Edmundo Gonzlez, likely winner of Venezuela election, flees to Spain
Source: Washington Post
Edmundo González, likely winner of Venezuela election, flees to Spain
González fled days after the attorney general for Venezuelas authoritarian president, Nicolás Maduro, filed a warrant for the arrest of the former diplomat.
Venezuelan opposition presidential candidate Edmundo González has left the country for Spain. (Leonardo Fernandez Viloria/Reuters)
By María Luisa Paúl and Niha Masih
Updated September 8, 2024 at 3:12 a.m. EDT | Published September 8, 2024 at 2:30 a.m. EDT
Edmundo González, the Venezuelan opposition candidate and likely winner of the July 28 presidential election, fled the South American nation on Saturday and has received asylum in Spain, his attorney confirmed.
Unfortunately, the pressure against him was too strong, said Gonzálezs lawyer, José Vicente Haro.
Gonzálezs departure comes five days after the attorney general for Venezuelas authoritarian president, Nicolás Maduro, filed a warrant for the arrest of the 75-year-old former diplomat as part of what he said was an investigation into the oppositions publication of voting machine receipts showing its candidate won more than twice as many votes as the socialist leader.
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Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/09/08/edmundo-gonzlez-flees-venezuela-spain/
Doodley
(9,924 posts)sinkingfeeling
(52,582 posts)Evolve Dammit
(17,984 posts)Farmer-Rick
(10,949 posts)Trump hates Maduro. Trump supports a shadow government of unelected politicians funded by the filthy-rich. Edmundo Gonzlez is actually Trump's choice.
Maduro is not authoritarian. That's why Trump hates him.
Edmundo Gonzlez fled because he probably broke some serious election laws. Him and his pal, Maria Corina Machado, have been involved in violent attacks and other illegal activity in Venezuela.
Don't believe anything corporate media has to say about the socialist country of Venezuela. The American oligarchy really hates anything to do with South American socialism. It scares them to think some of a nation's wealth could be used to help the majority of it's citizens instead of just passing it up to the filthy-rich.
MarineCombatEngineer
(13,642 posts)Your post is so ridiculous it's laughable.
But you go ahead and keep defending the tyrant Maduro.
Farmer-Rick
(10,949 posts)Hey, if you think pedo Trump is a good judge of character go ahead and support Edmundo Gonzlez.
If pedo Trump hates you, it's a good sign you are on the side of justice.
Polybius
(16,854 posts)Farmer-Rick
(10,949 posts)Maduro is no Nazi or pedophile.
Polybius
(16,854 posts)A brutal dictator that needs a military takeover to oust him.
ck4829
(35,573 posts)Farmer-Rick
(10,949 posts)You seem to think death and violence is the answer.
Polybius
(16,854 posts)I just want him to rot away in a military prison.
EX500rider
(11,223 posts)Farmer-Rick
(10,949 posts)Tell that to the homeless and hungry in the US.
EX500rider
(11,223 posts)In 2021, Venezuela's national poverty rate was 94.46%
US: The official poverty rate in 2022 was 11.5%
The average salary in Venezuela: $145 USD per month in 2023.
US avg: $3,132 per month
Great job Maduro!! lol
Farmer-Rick
(10,949 posts)Would remove the harsh sanction they, and many other capitalist countries, have imposed on Venezuela would be lifted to address this problem......you would think.
In case you think these sanctions are simply aimed at just individuals in leadership....think again.
"....Sanctions which prohibited Venezuela's access to U.S. financial markets, and in May 2018, expanded them to block purchase of Venezuelan debt. Canada and the E.U. also began applying sanctions in 2017....Beginning in January 2019, the U.S. applied additional economic sanctions to individuals or companies in the petroleum, gold, mining, and banking industries and food subsidy programs; other countries also applied sanction...."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctions_during_the_Venezuelan_crisis#:~:text=2022%E2%80%932024%3A%20sanctions%20relief,-Further%20information%3A%202024&text=As%20of%20November%202022%2C%20the,imposed%20by%20the%20Trump%20administration.
LeftInTX
(29,002 posts)It's the second most corrupt country in the world after Somalia. I was very shocked to see this. I thought it would rank about the same as Honduras etc...But no. It's at the bottom! It's scary because it's so close.
