Trump's worst fear is that he will be compared to Herbert Hoover...

[kentuck]

Or so he has said.

But if Hoover had possessed Trump's authoritarian tendencies and had been willing to manipulate the stock market and the oil supply, he may have been spared some of the criticism from the Great Depression.

Trump is on thin ice. Both get to deal with the tariff issue. Hoover had the Smoot/Hawley Act to work with and Trump has his worldwide tariffs. There is no reason to believe the tariffs will work any differently this time around. Prices have gone up and there are shortages, especially fruits and vegetables. How long before people are selling apples on the street corner for $2 each?

I have not seen many economists that are gung ho about the future economy. The AI "revolution" is driving the present economy, in my opinion, and it is just a matter of time until that bubble bursts. It will not be pretty.

Trump may actually accomplish something? He may make Hoover look brilliant before it is all over?

[ITAL]

1. He only wishes

Hoover's presidency may have been near the bottom, but he was arguably the greatest humanitarian in US History. He's still beloved in parts of Europe. I used to have a Belgian friend who couldn't believe how Hoover was still crapped on here.

[rampartd]

10. hoover may not havecaused the depression

but he did adhere to a lassiez faire economic model that did not work then or now. a model that will be locked in hard if we allow him to define and outlaw "communists."


as far as humanitarian, hoover was in charge of the 1927 flood. an excellent book is barry's "rising tide." might give a little more perspective.

https://www.amazon.com/Rising-Tide-Mississippi-Changed-America/dp/0684840022

[ITAL]

13. I more meant how Hoover fed Europe

During after WWI, helped stave off famine in Russia during their civil war, and then fed Europe again after WWII. But yeah, he was also heavily involved in disaster relief in the States as well. One of the greatest humanitarians we ever produced. I kind of feel sorry he got swept into the presidency, because that really sullied his name here.

[PatSeg]

20. I was blown away when I heard about his

humanitarian accomplishments in Europe after World War I. He was a remarkable man. It is a shame that today, people only remember him in regards to the Stock Market crash and the Great Depression.

[Retrograde]

36. And in his spare time

he translated a medieval Latin mining treatise on mining into English. He was a self- made man, a mining engineer by training who worked all over the world. In his old age, he worked with President Truman im streamlining the federal government. A remarkable person, but the wrong man to be president when he was

[Raftergirl]

2. He's done great damage to his base economically, but they don't seem to care. They live in some bizarro world

where they think the are doing great.

But very few of them are in the top 10-20% - the ones that do well, regardless of which party is in control.

[fargone]

3. What? Not that German fellow?

[Ponietz]

29. *Austrian

Mussolini, the Italian, seems to be his role model. He fears a similar outcome.

[Raven123]

4. But is okay with being compared to Epstein. Got it

[ananda]

5. He will go down as the worst president in history.

No comparisons necessary.

[Easterncedar]

7. Angry older guy screamed "Trump is the best president ever!"

He was driving past us protesters yesterday. We laughed and laughed. (Because it makes them madder.)

But it definitely points to serious deficiencies in our education system.

Our simple 'Trump Sucks' sign continues to get applause and beeps

[some_of_us_are_sane]

37. Without a DOUBT!

Trump has single-handedly nearly destroyed our country with his SELFISHNESS and JEALOUSIES.

[Easterncedar]

6. He knows who Hoover was?

Not buying it.

[agingdem]

8. I think there's more than one dread..

Old age, descending into /languishing in Alzheimer’s hell like his father, witnessing the purging of his existence, irrelevance ..and the prosecutions of he and his family..but definitely not Hoover..

[kentuck]

17. I think you are probably right...

The way he hustled to get out of Turkey seemed like he was fearful for his life.

[IA8IT]

9. I've seen Pervert Hoover here.

[no_hypocrisy]

11. And that means that Warren Harding was sterling?

Teapot Dome Scandal

[Jilly_in_VA]

12. Herbert Hoover was infinitely better

Yes, his economic policies sucked, but personally he was a very decent man. His organization fed much of Europe followiing WWI (how many of you know there was widespread famine after that so-called "Great War"?). He was a Quaker and pretty much a pacifist and I understand he anguished over the problems of the American people following the Crash of 1929 but really didn't know what to do about it all.

Shitler ought to be afraid of being compared to Warren G. Harding! Now there was a guy whose level of corruption almost got there,......

