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BumRushDaShow

(141,413 posts)
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 09:05 AM Sep 9

Trump has lost $4 billion in Truth Social wipeout

Source: CNN Business

Published 5:30 AM EDT, Mon September 9, 2024


New York CNN — Former President Donald Trump’s social media company is in a deep slump that keeps getting worse, wiping out a huge chunk of his net worth.

Shares of Trump Media & Technology Group (DJT) dropped last week to their lowest level since the merger that brought the owner of Truth Social public this spring. Trump Media has lost about three-quarters (74%) of its value since peaking at $66.22 on March 27.

The selloff has erased significant amounts of wealth for investors — including Trump. Trump’s dominant stake of 114.75 million shares was valued at $6.2 billion on May 9. It’s now down to about $2 billion, a sharp drop that has knocked Trump off the Bloomberg Billionaires Index of the world’s 500 richest people.

The wipeout reinforces concerns raised by experts who have repeatedly warned that Trump Media’s multi-billion-dollar price tag defies logic. The company is losing money, generating very little revenue and Truth Social remains a relatively tiny player in social media. “If this wasn’t Trump, this thing would be trading at $1,” Matthew Tuttle, CEO of Tuttle Capital Management, told CNN in a phone interview.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/09/business/trump-stock-truth-social/index.html

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Trump has lost $4 billion in Truth Social wipeout (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Sep 9 OP
Awww....that's too bad. surfered Sep 9 #1
All a mirage in the first place! NCDem47 Sep 9 #2
Nope, but he thought he did William Seger Sep 9 #8
That is the central point. BobTheSubgenius Sep 9 #23
I keep thinking of the Billy Preston song, "Nothing from Nothing"... IthinkThereforeIAM Sep 9 #38
Oh, yes. ShazzieB Sep 9 #49
After November, maybe he can get a job... Think. Again. Sep 9 #3
Not with a felony conviction..... lastlib Sep 9 #12
That makes me happy! Think. Again. Sep 9 #13
It makes giggle! ShazzieB Sep 9 #50
Yeah, stamping out license plates. erronis Sep 9 #19
and the plates would say I WON PA, etc. Qutzupalotl Sep 9 #28
Greatest plates anyone has ever seen... rubbersole Sep 9 #29
Everything The Felon (R) touches meets a HELLISH fate BoRaGard Sep 9 #4
But,... but,... we need an astoundingly rich and highly,... magicarpet Sep 9 #5
So far. C_U_L8R Sep 9 #6
The marmalade shartcannon will convert his shares to 'Official Trump Digital Trading Cards' and clean up Brother Buzz Sep 9 #21
Or he can sell the stock certificates for wallpaper...... lastlib Sep 9 #37
He's really good at loosing money, a real genius. Dave Bowman Sep 9 #7
Just the best news one can hear on any random Monday am wolfie001 Sep 9 #9
Giving him another reason for running again. n/t callous taoboy Sep 9 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 9 #17
As soon as the polls close, he'll be fighting the results in courts across the country..... lastlib Sep 9 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 9 #53
I hope his MAGA supporters lost a lot too IronLionZion Sep 9 #11
He's down to $2 Billion ain't bad considering he didn't really put any money into the cruddy Truth Social. Silent Type Sep 9 #14
I swear, you're the one of the only ones who GETS IT. lostnfound Sep 9 #45
What you both said! lol n/t Cheezoholic Sep 9 #48
I agree and that's IF anyone buys his shares. Its sure to tank even more when he tries to cash out Cheezoholic Sep 9 #47
SELL, SELL, SELL BlueWavePsych Sep 9 #15
Luckily I never bought to begin with, so I can sit back and relax. Crowman2009 Sep 9 #25
AITAH LittleGirl Sep 9 #16
snickering? maybe..... lastlib Sep 9 #41
Since he never invested anything, he didn't actually lose $4 billion FakeNoose Sep 9 #18
Correct. Nt lostnfound Sep 9 #46
Man was on the verge of bankruptcy in 2016.... That presidency paid well for him anyway LizBeth Sep 9 #20
Wipeout/the Surfaris cbabe Sep 9 #22
Like Jeff Sessions and Giuliani, the MAGA cult who lost money are still going to kiss his orange ass. Crowman2009 Sep 9 #24
What I struggle with... purr-rat beauty Sep 9 #26
Trump didn't have 4B. Unless they want to pretend that shit socials imaginary worth was real. bullimiami Sep 9 #27
Hey, donnie... rubbersole Sep 9 #30
I doubt Trump put up 1 penny of his own money. Donny has always been about O.P.M. (other people's money) Botany Sep 9 #31
Elon Musk played him. Elon flattered him and brought him to X/Twitter, and in doing so, damaged Truth Social. Doodley Sep 9 #32
My hopes and prayers have been answered! Martin68 Sep 9 #33
Another one bites the dust. live love laugh Sep 9 #34
Everything he touches orangecrush Sep 9 #35
I don't feel sorry for that delusional con moron. He's ripped off so many. The karma train is heading his way TommieMommy Sep 9 #36
Trump come November pfitz59 Sep 9 #39
He and his circus performers really are just useful idiots. Torchlight Sep 9 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author ShazzieB Sep 9 #43
Everything Trump touches dies! ShazzieB Sep 9 #44
This whole thing will be investigated as a fraud. Klarkashton Sep 9 #51
Complete Bullshit Lede. Scruffy1 Sep 9 #52
And for those who are even entertaining getting into this stock...DON'T! Earnings potential is in the basement SWBTATTReg Sep 9 #54
Question for those who do investing 3825-87867 Sep 9 #55
I think I can sum it up. twodogsbarking Sep 9 #56
How can you lose something you never had? maxrandb Sep 9 #57
"If this wasn't Trump, this thing would be trading at $1"... SeattleVet Sep 9 #58