He probably got more than twice as many votes as Maduro, according to a Washington Post review of precinct-level tally sheets collected by the opposition a sample that represents nearly 80 percent of voting machines nationwide.
The United States along with the European Union and several Latin American countries has refused to accept Maduros claim of victory and instead demanded that the government release precinct-level voting results, as required by the countrys laws.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/09/08/edmundo-gonzlez-flees-venezuela-spain/
Venezuela
Score
13/100
What does the CPI score mean?
Rank
177/180
Score change
-1
since 2022
https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2023/index/ven
Denmark, Finland, New Zealand, Norway, Singapore, and Sweden are perceived as the least corrupt nations in the world, ranking consistently high among international financial transparency, while the most apparently corrupt are Syria, South Sudan, and Venezuela (scoring 13), as well as Somalia (scoring 11).[5]
It's more corrupt than Yemen, Afghanistan and North Korea. That's a real scary thought. I trust Transparency International more than I trust a comment on a message board. It's not corrupt media.
Transparency International e.V. (TI) is a German registered association founded in 1993 by former employees of the World Bank. Based in Berlin, its nonprofit and non-governmental purpose is to take action to combat global[1] corruption with civil societal anti-corruption measures and to prevent criminal activities arising from corruption. Its most notable publications include the Global Corruption Barometer and the Corruption Perceptions Index. Transparency International serves as an umbrella organization. From 1993 to today, its membership has grown from a few individuals to more than 100 national chapters, which engage in fighting perceived corruption in their home countries.[2][3] TI is a member of G20 Think Tanks,[4] UNESCO Consultative Status,[5] United Nations Global Compact,[6] Sustainable Development Solutions Network[7] and shares the goals of peace, justice, strong institutions and partnerships of the United Nations Sustainable Development Group (UNSDG).[8] TI is a social partner of Global Alliance in Management Education.[9] TI confirmed the dis-accreditation of the national chapter of United States of America in 2017.[10]
For some reason too many DU members support Maduro. I don't know why. I don't consider Transparency International as "US corporate media". It's based in Germany and works with the United Nations.
Farmer-Rick
(10,949 posts)To support their anti-socialist hate, especially in South America. There are a lot of problems in South America, and Venezuela, that even right-wing countries have to deal with. To lay the centuries of problems at the feet of one or two elected socialist leader is unrealistic.
Some US citizens are peculiarly susceptible to corporate media propaganda. That's why Pedo Trump gets so many votes.
MarineCombatEngineer
(13,642 posts)it's laughable at best, tragic at worst.
Farmer-Rick
(10,949 posts)I'm sure it will lead you away from the truth
MarineCombatEngineer
(13,642 posts)The only one buying into the propaganda would be you, but do carry on with your excusing tyrant Maduro and his gang of toadies.
And with that, I'm done so go ahead and have the last word and a great Sunday.
Farmer-Rick
(10,949 posts)Words as a source of information. How is that Not propaganda and lies?
LeftInTX
(29,002 posts)Farmer-Rick
(10,949 posts)And propaganda can buy you.
Remember how wonderfully successful Pinochet was depicted. At least until the information on the murders was leaked. To this day the fascist dictator Mussolini is admired. Pedo Trump and others still admire Hitler.
LeftInTX
(29,002 posts)Judi Lynn
(161,898 posts)Really makes one warm all over, doesn't it?
Invigorating reading from released communications between Kissinger and Nixon:
The Kissinger Telcons:
Kissinger Telcons on Chile
National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 123
Edited by Peter Kornbluh
Posted May 26, 2004
KISSINGER TO NIXON: "WE HELPED" COUP FORCES IN CHILE
New Telephone transcript records conversation with President
TELCON: September 16, 1973, 11:50 a.m. Kissinger Talking to Nixon (pages 1,2)
Washington D.C. May 26, 2004 - In one of his first conversations with President Richard Nixon following the bloody military coup in Chile, Henry Kissinger stated "we helped them," according to declassified transcripts of a telephone conversation obtained today by the National Security Archive. "That is right," Nixon responded.
