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Pic Of The Moment: How Times Have Changed (Original Post) EarlG 9 hrs ago OP
Yeah, Mussolini didn't end well either FakeNoose 9 hrs ago #1
I hope Trump ends up EXACTLY like Il Duce... (n/t) Moostache 7 hrs ago #12
It bears repeating underpants 9 hrs ago #2
Interesting. Wilhelm was kaiser while Frederick Trumpf was in Germany erronis 9 hrs ago #6
Yes but his ace-in-the-hole was Otto von Bismarck FakeNoose 7 hrs ago #13
Kaiser Bill is one reason why I am American and not German. wnylib 7 hrs ago #15
Did ICE disperse that crowd with tear gas yet? leftstreet 9 hrs ago #3
Mussolini didn't make the trains run on time Johnny2X2X 9 hrs ago #4
But they are both master liars! erronis 9 hrs ago #7
Yep..and the pic should be changed to 1920 when Mussolini consolidated power Bengus81 8 hrs ago #8
Yes, I know EarlG 8 hrs ago #11
Sounds serious Torchlight 6 hrs ago #17
Kick dalton99a 9 hrs ago #5
Trump Mussolini Il Douche Norrrm 8 hrs ago #9
K&R LetMyPeopleVote 8 hrs ago #10
Hilarious and on POINT! nt Exp 7 hrs ago #14
The Rump Regime closely resembles the last Argentine dictatorship (whose coup turned 50 yesterday) peppertree 6 hrs ago #16
THey both lost all their wars. Wonder Why 6 hrs ago #18
That is excellent. nt Ruby the Liberal 5 hrs ago #19

FakeNoose

(41,519 posts)
1. Yeah, Mussolini didn't end well either
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 10:08 AM
9 hrs ago

We've all seen the photos so I won't post them here. But ....

erronis

(23,807 posts)
6. Interesting. Wilhelm was kaiser while Frederick Trumpf was in Germany
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 10:33 AM
9 hrs ago

The idjt's grandfather must have learned a few things from this terrible leader.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Trump

FakeNoose

(41,519 posts)
13. Yes but his ace-in-the-hole was Otto von Bismarck
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 11:43 AM
7 hrs ago

Wiki link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_von_Bismarck

Chump doesn't have anybody like that in his administration. (Thank goodness he doesn't ... things would be much worse!)

wnylib

(25,908 posts)
15. Kaiser Bill is one reason why I am American and not German.
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 12:26 PM
7 hrs ago

Kaiser Bill's father, Kaiser Friedrich (aka Fritz to his subjects), promoted social and political reforms to Germany's government to make it more like Britain's Parliamentary system. He was married to Queen Victoria's daughter, Princess Victoria. My great-grandfather was an officer in the German cavalry. He supported Kaiser Fritz's reforms.

But Fritz died after 3 months on the throne. Kaiser Bill persecuted his father's reform supporters and accused them of treason. (Sound like someone we know?) My great-grandfather's friends warned him that he was on Kaiser Bill's list to be arrested on treason charges. They helped him escape Germany with his very pregnant wife and 3 children ages 5, 3, and 1.

My grandfather was born in Buffalo 2 weeks after his parents reached the US.

Trump is driving Americans abroad in the same way that Kaiser Bill did. Then Hitler did the same. The US benefited from Albert Einstein and many other talented and accomplished people leaving Europe to escape persecution.


ETA: In one of life's ironies, my uncle (named Bill), served in the US Army in Europe in WWII to defeat the nation that his grandfather (my great-grandfather) fled from.



Johnny2X2X

(24,166 posts)
4. Mussolini didn't make the trains run on time
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 10:29 AM
9 hrs ago

That's a myth. Similar to trump's government, Mussolini had a kakistocracy which is a government run by the least qualified, most unprincipled, or worst citizens, essentially "rule by the worst".

Nothing worked well under Mussolini, same as America under Trump.

Bengus81

(10,153 posts)
8. Yep..and the pic should be changed to 1920 when Mussolini consolidated power
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 10:45 AM
8 hrs ago

and then became Dictator in 1922.

EarlG

(23,616 posts)
11. Yes, I know
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 11:29 AM
8 hrs ago

But the phrase "Mussolini made the trains run on time," while a false statement, has become a popular cliche used to express the idea that some people will tolerate living under a dictatorship, and ignore terrible things that the dictator is doing, provided that they believe the dictator is doing specific things to improve their lives.

Whereas our current dictator is doing terrible things while also notably failing to do specific things to improve people's lives, hence the juxtaposition of the cliche with the state of our current reality.

peppertree

(23,314 posts)
16. The Rump Regime closely resembles the last Argentine dictatorship (whose coup turned 50 yesterday)
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 01:00 PM
6 hrs ago

Both were installed with the blessing of local - and international - elites

Both appealed to right-wing snobbery, bigotry, self-righteousness, and vindictiveness

Both were staffed by a motley crew of incompetent fascists, bigots, snobs, and grifters - while their more competent officials were often harassed into quitting

Both relied on financial deregulation, high-income tax cuts, and other elitist economic policy - while imposing harsh austerity on everyone else

Both doted on military budgets while demonizing public employees (though the Argentine regime at least invested heavily in public works)

Both promoted media, as well as business, consolidation - while steering said mergers into the hands of cronies

Both had ample cheerleading by well-financed media lapdogs and clapping seals

Both enjoyed pageantry and parades (though the Argentines didn't have a ballroom built) - and tried to capitalize on athletes' victories

Both persecuted labor unions, academia, the press, lawyers, and dissidents in general

Both were quick to disappear people and quietly set up concentration camps (though the Argentine dictatorship was far more extreme)

Both took to wars to distract from worsening domestic problems

Both left a mountain of new public debt - saddling federal coffers with onerous interest charges for decades

Both derailed economic growth and upward mobility - permanently, in Argentina's case

And both admired Apartheid South Africa, while despising Jimmy Carter

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