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edhopper

(37,282 posts)
Sat Mar 7, 2026, 06:57 PM Saturday

Job growth and unemployment doesn't add up.

In Biden's last year, 2024, about a million and half jobs were added to the economy. The Unemployment rate was about 4%. In Trumps first year, a paltry 180.000 jobs were created.(That is total for the year!) How is the unemployment rate only at 4.4%?
Where are all the people who would be looking for the new jobs if the economy wasn't comatose.

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Job growth and unemployment doesn't add up. (Original Post) edhopper Saturday OP
Not Sure What You're Asking ProfessorGAC Saturday #1
In the past edhopper Saturday #4
I See ProfessorGAC Sunday #7
As a comparison edhopper Sunday #8
You Have Company ProfessorGAC Sunday #9
Yes edhopper Sunday #10
If they aren't actively looking for work, they aren't in the unemployment numbers EdmondDantes_ Saturday #2
Spot ON correct Edmond.... democratsruletheday Saturday #3
or they are "underemployed" Skittles Saturday #5
LPR Johnny2X2X Saturday #6

ProfessorGAC

(76,507 posts)
1. Not Sure What You're Asking
Sat Mar 7, 2026, 07:02 PM
Saturday

1.32 million jobs is the difference.
There are about 170 million employed people.
So, 4.4% seems a little low, but not outlandishly so.
Maybe it should be 4.7%.
But, that doesn't seem a big enough difference to create confusion.

ProfessorGAC

(76,507 posts)
7. I See
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 08:36 AM
Sunday

It's just the math pretty much makes sense to me.
If we doubt the BLS job numbers (and with this gang in charge, we have reason to be skeptical), there is always ADP, who tracks employment independent of the government.
Here are their February numbers.
https://mediacenter.adp.com/2026-03-04-ADP-National-Employment-Report-Private-Sector-Employment-Increased-by-63,000-Jobs-in-February-Annual-Pay-was-Up-4-5

edhopper

(37,282 posts)
8. As a comparison
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 10:26 AM
Sunday

Last edited Sun Mar 8, 2026, 11:38 AM - Edit history (1)

Biden's final month January 2025, ADP reported 180,000 new jobs. The following month, with the Trump tariffs in place it fell to 70,000.
And again, we are at 10% of the necessary new jobs for the work force. It all signals a serious problem with the economy, and now oil will shoot up.
Expect a recession soon (we are probably already in one but Trump's drunken spending keeps the GDP from going negative.)

ProfessorGAC

(76,507 posts)
9. You Have Company
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 11:03 AM
Sunday

Recessionary concerns are why the Fed was so slow on rate reductions.
They probably sensed the same things you expressed

edhopper

(37,282 posts)
10. Yes
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 11:40 AM
Sunday

And the Fed looks at both inflation and job numbers. If they already lowered rates, when it hits the fan, they will have less ability to impact the Economy.

EdmondDantes_

(1,676 posts)
2. If they aren't actively looking for work, they aren't in the unemployment numbers
Sat Mar 7, 2026, 07:42 PM
Saturday

And as someone looking for a new job, while still employed, the job market is pretty dismal right now, so I imagine a significant number have given up looking for now.

Johnny2X2X

(24,066 posts)
6. LPR
Sat Mar 7, 2026, 10:47 PM
Saturday

Remember the Labor Participation Rate? It was the star of the jobs report on FOX News for 8 years under Obama. It’s called to 62.0%. People are retiring. People that unemployed gave up looking for work.

Regardless. I think UE is rising and will be above 5% soon. I don’t think people really understand how terrible Trump has been on jobs. To go a whole year with basically no jobs created is a massive bomb waiting to drop in working people.

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