The transcript records a call made by President Nixon to Kissinger's home on the weekend following General Augusto Pinochet's violent overthrow of the democratically elected government of Salvador Allende in Chile. Kissinger reports to the president that the new military regime was "getting consolidated" and complains that the press is "bleeding because a pro-Communist government has been overthrown." When Nixon notes that "our hand doesn't show on this one though," Kissinger responds that "We didn't do it" [referring to the coup itself]. I mean we helped them .created the conditions as great as possible."
The September 16, 1973, "telcon" was found by the Archive's Chile analyst, Peter Kornbluh, among thousands of pages of transcriptions of Kissinger's telephone calls dated between 1969 and 1974, declassified today at the initiative of the Archive. Kornbluh, the author of The Pinochet File, called the new document "damning proof, in Kissinger's own words, that the Nixon administration directly contributed to creating a coup climate in Chile which made the September 11, 1973, military takeover possible."
In his confirmation hearings as Secretary of State that very week, Kissinger denied that the U.S. Government played any role whatsoever in Allende's overthrow. A year later, after details of a CIA destabilization program had leaked to the press, he again testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that "the intent of the United States was not to destabilize or to subvert [Allende] .Our concern was with the election of 1976 and not at all with a coup in 1973 about which we knew nothing and [with] which we had nothing to do ."
In his conversation with Nixon, Kissinger suggested that the press should be "celebrating" instead of being critical of the coup. "In the Eisenhower period we would be heroes," he tells the President. "But listen," Nixon replies to his national security adviser, "as far as people are concerned let me say they aren't going to buy this crap from the Liberals on this one."
More:
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB123/chile.htm
electric_blue68
(16,832 posts)countries! In fact I have had a pretty long time on-line Finnish acquaintence. So for me, I guess, it depends on the type of Socialism.
Different subject.
When you use the term "filthy-rich" do you apply this term to all rich people? I hope not.
Rich Conservatives, and in general rich Republicans; sure. Totally get it.
But there are Liberal rich people.
.
Don't know how old you are. I'm 71. My dad, generally a Liberal Democrat along w my mom even more liberal got me started in politics at ?12 yrs old as an occasional activist which increased into a semi-activist.
So waaaay back in '69 & '70 (at 16 & 17 yrs old before the 18 yr old vote in '71 which I did vote first time!) I volunteered for 2 Liberal Republicans campaigns (one NYC, one NYS) bc they were socially more liberal than the two Democrats running.
I never volunteered for any other Republicans, nor ever voted for any!
Hope you'll clarify this for me.
NO rush! 👍
Judi Lynn
(161,898 posts)for decades to grasp what kind of people it must take to demand Democratic citizens regard organizations like Transparency International as above reproach, for chrissakes!
Have watched and read about them so long, and their views are anything but balanced.
Even the quickest reference from Wikipedia gives one a clear idea of what they are and what they've been doing throughout their history.
Wiki examples:
- snip -
Organizational structure
According to its 2012 Annual Report, Transparency International is funded by western governments (with almost 5 million from the UK government) and several multinational companies, including oil companies Exxon Mobil and Shell, hedge funds KKR and Wermuth Asset Management, Deloitte and Ernst & Young.[39] Exxon Mobil itself was ranked in 2008 as the least transparent of 42 major oil and gas firms.[40]
. . .
Controversies
According to the newspaper Le Monde: "In its main surveys, Transparency International does not measure the weight of corruption in economic terms for each country. It develops a Corruption Perception Index (CPI) based on surveys conducted by private structures or other NGOs: the Economist Intelligence Unit, backed by the British liberal weekly newspaper The Economist, the American neoconservative organization Freedom House, the World Economic Forum, or large corporations. (...) The IPC ignores corruption cases that concern the business world. So, the collapse of Lehman Brothers (2008) or the manipulation of the money market reference rate (Libor) by major British banks revealed in 2011 did not affect the ratings of the United States or United Kingdom." The organization also receives funding from companies that are themselves convicted of corruption offences.[42] CPI's reliance on opinions of a relatively small group of experts and businesspeople, has been criticised by some. Alex Cobham, fellow at the Center for Global Development, states that it "embeds a powerful and misleading elite bias in popular perceptions of corruption". Others argue it is not plausible to ever measure the true scale and depth of a highly complex issue like corruption with a single number, and then rank countries accordingly.[43]
. . .
