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AZJonnie

(3,579 posts)
Sat Mar 7, 2026, 04:13 PM Saturday

When I think Cui Bono with regards to the Iranian War, the first group I think of are: US Frackers/LNG producers

You know, outfits who contributed majorly to IQ47 and teh GQP being in charge of the country?

Considering the fact that Gulf-produced oil suddenly has a major hard time getting out of the Gulf, but US frackers and LNG producers have NO such problems, yet they're set to be the beneficiaries of massive global oil price spikes?

I know it's tempting to think that the spiking oil prices are an unintended consequences of the regimes stupidity, but honestly, I'm far from certain that is the reality, personally.

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When I think Cui Bono with regards to the Iranian War, the first group I think of are: US Frackers/LNG producers (Original Post) AZJonnie Saturday OP
The Exploration Outfits, Maybe ProfessorGAC Saturday #1
So you're asserting that this: AZJonnie Saturday #3
You Missed What I Said ProfessorGAC Saturday #7
They said the quiet part out loud... Hugin Saturday #2
Right. Suddenly there's a giant windfall to US AND Russian producers (sans sanctions) resulting from oil price spikes AZJonnie Saturday #4
Pootin... 2naSalit Saturday #5
The cost to refine that Venezuelan crude Easterncedar Saturday #6

ProfessorGAC

(76,499 posts)
1. The Exploration Outfits, Maybe
Sat Mar 7, 2026, 04:18 PM
Saturday

Not seeing those that distribute. High raw material cost could cut into margins & actually reduce absolute profits in the very short term.
I think it simpler to attribute such things to incompetence (abundantly in evidence), than to find a conspiracy as the cause.

AZJonnie

(3,579 posts)
3. So you're asserting that this:
Sat Mar 7, 2026, 04:21 PM
Saturday

"High raw material cost could cut into margins & actually reduce absolute profits in the very short term."

Would outweigh the value to the US producers of the oil they extract going from, say, $60, to $150/bbl?

Please do elaborate because I have a hard time seeing how this would be the case, but I concede my knowledge of the industry is far from complete, and I know what a smart cookie YOU are Professor

ProfessorGAC

(76,499 posts)
7. You Missed What I Said
Sat Mar 7, 2026, 06:06 PM
Saturday

I said the exploration companies would benefit.
Those who buy, transport, refine, and market petroleum products get the margin squeeze, as they are already sitting on inventory on futures contracts at lower prices.
So, the oil they need Monday is more expensive, but the inventory of refined goods on hand (typically 5 or 6 days of sake) will sell at a lower cost.
The price of the new crude creates short-term negative cash flow.
As crude spikes with uncertainty but falls to equilibrium slowly, the delta never compensates.
Yes, once the refined press goes up and manufacturing overhead remains constant they make more at equal volume. But, at the dollar volumes at which they operate, a few days of negative cash flow I'd a big deal.
As to foreign producers, since the US & Canada upped production over the last 5 years or so, Saudi Arabia doesn't have the kind of market clout they once had.
So, I can't accept some grand conspiracy when they is ample evidence the administration is incompetent & incapable of strategic thinking.

Hugin

(37,797 posts)
2. They said the quiet part out loud...
Sat Mar 7, 2026, 04:18 PM
Saturday

Removing the sanctions from Russian oil sets up a huge conflict of interests in ever ending the threat to the gulf.

AZJonnie

(3,579 posts)
4. Right. Suddenly there's a giant windfall to US AND Russian producers (sans sanctions) resulting from oil price spikes
Sat Mar 7, 2026, 04:26 PM
Saturday

But ESPECIALLY US ones, who I'd imagine have little need to access the Strait of Hormuz. Not sure how much Russia depends on it to get their oil exports out, but I'd intuit they aren't experiencing a stranglehold to the degree the ME producers are

2naSalit

(102,060 posts)
5. Pootin...
Sat Mar 7, 2026, 04:27 PM
Saturday

He needed oil prices to go up so he would not be losing $$ with his shadow fleet of oil tankers. And the petroleum industry will benefit too.

We need to begin shifting our use of oil based products, including plastics, from our daily life activities. They are killing us and we need to remove them from our lives.

Easterncedar

(6,083 posts)
6. The cost to refine that Venezuelan crude
Sat Mar 7, 2026, 04:52 PM
Saturday

Is getting relatively less prohibitive by the day. Well played, Chevron.

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