William Seger

(11,020 posts)
8. Nope, but he thought he did
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 09:22 AM
Sep 9

Trump thinks the stock market creates wealth. Nope, it's a place where wealth is traded, so what's really being lost is credibility as an investment.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,774 posts)
23. That is the central point.
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 10:58 AM
Sep 9

This "wealth" was all air to begin with, and now it's going to have the remaining air sucked out of it.

Won't be soon enough for me, and it couldn't happen to a worse, more deserving 'person.'

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,112 posts)
38. I keep thinking of the Billy Preston song, "Nothing from Nothing"...
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 12:01 PM
Sep 9

... so when I see the headlines, "TSF loses another billion with Truth Social". Did he ever actually buy into it?

ShazzieB

(18,524 posts)
49. Oh, yes.
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 12:20 PM
Sep 9

He bought into it bigly!

The selloff has erased significant amounts of wealth for investors — including Trump. Trump’s dominant stake of 114.75 million shares was valued at $6.2 billion on May 9. It’s now down to about $2 billion, a sharp drop that has knocked Trump off the Bloomberg Billionaires Index of the world’s 500 richest people.

lastlib

(24,801 posts)
12. Not with a felony conviction.....
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 09:44 AM
Sep 9

It's an absolute bar to working in the securities industry. I had to fire a guy who tried to conceal a conviction. It came out on a background check.

He's more likely to get a job washing dishes in Club Fed.

ShazzieB

(18,524 posts)
50. It makes giggle!
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 12:30 PM
Sep 9

He's probably never washed a dish in his life. They'd have to teach him from scratch!

Of course, they probably use commercial dishwashers in those places. His job might just be to scrap all the yucky leftovers into the garbage disposal and load the dishes into the machine. Either way, the thought is pretty funny.

rubbersole

(8,419 posts)
29. Greatest plates anyone has ever seen...
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 11:16 AM
Sep 9

...big plates, strong plates, with tears running down their reflective surface saying "Sir,....".

BoRaGard

(2,742 posts)
4. Everything The Felon (R) touches meets a HELLISH fate
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 09:13 AM
Sep 9

And the republicons who so admire him are determined to ride his lies to their political graves.

magicarpet

(16,269 posts)
5. But,... but,... we need an astoundingly rich and highly,...
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 09:14 AM
Sep 9

... successful business man in the White House. The government must be run like a for profit business - trDUMP has all the required skills.

USA,... USA,... USA.

Brother Buzz

(37,674 posts)
21. The marmalade shartcannon will convert his shares to 'Official Trump Digital Trading Cards' and clean up
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 10:44 AM
Sep 9

They'll be flying off the shelves in the "As Seen On Television" aisle at CVS.

lastlib

(24,801 posts)
37. Or he can sell the stock certificates for wallpaper......
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 12:00 PM
Sep 9

...or for emergency toilet paper.....

(I know well, companies don't issue actual certificates much any more, but he'll do it to squeeze a dime out of his cult.)

Response to callous taoboy (Reply #10)

lastlib

(24,801 posts)
40. As soon as the polls close, he'll be fighting the results in courts across the country.....
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 12:04 PM
Sep 9

It'll go on for months, and THEN he'll become a candidate for the next one. He's gotta keep the scam going to try to keep his lard-ass out of the pokey. It won't work, but he'll try....

Response to lastlib (Reply #40)

IronLionZion

(46,904 posts)
11. I hope his MAGA supporters lost a lot too
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 09:43 AM
Sep 9

It seems like another grifting scheme like all of his businesses.