2017 USA chapter disaccreditation
In January 2017, the TI Secretariat confirmed that its International Board of Directors decided on 10 January 2017 to strip its US affiliate Transparency International USA of its accreditation as the National Chapter in the United States.[10] The stated basis for the dis-accreditation was the board's recognition of differences in philosophies, strategies, and priorities between the former chapter and the Transparency International Movement. Elsewhere, it was reported that TI-USA came to be seen in the United States as a corporate front group, funded by multinational corporations. TI-USA's funding was provided by Bechtel Corporation, Deloitte, Google, Pfizer ($50,000 or more), Citigroup, ExxonMobil, Fluor, General Electric, Lockheed Martin, Marsh & McLennan, PepsiCo, PricewaterhouseCoopers, Raytheon, Realogy, Tyco ($25,000$49,999), and Freeport-McMoRan and Johnson & Johnson (up to $24,999).[58] TI-USA previously awarded an annual corporate leadership award to one of its big corporate funders. In 2016, this award went to Bechtel. In April 2015 the Secretariat defended the decision by TI-USA to give Hillary Clinton its Integrity Award in 2012.[59] Since January 1, 2020, Transparency International has an office in the United States.[60]
. . .
Transparency International's political impartiality, as well as its own transparency, have been called into question over hacked conversations of prosecutors in Operation Car Wash, leaked to The Intercept.[70][71] In these, chief prosecutor Deltan Dallagnol and head of TI Brazil, Bruno Brandão, discuss a "backstage campaign" to "disarm resistance on the left", fund selected candidates, and target others, seen as adversaries, using social media. Plans extended to preparing a series of false accusations ("denúncias sem materialidade" intended to damage the reputation of former president and potential candidate Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, and lead up to a chat in which participants celebrate the election of Jair Bolsonaro.[72][73]
In April 2022, Brazil's auditing court announced that it had opened an investigation against Transparency International over the illegal imprisonment of Lula da Silva.[74]
ETC., etc., etc.
More:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transparency_International
Of course this report is superficial, could easily be far more complete and detailed.
I can notice you have been very mindful of history as it has played out, and I'm so glad you took the time to comment, regardless of meeting angry but always underinformed reaction.
EX500rider
(11,223 posts)Right, no one knows the truth but you. The UN, the EU, the US, Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International & The Organization of American States all wrong & underinformed, I suppose & the 7 million Venezuelan refugees are all on holiday.
You can bring up Chile in the 1970's all you want & it won't change the facts about Venezuela.
Happy Hoosier
(8,075 posts)Even the Carter Center says Maduro did not win. Is Jummy Fucking Carter now a shill for Yankee Imperialism to you?
https://www.cartercenter.org/news/pr/2024/venezuela-073024.html
You should reconsider your position.
Dan
(3,914 posts)A chart where the U.S. stood.
LeftInTX
(29,002 posts)I don't have time to take screenshots for every reply. But we are 24th in the world.
https://www.transparency.org/en/countries/united-states
Screenshot for those who are too lazy to click. Screenshot says were 25th.
Jk23
(156 posts)It might be an accurate advertisement for socialism but it's not a good one.
But there is a reason pedo Trump supports the opposition to the current elected government. He would never support someone who would help Venezuelan citizens.
And I don't trust the corporate media to provide an accurate depiction of the situation in Venezuela.
There's something very weird about how the corporate media constantly bashes Venezuela and sooooo wants everyone to get on board the anti-Maduro train. So reminiscent of how Pinochet was applauded and Salvador Allende was vilified.
Polybius
(16,854 posts)Trump, Biden, Harris, etc.
Farmer-Rick
(10,949 posts)But pedo Trump and the corporate media are much, much more vocal about their hate for Maduro and his socialist country.
Polybius
(16,854 posts)Dan
(3,914 posts)When I followed politics (smile) in Central and South America, one thing that I noticed was that the U.S. supported leadership that was against the will of the people of that country. It appeared to me, that our policy was supportive of the leadership that would help transfer the wealth of that country to the World Bank and the Corporations of the world.
