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surfered

(14,988 posts)
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 10:31 AM 8 hrs ago

There seems to be consensus that Obama got a better deal with Iran than Trump did and without a war.

All Trump accomplished was to prove to the world yet again that he’s an idiot.

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There seems to be consensus that Obama got a better deal with Iran than Trump did and without a war. (Original Post) surfered 8 hrs ago OP
Most people knew this back in 2018, when Trump officially withdrew from the JCPOA during his first term. sop 8 hrs ago #1
Yep! surfered 7 hrs ago #2
The saying..it's not the way it seems does not apply here. Deuxcents 7 hrs ago #3
It wasn't Obama or Trump. House of Roberts 7 hrs ago #4
Good point! reACTIONary 7 hrs ago #7
Also Netanyahu was not the driver when Obama was president rurallib 6 hrs ago #8
Post removed Post removed 7 hrs ago #5
It seems to be Trump's reason for living...to prove to the world that he's a egotistical, boorish jackass. patphil 7 hrs ago #6
That's really what the "J." stands for. calimary 6 hrs ago #10
"It seems to be Trump's reason for living...to prove to the world that he's a egotistical, boorish jackass" Ray Bruns 5 hrs ago #12
Trump has never secured a deal Johonny 6 hrs ago #9
and Obama did NOT close the Strait of Hormuz. Norrrm 6 hrs ago #11
Not just Iran MOU bmichaelh 5 hrs ago #13
The great businessman is ruining the world's economy, the great negotiator can't negotiate without NoMoreRepugs 5 hrs ago #14
Obama clearly had a better deal themaguffin 3 hrs ago #15

sop

(19,801 posts)
1. Most people knew this back in 2018, when Trump officially withdrew from the JCPOA during his first term.
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 10:45 AM
8 hrs ago

House of Roberts

(6,716 posts)
4. It wasn't Obama or Trump.
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 11:18 AM
7 hrs ago

It was the US, the UK, China, France, Russia, Germany, and the European Union, or Trump.

I wish this was the first thing out of every reporter's mouth every time it's mentioned.

Response to surfered (Original post)

patphil

(9,317 posts)
6. It seems to be Trump's reason for living...to prove to the world that he's a egotistical, boorish jackass.
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 11:38 AM
7 hrs ago

After all, it is his middle name...Donald Jackass Trump.

Ray Bruns

(6,929 posts)
12. "It seems to be Trump's reason for living...to prove to the world that he's a egotistical, boorish jackass"
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 12:55 PM
5 hrs ago

Mission Accomplished!

Johonny

(26,827 posts)
9. Trump has never secured a deal
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 12:10 PM
6 hrs ago

Just an agreement to have a deal, maybe, in the future, that only lasted less than a week.

Obama secured a deal agreed on by the UN, China, and Russia, but Trump dropped the ball and never replaced it with anything.

Trump is and always will be a bumbling moron loved only by people he hates.

bmichaelh

(1,314 posts)
13. Not just Iran MOU
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 12:56 PM
5 hrs ago

Every time, Trump tries to replace something that Obama did, it is inferior.

Also, healthcare.

The number of Americans with no healthcare has increased under Trump.
The ACA subsidies remain stalled in Senate.
Trump said he may veto anyway.

This so-called plan of bypassing subsidies and giving money directly to consumers will not work for some.
Currently, I am using COBRA until I can get Medicare next year.
I have a history of lymphoma.
Even though, I am remission, I have treatments every 3 weeks that cost cumulatively about $1 million/year
Try to get coverage for that scenario.
Trump does not understand the complexities of cancer care.

Trump does not understand complexities of history.

NoMoreRepugs

(12,303 posts)
14. The great businessman is ruining the world's economy, the great negotiator can't negotiate without
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 12:59 PM
5 hrs ago

total capitulation and humiliation, the strongman is in fact a mushroom dicked conman who is pretty much standing in front of the planet naked - history is going to have a field day with VonSchitzInPants.

themaguffin

(5,515 posts)
15. Obama clearly had a better deal
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 03:03 PM
3 hrs ago

and the fact that nobody advisor or republican in Congress spoke to him, warned him, or called him out is worse.

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