He can sell more Bibles, sneakers, and NFTs

Silent Type

(6,384 posts)
14. He's down to $2 Billion ain't bad considering he didn't really put any money into the cruddy Truth Social.
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 10:09 AM
Sep 9

If he gets just millions, it's still a windfall.

lostnfound

(16,581 posts)
45. I swear, you're the one of the only ones who GETS IT.
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 12:15 PM
Sep 9

Most people don’t understand this is basically a novel way to do money laundering or bribes.
He didn’t invest anything. So where did the money come from??
Even if it dropped by another 90%, he’d still get $200 million in free money.

It’s criminal that the writers of these news articles don’t seem to get it either.

Cheezoholic

(2,595 posts)
47. I agree and that's IF anyone buys his shares. Its sure to tank even more when he tries to cash out
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 12:18 PM
Sep 9

especially if he tries to dump it all at once. I don't know where to look or if its mandatory it's disclosed but I'd like to see the list of folks who purchased the stock, especially large chunks, that are riding it to the bottom. Either from the initial investment and/or buying his shares once available, it seems this is a way for slimy mob/Russian/Saudi/scum money to get tossed freely his way for favor in case he wins.

FakeNoose

(35,512 posts)
18. Since he never invested anything, he didn't actually lose $4 billion
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 10:31 AM
Sep 9

The original value of the stocks was so overblown that there was no way he'd actually get that much for the stocks, once they were up for sale. Other Wall Street stockbrokers saw through that immediately.

The really awful part of this story is the way Chump tried to screw his young partners out of their rightful share. They put in all the legwork and expertise to build up the company, they probably worked for almost nothing to get the company off the ground. So they had to go court and sue Chump to keep ownership of the shares that were their part of the original deal.

Why would anyone want to enter a partnership with Chump? It's never going to end well.

bullimiami

(13,982 posts)
27. Trump didn't have 4B. Unless they want to pretend that shit socials imaginary worth was real.
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 11:10 AM
Sep 9

That’s on their stupid selves.

rubbersole

(8,419 posts)
30. Hey, donnie...
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 11:23 AM
Sep 9

...when your grifting ass cashes out (soon) be sure to get paid in bitcoin. Ask the devoted son Eric to handle it for you. His business acumen is legendary.

Botany

(72,355 posts)
31. I doubt Trump put up 1 penny of his own money. Donny has always been about O.P.M. (other people's money)
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 11:25 AM
Sep 9

And for those who think his stake in truth social was ever worth $4 billion well you can’t
fix stupid. And if was EVER WORTH $4 BILLION Trump would have cashed out then.

Doodley

(10,225 posts)
32. Elon Musk played him. Elon flattered him and brought him to X/Twitter, and in doing so, damaged Truth Social.
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 11:25 AM
Sep 9

Trump is too dumb to even know that.

Torchlight

(4,251 posts)
42. He and his circus performers really are just useful idiots.
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 12:07 PM
Sep 9

I think what his mad-scientist creators didn't expect was for him to achieve low-grade sentience.

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

SWBTATTReg

(24,011 posts)
54. And for those who are even entertaining getting into this stock...DON'T! Earnings potential is in the basement
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 01:26 PM
Sep 9

and as long as the loser tRUMP is still involved w/ this operation, you might as well throw your money away. And trying to short this stock is probably not feasible, as they are no shares out there to short, if you can manage to score a few shares worth the time and effort to do so.

What surprises me is that someone was indeed dumb enough to get involved w/ this business venture. Surely, they didn't plan on losing all of this money/value?

And tRUMP's share of the stock is still worth $2 billion? Yeah, sure. I will believe it only if I see someone offer two billion dollars of their own money for this POS stock.

And besides, I see endless lawsuits occurring w/ this stock/tRUMP/etc. Somehow people got seriously misled w/ the financial numbers projected in the beginning for this stock and we've yet to see all of the upcoming lawsuits coming up, seeing that they're already ID'ed some seriously 'off' numbers provided in the initial finances provided for this company prior to it going public (stuff just came out on this very recently).

3825-87867

(1,079 posts)
55. Question for those who do investing
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 01:49 PM
Sep 9

Trump lost 4 billion that he didn't have but somehow became his. Can he write off that loss or someway and benefit from this BS?
Seems as though he's been doing this before but on a lesser scale and no one paid attention then, either.
Build a casino - run it into the ground and get a tax advantage. Rinse and repeat with a differnet scenario but same idea.

maxrandb

(15,830 posts)
57. How can you lose something you never had?
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 02:52 PM
Sep 9

This was the most egregious example of an illegal pump and dump in the history of stock trading in America.

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