Maybe we have changed, but my guts say no.
LeftInTX
(29,002 posts)Chile was socialist for only three years!
Venezuela has been Socialist for 20 years!
The US is not planning to oust Maduro.
The US does not see Socialism as a threat.
We're not in the Cold War anymore.
Farmer-Rick
(10,949 posts)The initial political and media propaganda on socialist in Venezuela came under the Clinton administration, though it started out as much more clandestine.
It has pretty much never changed since then.
The clandestine attacks on the stability of Venezuela and Chevez and Maduro are very similar to the attacks on Allende. The praise of Pinochet is very similar to the praise of all of Maduro's political rivals.
The major difference is that there is no Kissinger to carry out attacks with the use of CIA assets and our tax dollars.
But I will always give any pick of pedo Trump a jaundice eye. Trump really only wants to hurt people and gain power and money. He picked the opposition over the established government in Venezuela and you got to wonder why.
LeftInTX
(29,002 posts)Do you trust Jill Stein?
Farmer-Rick
(10,949 posts)Biden and Harris are not Nazi loving cruel psychopaths. They are humans doing the best they can.
They are not perfect. They are more trustworthy than Stein, Trump and Putin.
It's not an all or nothing thing, unless you profess to support Nazis, support project 2025, want to be a dictator and like having sex with children. Those things will remove my trust immediately, no explanation necessary.
Biden and Harris are good people at heart but I do not 100% agree with all their policies. I don't think there is any politician I agree with 100%.........I think everyone should question their leaders and not unquestionably agree with them no matter what.
LeftInTX
(29,002 posts)But you blame your support for Maduro on Trump..
You got it.
LeftInTX
(29,002 posts)cab67
(3,156 posts)I have friends and co-workers who've had to escape Venezuela within the past 5 years or so. A couple of them are now in the US. And when I say "escape," I mean they had to throw clothes in a couple of bags and get to the Colombian border before the police could get them.
People don't have to escape countries without authoritarian leaders.
I've also been there myself. I've seen what it's like with my own eyes.
It has nothing - zip - to do with socialism. It has everything to do with Maduro being a dictator with no interest in actual democracy.
Farmer-Rick
(10,949 posts)Backed by the displaced filthy-rich of Venezuela will be any better? You think people like pedo Trump and the authors of the 2025 project would make Venezuela better?
Venezuela has huge problems the least of these are the sanctions against the established government by the US.
I don't know your friend but I have friends in Venezuela too. They are thrilled they can get free medical care. Yes, there is a wait and some facilities need repair. Do you think they would have had any of that with the well funded opposition supported by Trump?
Hell we in the US don't even get free health care. Why can Venezuelan citizens get it but we can't????????
Venezuela needs to repair the wrongs created by capitalism. It will take centuries to fix all that damage while fighting capitalist countries trying to stop them.
LeftInTX
(29,002 posts)Farmer-Rick
(10,949 posts)I have served over 20 years in the US Navy.
I love my country and was willing to put my life on the line to protect it. Just because I admire the endless struggles of another country does not mean I will abandon my country.
I'm staying here and making the US a better place to live for everyone.
How many years did you serve your country?
LeftInTX
(29,002 posts)It sounds like many are denied healthcare due to being denied basic human rights. So it doesn't matter if they universal healthcare.
cab67
(3,156 posts)He and his family got out hours before the police raided his home.
Maduro is a dictator and has to go. This is an objective fact and not my opinion.
And none of my friends there is wealthy. They're academics who struggle to pay bills. They continue to struggle after they get out, but they at least aren't at risk of being hauled off.
Farmer-Rick
(10,949 posts)He sounds like he went through a really bad situation.
It sounds like some serious illegal activity was directed at him. He should fight this. Take it to court.
Maybe he can do a go fund me page or something like that to get funding to fight this. Sometimes the police do illegal and abusive things in Venezuela much like the police in the US.
He really should fight this.
cab67
(3,156 posts)Would you be willing to go there and file the paperwork on his behalf?
EX500rider
(11,223 posts)You don't seem to know much about the current Venezuelan Judicial system .
