broken.

I’ve found my old school records, and year books and class work. I was really pretty awesome despite the psychological mess that permeated my family life. I’m still awesome, despite being broken. And having gone thru some counseling, I know it wasn’t my fault. I’ve never achieved my full potential and am so insecure. But I enjoy as best I can.

Peace and happiness to you!

[MuseRider]

80. Oh so much here!

I have always been too shy to be social but at 70 I think I have found my place. LOL!

It is never gone but I found my spot and will hold it tightly. I may be insecure but no one would ever know that!

For me it is seeing that anger grow, feeling the tension of the clutching hand knowing that there is no way for them to ever hit you again.

It has been a long time. I wish my one remaining brother could have felt the relief of being over it but he never will. That anger is all he has left. It truly sucks for him.

Keep working it and never believe you deserved it. Hard to crack that but it can be done. Much love and support. We won!!

[Mr. Mustard 2023]

43. Your decision is one of...

...strength and compassion. Few people look at themselves critically, much less thoughtfully make life altering decisions, yet you have.

You are to be commended and applauded for remarkable emotional & psychological strength. It is rare.

I also chose not to have kids due to a drop dead drunk for a father and narcissist for a mother.

It sounds like your experiences were far worse than mine, and I know mine was confusing to say the least.

I decided I wanted my life as my own, after watching not just my parents' behavior, but all three of my older sisters have children at age 15, then struggled with no support from my parents. My sisters are now solid, good people with successful careers who succeeded despite nearly everything stacked against them.

Having children is not the magical experience told in fairy tales. At least not for some, and I have not regretted my decision at any time in my life.

I met my beloved, wonderful wife of 22 years and she was unable to have children due to medical reasons so we are a happy, loving, caring couple who volunteer, donate and love animals.

We currently have two cats.

So phuck off J.D. Vance, MAGA and "Good Christians" because we're happy. With that said my wife wanted children and a family more than anything else in her life and she couldn't have them. She's come to terms with it, but the "Christian God" decided my wife wasn't able to have kids, and now the MAGA are saying she's somehow "less than those with kids"?

Again PHUCK OFF Weirdo Vance.

Finally - again sir or madam - be proud of who you are and take a bow for being one of the few humans, it seems, who knows who you are and what is actually best for you, and not based on what you've been told.

[Karma13612]

67. Oh gosh, now my eyes are leaking!

We both are here to tell the tale.
We are both stronger because of working thru things and facing the hard facts of life.

Best wishes to you and your wonderful significant other and your cats!

[JT45242]

13. So bullied at home, he takes that weapon the father bought hum and releases the rage on surrogates at school rather ...

than the real object that he wanted to kill, his father.

I hope that they are both given sentences so long that they can NEVER pose a threat to society as a whole or another person. Maybe with a lot of therapy, the son could be rehabilitated, but the father is beyond hope..
Of course, that would mean real, genuine mental health care on prison, which the son is highly unlikely to get.

[area51]

15. Republican grooming. n/t

[Yavin4]

17. This is the kind of parenting that Trump and Vance want to bring back.n/t

[LiberalArkie]

19. Is this what is called "Grooming kids"?

[mzmolly]

20. Horrible. Why was this abuser raising that child?

😭

[IronLionZion]

22. Nothing manly about shooting up a school

This kind of abusive twisted thinking is way too common. Guns make it deadly.

[Shipwack]

25. Maybe shooting up the school was not the endgame.

Maybe what he really craved was suicide by cop.

[IronLionZion]

26. The worst way to commit suicide

[Shipwack]

29. No argument from me there... nt

[TBF]

32. Only 14 - IDK - more likely just an abused kid who didn't

know where to turn. Took it out on the school rather than shooting his dad or himself. I wonder if he even thought through the consequences at that age??

The mental illness is apparent with this case, but we could at least try to keep innocent bystanders from being hurt (killed) by limited access to assault weapons.

[Joe Cool]

23. How does a gun toughen someone up?

Shooting a gun is a very low effort and low skill activity. More calories are burned baking a pie and it takes more skill to do it.
The dad seems like a complete loser.

[70sEraVet]

24. There is a lot of that type of 'parenting' going on.

Dads insecurity about their own masculinity, worried that their sons' perceived femininity will reflect poorly back on the father.
The kid may well have had a chance to grow up decently and break that cycle -- but dad threw in the macho gun to make sure that never happened.

[womanofthehills]

41. Video - Colt deer hunting with dad

Link to tweet

?s=46

And another when authorities visit their house

Link to tweet

?s=46

[orleans]

45. i didn't watch the first video but the one with the cops

the kid is rocking, and near the end when the cop who is talking to him moves over to a different place on the porch it looks like the kid doesn't turn slightly to face the cop -- he's glued in position and talking while facing no one.

