Hell, even Erik Prince knows this is fucked up.

[Tanuki]

(although he'll probably change his tune if he gets a piece of the action).

Link to tweet

[Skittles]

1. OMG ALL THESE FUCKING MAGAT ASSHOLES CAN GO FUCK THEMSELVES

JUST HOW FUCKING STUPID DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO BELIEVE IN DONALD FUCKING TRUMP?!?"!?!

[NJCher]

2. Did you watch the clip?

The point is that they don’t support the Iran invasion.

[Layzeebeaver]

3. It's not an invasion

It’s an air attack

[niyad]

7. Seriously? How is that different to all the dead children at that school?

[Layzeebeaver]

11. Did I minimise the death of children?

NO.

I only make mention of using correct terms when describing whats going on.

"US Invasion causes deaths of school children" is not factually correct
"US Air attack causes deaths of school Children" IS factually correct.


Do not let anger cause us to lose our ability to accurately communicate.

[niyad]

13. What, to your mind, is the difference? Not snark, I seriously want to know

the difference between invading their airspace in an air attack and invasion.

[Layzeebeaver]

17. I have no problem with accurate language.

In your response post you further clarified that it's an" invasion of airspace".

This can be even further clarified. Because an "invasion of airspace" does not in and of itself always equate to an air attack. But an air attack, by it's very nature, equates to both an attack and an invasion of airspace..

Accurate language is important. Otherwise the reader will discount what is trying to be communicated.

But then again, one can always just start with 'THE CHILDREN!" and expect folks to pay appropriate attention. That approach never resonates with me - I am a less emotional and more intellectual reader - that's just me. No offence intended and none taken.

From MY PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE: The deaths of children in this instance is horrific. However, I also feel that is really important in times like these that we are crystal clear in our communications about the circumstances surrounding critical issues. Using incorrect terminology might get the writer points for trying something novel or innovative, but it does not help accurately convey the facts about a situation.

This is only my personal opinion regarding style of communications - IT IS NOT A JUDGEMENT ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES SURROUNDING THE DEATHS OF IRANIAN SCHOOL CHILDREN.

[niyad]

20. And yet, with all those words, you did not answer the question, nor tell

us which dictionary you are using. Duly noted.

[Layzeebeaver]

21. Dictionaries?

???

[haele]

23. Invasion is boots on the ground. Air strikes are to aid

The Saudis and Likudniks in taking down their "existential enemy", the Shia Iranians and their proxies.
Maybe we're even assisting Russia by damaging an oil supplier competitor.
We aren't invading, as we aren't putting boots on the ground or taking territory.

The US is still complicate in that this particular military action is a destabilizing attack rather than an actual invasion.
Now, if the Saudis want to go in and split Iran up amongst royal family members or tribal/corporate allies to rule, then it would be an invasion.

[niyad]

24. "boots on the ground" is not in any dictionary I have seen.

[Celerity]

25. here:

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/boots-on-the-ground

[niyad]

28. Yes, but I was referring to the definition of "invasion".

[Celerity]

29. I was only replying to your exact words in post 24

cheers

[niyad]

30. I know!

[Celerity]

31. all good, niyad

[niyad]

33. ALWAYS!!!

[wnylib]

8. The bombs are invading Iran's territory.

[Layzeebeaver]

12. Seriously?

Perhaps we should now let language and meaning completely off the hook?

Do we talk about a gunman's bullets "invading" a victims body?

When the media does that, we call them out.

[niyad]

14. Three types of invasion, by land, sea, or air. Depends on which dictionary

one is using.

[wnylib]

16. ??? HTF did bullets get pulled into this?

Invading air space is not a new expression or concept. Invasion of a nation's air space by bombers is generally cause for concern. In the US, invasion of our air space by enemy bombers would cause our defense fighters to scramble and the nation to go on full alert. Start dropping bombs after invading the air space, and you've got yourself a war.

[Layzeebeaver]

18. You are correct.

But just saying "US Invasion" brings connotation of "Boots on the ground" - which it is not.

There once was a day when we said "We bombed" or "We invaded". and they actually meant something specific,

I guess today that doesn't really matter.

I guess accurate language and descriptions are unimportant now.

I stand corrected. Carry on.

Over and out on this subject.

[NJCher]

22. do you even know

the difference between connotation and denotation? You were arguing denotation at the beginning of your "argument," but now you tell us it's connotation; I quote from your post:

But just saying "US Invasion" brings connotation of "Boots on the ground" - which it is not.

You should know better than to hijack a thread over a point you don't understand, but you were corrected in several posts. I hope you learned something

Signed,

English teacher

[Layzeebeaver]

27. Thank for the ruler on the knuckles

Let’s agree that we will use denotation instead of connotation.

I’m always happy to be corrected due to an oversight. Thank you.

[Layzeebeaver]

19. Analogy

[Klarkashton]

32. How do you know there aren't "boots on the ground"?

Somebody that you can trust told you that?

[modrepub]

4. Didn't They Get The Message?

A new democratic friendly regime is expected to instantly materialize in Iran after we bomb the f-ck out of them.

[Dr. T]

6. The bombing will continue until morale improves.

That's not a strategy, it's a pipe dream.

[BradBo]

5. Prince is a fool just like all the grifting MAGAs.

[lonely bird]

9. Sigh

Erik Prince is a grifter. His opinion is meaningless.

There is no such thing as Trump’s MAGA commitment. There never has been, there never will be.

There has only been commitment to grifting by using hatred. Trump continues to play these people as fools.

[Javaman]

10. stated by the asshole whose whole business model is based on war. nt

[Vinca]

15. Guess the King hasn't given him a government contract recently.

[Lovie777]

26. Send him and his comrades to Iran......................