Venezuela's judicial system has been deemed the most corrupt in the world by Transparency International.[3] Human Rights Watch claims that some judges may face reprisals if they rule against government interests.[4] According to a 2014 Gallup poll, 61% of Venezuelans lack confidence in the judicial system.[5]
On 16 September 2021, the Independent International Fact-Finding Mission on Venezuela released its second report on the country's situation, concluding that the independence of the Venezuelan justice system under Nicolás Maduro has been deeply eroded, to the extent of playing an important role in aiding state repression and perpetuating state impunity for human rights violations. The document identified frequent due process violations, including the use of pre-trial detention as a routine (rather than an exceptional measure) and judges sustaining detentions or charges based on manipulated or fabricated evidence, evidence obtained through illegal means, and evidence obtained through coercion or torture; in some of the reviewed cases, the judges also failed to protect torture victims, returning them to detentions centers were torture was denounced, "despite having heard victims, sometimes bearing visible injuries consistent with torture, make the allegation in court". The report also concluded that prosecutorial and judicial individuals at all levels witness or experienced external interference in decision-making, and that several reported receiving instructions either from the judicial or prosecutorial hierarchy or from political officials on how to decide cases
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judiciary_of_Venezuela
Farmer-Rick
(10,949 posts)Remember the torture in Chicago?
Remember the abused and dead people of color in the US by the police?
Remember the Supreme Court giving the criminal Trump immunity? Remember the Supreme Court taking away women's right to control their own bodies?
Seems they should examine the US judicial system while they are at it.
EX500rider
(11,223 posts)Infant mortality rose by 63 percent and maternal mortality more than doubled from 2012 to 2016.
Since 2016, outbreaks of measles and diphtheria have spread throughout the country and into neighboring countries.
From 2016 to 2017, the country had the largest rate of increase of malaria in the world, with the number of cases growing to 414,527.
Tuberculosis cases increased by 68 percent between 2014 and 2017.
Only about 10 percent of HIV patients are receiving their prescribed antiretroviral treatment.
There are widespread outages of birth control. Shortages have led to a black market where birth control bills cost 14 times the minimum monthly income.
Ninety-eight percent of physicians in Venezuela believe the health-care crisis was the worst in 30 years and nearly three quarters believe that working conditions in public hospitals violate physician ethics and human rights.
https://publichealth.jhu.edu/0219/venezuelan-humanitarian-crisis-is-now-a-regional-emergency-new-analysis-finds
Farmer-Rick
(10,949 posts)After the Bolivarian Revolution, extensive inoculation programs and the availability of low- or no-cost health care provided by the Venezuelan Institute of Social Security made Venezuela's health care infrastructure one of the more advanced in Latin America.
In 2008, private hospitals and clinics and the qualifications of their medical personnel were comparable to U.S. standards.
Yes, they need much improvement especially with pay for doctors to keep them from leaving for richer countries. But what the average citizen was getting before was nothing. You know, like most citizens in the US without money and healthcare insurance.
Venezuela is suffering an economic downturn thanks to the sanctions against them by the US and other capitalist countries. So, the health care system also is suffering.
But my friends say you can still get medical attention and care for free but it does take awhile to get scheduled.
They say it was much better before COVID. In fact, Venezuela's death rate from COVID was far, far lower than in the US.
But what is really strange to me is that China's rather weird socialist/totalitarian economy and political system is A OK by our political leaders.
Prisoner slave labor, forced labor, religious genocide and brutal crack downs on any democratic movement is just fine by our political leaders. But I guess if it's socialism in South America, it must be economically sanctioned.
EX500rider
(11,223 posts)Not really, the "avg citizen" in the US can get and has health insurance:
US Census:
In 2022, most people (92.1 percent) had health insurance coverage at some point during the calendar year (Table 1 and Figure 1). That means 7.9 percent of people were uninsured for the entire calendar year. More people had private health insurance (65.6 percent) than public coverage (36.1 percent).
Evolve Dammit
(17,984 posts)EX500rider
(11,223 posts)How about Human Rights Watch?