[Talitha]

61. I watched both videos.

The first one does contain footage that may be disturbing to some. Yes, it's about a Deer hunt but there's nothing visually gory or bloody. There are no 'action' shots - just talking beforehand, and the blurred carcass afterwards with the boy standing behind it.
The dad praises his son, but it's no more than what's said generation after generation. I live in Deer hunting country (northern WI) and it's very common to hear kids (boys and girls) being praised about their first kill. Neither of my sons ever hunted, although my husband did. They never asked to go with him, and he never pressured them to. Sure wish I had a dollar for every time I was out shopping and overheard someone say "Did 'ya git 'yer deer?" during and after hunting season. -sigh-
One more thing. The boy honestly doesn't look enthused about hunting. I've seen plenty of kids up here who get as excited before their first hunt as they got before their first trip to Disney World. I might be wrong, but to me it looks as though this boy was going along with things just to please the old man. It was expected of him, so he did it.

Regarding the audio on the second video, be careful if you're using ear buds. It's a bit hard to hear the officer talking to the dad, so you'll need to turn up the volume. But be aware that the officer filming the conversation has a radio that will suddenly blasts out, and he also speaks, which is really loud unless you keep fiddling with the volume.

[Botany]

27. His parents named him after a gun?

Poor kid never had a chance.

[Grins]

30. From the New York Post! So they would know....

One of the reasons I thought charging him as an adult so damn quickly was to exact revenge, not justice. From what I have read, this kid is seriously disturbed. (And so is his father.)

[Clouds Passing]

34. Mom and dad were the problem. I wonder how tough daddy feels now.

[orleans]

47. and how tough will he feel in prison with his upcoming life sentence?

maybe he'll look at things on the bright side: at least his kid will have to toughen up in prison so he won't have to be calling him demeaning names anymore

[Jason1961]

35. Gun Control

I had high hopes that Biden would be able to ram through some tough gun control measures that the next administration could take even further but I'm starting to think the MAGA Republicans in Congress like seeing stories like this

I really hope that Kamala will make gun control a huge priority, we can start with Universal Background Checks, registration, bans on assault rifles and the high capacity magazines (if you call it a clip some redneck will come along to fight you), and safe storage laws like they have in every other country

I don't hide that I'd rather see pretty much all guns banned except muskets, you know, the kind of guns that were around when the Constitution was drafted, but I know it's not politically viable...YET

One day this country will be free of 'gun culture' and the gun violence that comes with it, I just hope I'm still alive when it happens so I can wag my finger at NRA idiots

[Ray Bruns]

36. Of course he did, because that's what psychopaths do.

[Renew Deal]

40. I had a feeling that it was typical RW machismo ideology

[TommieMommy]

44. How horrible it must have been growing up in that abusive house

So very sad. The father should be locked up forever

[Silent Type]

46. Convict dad. Then go after gun industry that uses ads like the following to promote their lethal weapons.

The ad below is for the rifle used at Sandy Hook--

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[coffeenap]

49. It might also be

that the mom/wife was subject to abuse from dad/husband. Kid might have witnessed that, as well.

[Aristus]

50. Yeah; killing children. Real masculine.

Nice going, dickhead...

[thucythucy]

51. Thank God and the GOP that the both of them had easy access

to semi-automatic weapons.

Coz, you know, freedom!

[underpants]

52. God.

[Jim__]

55. Hopefully, Dad will have some time in prison to reflect on all this.

[RobinA]

59. Consider That Dad

was probably treated this way as well, so he probably doesn't think there should be a problem. These things rarely spring from the Earth unassisted.

[Mopar151]

57. I've seen this kind of "parenting" before.

A Karate instructor who "never pulled punches on his own kids" left behind a seriously screwed up generation of his family (plus a few neighbor kids), with LOTS of issues!

[onecaliberal]

62. So sad that people are dead because this prick fucked his kid up so badly.

[purr-rat beauty]

65. that POS is lucky to be alive

I would think that the abuse would have driven the kid to shoot dad first before going on a rampage as we have seen in other cases

I hope he is now buried under the prison.

[LeftInTX]

71. "Shooting sports" is considered "wholesome activity" by BSA and 4-H

At least that's how it was when I had kids. My husband and son did it with both. My son earned his Boy Scouts "shooting badge". He also did it with 4-H. This was in the late 90's. Hubby thinks it was before Columbine, but it was late 90's.

They did targets and hubby said they used 22's. Son didn't advance in either program, and stopped when he was around 12.

We did not have guns in the house.
They did learn gun safety etc.

I did not like it!!!


I don't know if they still have the badges and programs, because of all the school shootings. Or if they have modified their programs due to all the school shootings.

Yes, my son was one of those kids who was not doing well in traditional sports. (He would be sidelined in soccer and little league) Shooting is considered more of an "individual sport" as opposed to a "team sport".

[Mysterian]

74. This is how a gun nut destroys his family

without murdering them.

[twodogsbarking]

75. The weapon of self-destruction.

[Demovictory9]

77. Yep

[Lunabell]

76. Toxic masculinity on steroids.

Ladies and gentlemen, this is today's republican party.

[FakeNoose]

81. It sounds like the Dad is as guilty as his kid

... maybe even more so. It's like the Dad instigated the whole thing.

[Skittles]

82. gun humping coward

grooming his son to be a gun humping coward

[Aussie105]

83. How many more dysfunctional families are there out there?

Flying under the radar - until the shooting starts.

Then people go 'How did that happen? Didn't see that coming!'

Lost for words.

[Hassler]

84. Of course he's did