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IcyPeas
(25,718 posts)Watching.
Sometimes I just dislike someone for no apparent reason...
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(Steyer)
a kennedy
(36,260 posts)beaglelover
(4,489 posts)IcyPeas
(25,718 posts)Response to IcyPeas (Reply #6)
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Silver Gaia
(5,407 posts)IcyPeas
(25,718 posts)Silver Gaia
(5,407 posts)oasis
(53,874 posts)He's an ex-Brexit advisor. Don't you love how he's so quick to suggest "drill baby drill" and "let's build single-family homes with California forests"?
nbsmom
(660 posts)The mind reels at the thought that he's been normalized by these random "polls."
Silver Gaia
(5,407 posts)Maru Kitteh
(31,929 posts)Im the ONLY candidate . . . blah blah blah
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.. . lather, rinse, repeat.
a kennedy
(36,260 posts)IcyPeas
(25,718 posts)DET
(2,576 posts)Katie Porter seems kind of condescending towards Becerra. I cant believe Hilton and the sheriff are even up there. Becerra seems to be holding his own; sounds reasonable and down to earth. I like him (not that it matters since I dont live in California).
Silver Gaia
(5,407 posts)IcyPeas
(25,718 posts)Friend of Rick Caruso.
nbsmom
(660 posts)Mahan might as well have an "R" after his name. He's also taking credit for stuff his predecessor did, since he's only been mayor for about 5 minutes.
DET
(2,576 posts)Mahan seems to have a solid background, but his debating skills seem a little weak (IMHO).
Silver Gaia
(5,407 posts)Much more so than anyone else there.
IcyPeas
(25,718 posts)awesomerwb1
(5,135 posts)He let that idiot Hilton walk all over him.
obamanut2012
(29,488 posts)awesomerwb1
(5,135 posts)Hilton even stole Becerra's time when Becerra was the one who was asked the question (about Becerra's chief of staff pleading guilty). Becerra said nothing which kind of sucked. That said, I hope he does win. That Hilton guy is a charlatan.
oasis
(53,874 posts)LogDog75
(1,351 posts)He's got what the British call a "posh" accent meaning upper crust. Also, he continues to smirk as and after he talks kind of like Tucker Carlson does.
IcyPeas
(25,718 posts)IcyPeas
(25,718 posts)awesomerwb1
(5,135 posts)Silver Gaia
(5,407 posts)He still seems calm.
I think we are behind everyone else, though.
Cha
(320,272 posts)Anyone attacking Porter?
TY.. interesting discussion.
IcyPeas
(25,718 posts)LeftInTX
(34,783 posts)It's wierd....But I've got a mailer right in front of me!
Silver Gaia
(5,407 posts)this is coming down to Becerra and Porter.
obamanut2012
(29,488 posts)Silver Gaia
(5,407 posts)So, that's what I saw, what we wll saw at my house, regardless of polls. That is obviously different. And extremely scary.
nbsmom
(660 posts)Mark.b2
(807 posts)None stands out above the others.
Too bad Harris decided not to jump in. It would be hers to lose.
Silver Gaia
(5,407 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(10,436 posts)And estimating that Hilton will make top two, a strong voiced counter will be essential, IMHO.
Plus he's an outsider. That might be the best counter considering the hole CA Dems appear to be in. Porter came off better than I expected. She was my rep. I campaigned for her. But then dropping out to run for Senate turned me off.
JI7
(93,836 posts)is that Republicans might be the top 2 so we end up with an with both Republicans.
As long as one Democrat can make ut in the top 2 we will win.
But Steyer having a strong voice will help more after the election and the shit we have to deal with from Trump and other Republicans.
Silver Gaia
(5,407 posts)I liked him BEFORE this debate, but he turned off all 3 voters in this house tonight.
Silver Gaia
(5,407 posts)He was awful. I haven't seen him polling that high overall.
nbsmom
(660 posts)I missed the Indivisible Zoom call on Monday, but apparently it was full of misinformation and dogpiling on Porter and Becerra. Coming so soon after Our Revolution's endorsement, it feels like some money has changed hands. That is beyond depressing because that means both of those supposedly progressive organizations have lost all credibility going forward.
The polling leading up to Swalwell's exit is extraordinarily suspicious, given that it normalizes the prospect of at least one Republican candidate (and possibly two), instead of examining why an ex-Brexit advisor like Steve Hilton would want to run for governor, or what makes Chad Bianco, with his abysmal clearance rate (Riverside County ranks at 57th of 57 counties), qualified to run the world's 4th-largest economy. So instead of the Democratic candidates wiping the floor with the two execrable examples of Team Red candidates, they're fighting over who gets the "one spot" on the ticket in November.
The toplines of the CBS /YouGov polls shared last week showed that there is still a ceiling for both Republican candidates: the "would not consider" numbers for both Hilton and Bianco still sit at 48%, and they're only going to go down when people realize that Hilton cannot even admit that Biden won in 2020, and Bianco is a racist who doesn't believe in the 14th amendment.
Swalwell is NOT a "good billionaire." He's flailing right now because he is realizing he'll have spent more than Meg Whitman did in 2010 (when she lost to Jerry Brown), and he won't have the cakewalk Adam Schiff had in 2024. And maybe you have also noticed how Mahan sounds a little like JD Vance (to be expected, since he's also propped up by Peter Thiel money).
The only two candidates who are capable of getting anything done in Sacramento in the near term are the two attorneys, Becerra and Porter. And as much as I really respect Porter, Becerra is the stronger choice, both because he has taken on the special interest, he's actually won statewide, and he knows how to get stuff done in Sacramento.
LogDog75
(1,351 posts)As of May 3rd, KGTV-TV/SurveyUSA poll shows the following candidate percentages.
Hilton 20
Steyer 18
Bianco 12
Becerra 10
Porter 8
Mahan 7
Vilaraigosa 5
Thurmond 2
https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls/governor
The total for the candidates above is 82% meaning there is 18% of the votes belonging to minor candidates or the undecided. IMO, if any Democratic candidate isn't above 10% by May 15th, they should drop out and endorse a Democratic candidate that has more than 10% of the vote. Using the above as an example, that would mean between Porter, Mahan, Villaraigosa, and Thurmond would drop out and the total percentage, 22%, would go to either Steyer or Becerra. If those votes split 50/50 Steyer would be at 29% and Becerra would be at 21% and that would eliminate Hilton and Bianco.
nbsmom
(660 posts)You might as well be quoting Kalshi.