In November 2021, the International Criminal Court (ICC) prosecutor Karim Khan opened an investigation into possible crimes against humanity in Venezuela. In 2020, the United Nations Fact-Finding Mission (FFM) had found sufficient grounds to believe crimes against humanity have been committed as part of a state policy to repress opponents.
The UN Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR), which has a presence in Venezuela, lost access in 2022 to detention centers where political prisoners are held.
Judicial authorities have participated or been complicit in the abuses, serving as a mechanism of repression.
Venezuela faces a severe humanitarian emergency, with millions unable to access adequate health care and nutrition.
Authorities harass and persecute journalists, human rights defenders, and civil society organizations. Persistent concerns include brutal policing practices, lack of protection for Indigenous people, and poor prison conditions.
An exodus of some 7.1 million Venezuelans represents one of the largest migration crises in the world.
https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2023/country-chapters/venezuela?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwlvW2BhDyARIsADnIe-Kwy2dp_m16htetSvr0zLDMv7PBTnEDHduWObhlCiv7wQx1QOMmVkYaAqYtEALw_wcB
Or maybe Amnesty International?
Lack of access to economic and social rights remained a serious concern, with the majority of the population experiencing severe food insecurity. The public health system was in a state of collapse. The government failed to implement humanitarian measures agreed in 2022 to address these issues. Protests demanding economic and social rights were met with unlawful force and other repressive measures by security forces. Critics of President Maduros government were arbitrarily detained, forcibly disappeared and tortured with the acquiescence of the judicial system. The government acknowledged 455 cases of enforced disappearance reported since 2015, the majority of which had not been resolved. Impunity for ongoing extrajudicial executions by the security forces persisted. Despite some releases at the end of the year, politically motivated arbitrary detentions remained systematic. The UN Fact-Finding Mission on Venezuela exposed crimes against humanity, called for investigations into the states repressive policies, and noted a lack of compliance with previous recommendations. The ICC continued its investigation into crimes against humanity in Venezuela despite the governments attempts to suspend the process. Prison conditions, including a lack of access to water and food, deteriorated further. Illegal mining and violence threatened Indigenous Peoples rights in the Orinoco Mining Arc area. Huge numbers of Venezuelans continued to flee the country and those deported back to the country faced arbitrary arrest. Access to sexual and reproductive health services was severely compromised and abortion remained criminalized. Violence against women and girls persisted and LGBTI people continued to face discrimination.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/americas/south-america/venezuela/report-venezuela/
EX500rider
(11,223 posts)Buys votes? check
Steals election when he loses? check
Stuffs courts? check
Arrests EVERY popular opposition politician with made up charges? check
Has riot police use live rounds? check
Claims neighboring countries land? check
Friends with Russia, Cuba, China, Iran? check
etc, etc
Happy Hoosier
(8,075 posts)I'll never understand the people who make endless excuses for the corrupt "socilaism" of Cuba and Venezuela.
EX500rider
(11,223 posts)Last edited Tue Sep 10, 2024, 07:44 PM - Edit history (1)
Happy Hoosier
(8,075 posts)Back in 2014, I remember some pretty strong pro-Russian tankies here. That was.... ugh.
Torchlight
(4,115 posts)don't seem to realize they're not helping him as much as they may think. (Useful idiots including, but certainly not limited to Ankara, Moscow, Beijing, and the Bolivarian Alliance for the Peoples of Our America).
Of course, Maduro points fingers anyone who questions his legitimacy and without evidence, asserts bad-faith on their part to maintain his Jesus-status.
After trump said "I was OK with it. I don't think it was you know, I don't think it was very meaningful one way or the other," I think Maduro then realized he had carte-blanche.
Farmer-Rick
(10,949 posts)"President Donald Trump on Wednesday announced that he is recognizing Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido as the legitimate president of Venezuela.
"In its role as the only legitimate branch of government duly elected by the Venezuelan people, the National Assembly invoked the country's constitution to declare Nicolas Maduro illegitimate, and the office of the presidency therefore vacant."
So, how does that give Maduro carte-blanche?
Geez, Trump hates Maduro because he's an authoritarian dictator? Trump loves dictators.
ck4829
(35,573 posts)How much corruption does there have to be for that to even happen?
Unthinkable. Simply unthinkable.