[rurallib]

31. and his wife , Lou Henry Hoover, was instrumental in shaping the Girl Scouts

[AnotherMother4Peace]

14. Taft. I bet he's just about the same weight as the heaviest president @ 335 lbs. nt

[sarisataka]

15. Hoover, Jackson, Pierce, Buchanan, Harding...

He is surpassing them all setting high standards for new lows.

[dem4decades]

16. Trump can be the worst president twice, nice job loser.

[Janbdwl72]

27. The fact that the Felon could be the worst president twice

Says a lot for how misinformed, uninformed, misled and easily deceived so many of the American voting public are.

It also reveals just how apathetic the huge number of non-voters are.

[dem4decades]

38. Thew worst president and his voters are the worst Americans.

[Mysterian]

18. Not in a million years

Hoover was a good and decent man.

[Sogo]

19. Apologies to Herbert Hoover....

nt.

[31j20b3]

21. You think he'd be OK being compared to Millard Fillmore?

The terminal president of the Whigs?

Millard was a xenophobe, just like Trump.
Millard was a "know nothing" and so is TRump but not in the way those words mean on their face. Millard didn't know anything but love for America and loyalty to America, and the need to put REAL Americans first. VERY VERY much like Trump Millard hated Irish and mediterranean immigrants.
Millard was a lover of tariffs and protectionism for US business very much like Trump

Where Millard and Trump fall out is that Millard promoted an active Federal government meaning a productive and powerful Congress.. What Trump promotes is an exceptionally powerful authoritarian Executive Branch

[Fil1957]

22. He should be so lucky...

[Janbdwl72]

28. Why not consider comparing the Felon to James Buchanan?

Who did nothing to prevent what wound up being a war dividing the country, whose after effects are still felt to this day.

[0rganism]

35. Hell, WE should be so lucky

Thanks to F47, the next decade is going to suck miserably for the entire biosphere. We can only hope that his unrivaled incompetence blunts the effects of his malicious criminality.

[swong19104]

23. Trump isn't going to make Hoover look brilliant

He’s going to make the next Dem prez look like FDR on steroids.

[twodogsbarking]

24. Hoover Dam, Trump Terlet. There you have it, July 10th, 2026

[BaronChocula]

25. He'll be remembered as something between

Nixon and Charles Manson. No joke.

[usonian]

26. Hoover indeed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=

WAPO

[Polybius]

30. Hoover was more like George HW Bush than Trump

Calvin Coolidge was more like Ronald Reagan.

[FullySupportDems]

32. I'd like to remind him of Nixon

Who was very popular, until he wasn't. The country turned on him and called him a crook, Tricky Dicky. We can turn on the orange menace too.

[Aristus]

33. Trump isn't even in the same galaxy as Hoover.

Hoover: Brilliant engineer, savvy businessman, loving husband, spoke more than one language, etc.

President? Not so good, but it's a tough job for even the best.

And Hoover, like Eisenhower, ended up being a treasured adviser to Democratic Presidents like Kennedy. That points to goodness of heart, and love of country.

Trump is garbage in a vaguely human form...

[0rganism]

34. Sure, if he's thinking small -- he's got all the makings of a truly Legendary Twat

We passed Hoover levels of awful halfway into his first term, not economically but in something more basic: human decency. The damage F47 has done to the world cannot be measured in dollars. (Well, okay, maybe it could be, but it'd be a really big number.)

This time around, F47's poised to preside over the onset of climate catastrophe (which he encourages), water wars (with broligarch-owned data centers already buying up water rights everywhere), and starvation-caused mass migrations (where he enables the cause and rejects the refugees). Stephen Miller's talked openly about "deporting" 2/3 of the American population. Obviously that's impossible, so what does "deporting" really mean? What if such a cull were implemented globally? We have the tools for that, and F47 is dumb enough to use them.

If he died today, F47 would already have established his legacy as not only the worst president but as one of the worst world leaders to have existed in history. As he continues, he'll rack up a score landing him as the single worst human to have ever lived. Ever. That is some freaking genius-caliber work, a master class in criminal incompetence. Just fucking amazing.

Hoover seems a saint by comparison.

[Vogon_Glory]

39. Orange Julius has reason to be afraid: unfavorable comparison

While I was born long after Herbert Hoover’s presidency, I would say that he was a decent, honorable, patriotic individual who put love of country over love of self. Hoover was also an engineer: many of the things he had built are still there 90 years after his presidency. We can look and be. Proud that Hoover was an American.

As for Orange Julius: Meh (And I’m pulling my bunches).