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LymphocyteLover

(9,693 posts)
3. there were some reasonable objections to them but I didn't buy them and I always thought they were overblown.
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 01:44 PM
6 hrs ago

Like it still allowed Iran to enrich some nuclear material for medical and energy purposes.

The best thing about the Iran nuclear deal IMO was trying to bring Iran into the international community and persuade them to have reforms.

But NO, Israel and Saudi Arabia threw hissy fits because their great enemy wasn't being attacked.

PSPS

(15,293 posts)
4. Actually, Iran was offered the same deal and they accepted. Trump bombed them anyway.
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 03:10 PM
4 hrs ago

They may as well call it "Operation Epic Epstein Distraction"

PSPS

(15,293 posts)
12. Yes, last week in Geneva, via his real estate scouts "negotiation team" (Jared and Witkoff.)
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 05:32 PM
2 hrs ago

Jose Garcia

(3,478 posts)
7. It had some positive and negative outcomes
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 03:38 PM
4 hrs ago

Iran didn't dismantle it's nuclear program, but it wasn't moving it any closer to acquiring a bomb. That was not ideal, but an improvement over them developing a bomb.

Iran also got a huge financial windfall with the unfreezing of its assets. The hope was that this money would be used to raise the Iranian masses out of poverty. Instead, it was used to fund terrorism in the region.

LetMyPeopleVote

(178,191 posts)
8. MaddowBlog-As Trump attacks Iran, his 2017 abandonment of the Iran nuclear deal looks even worse
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 03:48 PM
4 hrs ago

The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, one of Barack Obama’s greatest successes, is relevant anew given the ongoing conflict in Iran.

Trump sets the world on fire, so we stop talking about the Epstein Files. Let's prove him wrong!

As Trump attacks Iran, his 2017 abandonment of the Iran nuclear deal looks even worse.

www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...

TheBlackPage (Woke, DEI forever against fascism) (@theblackpage.bsky.social) 2026-03-02T15:30:11.233Z

https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/as-trump-attacks-iran-his-2017-abandonment-of-the-iran-nuclear-deal-looks-even-worse

The international agreement with Iran did exactly what it set out to do: The policy dramatically curtailed Tehran’s nuclear ambitions and established a rigorous system of monitoring and verification. Once the policy took effect, each of the parties agreed that the participants were holding up their end of the bargain, and Iran’s nuclear program was, at the time, on indefinite hold.

And then Trump took office and abandoned the policy for reasons he never explained.

In broad strokes, Obama set out to use economic sanctions to get Iran to the international negotiating table. That worked, and a breakthrough agreement eventually followed. Trump came to believe he could duplicate the strategy by abandoning the policy, restoring the old sanctions and adding new ones.

This was known as the Republican’s “maximum pressure” campaign, and it was pursued on the assumption that Iran would inevitably return to the negotiating table and accept a new agreement. If Obama’s sanctions led to a landmark deal, the argument went, then maybe Trump’s sanctions could produce an even better deal.

That didn’t happen. Trump’s approach failed......

How Trump arrived at his decision adds insult to injury. One of my favorite stories about the Iran deal came a few months into Trump’s term in the White House, when the president held a lengthy meeting with top members of his team: Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, Defense Secretary James Mattis, White House national security adviser H.R. McMaster and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Joseph Dunford. Each of the officials reportedly told Trump the same thing: It was in the United States’ interest to preserve the JCPOA policy.

The Republican expected his team to tell him how to get out of the international agreement, not how to stick with it. When his own foreign policy and national security advisers told him the policy was working, Trump reportedly “had a bit of a meltdown.”

Soon after, he abandoned the JCPOA anyway — not because it was failing, but because Trump was indifferent to its success.

Celerity

(54,078 posts)
10. Ask Sens. Ben Cardin (Md.), Joe Manchin (W.Va.), Charles E. Schumer (N.Y.) and Robert Menendez (N.J.) who opposed it
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 04:09 PM
3 hrs ago

the same for 25 House Dems

https://clerk.house.gov/evs/2015/roll493.xml#N

Ashford
Boyle, Brendan F.
Cárdenas
Deutch
Engel
Frankel (FL)
Graham
Green, Gene
Hastings
Israel
Lieu, Ted
Lipinski
Lowey
Maloney, Carolyn
Meng
Napolitano
Norcross
Peterson
Rice (NY)
Scott, David
Sherman
Sinema
Sires
Vargas
Vela

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