The Sasha Riley story sounds like BS

[Brenda]

Maybe he really did live through some horrible things and maybe those plus being a vet with PTSD turned his trauma and maybe delusions into confessions. Is he on medication?

No one on Earth should believe Chump was in a barn in Alabama murdering puppies with his bare hands.

No one on Earth should believe Chump and pals were locking people up to rape and murder in backwoods Alabama and Tennessee.

Shit like that happens but not by filthy rich NYC businessmen with access to the world.

Just hoping people don't waste a lot of time investigating this sad diversion from the Epstein Files even while proclaiming it's bolstering them.

There's enough damning information in the real files that we're witnessing the largest cover-up in American history by means of wars on multiple fronts, including waging war on the American People.

[questionseverything]

1. You know his adopted father was Epstein's pilot right?

[hlthe2b]

3. I didn't. That's interesting...

[Brenda]

7. I don't know that for a fact. And if so, it doesn't mean all the rest...

But tell me, with everything we know about Donald Trump and what he was doing in the 1980's - would he take time off from coking it up at Studio 54 to go strangle puppies in a barn in Alabama?

[questionseverything]

13. I'm not going to pretend to understand that mindset

But I am not going to blindly defend it either

[Brenda]

25. Wut?

What are you saying?

[travelingthrulife]

45. He is a murdering thug. Why can't people accept it. He is a monster.

He's been a mob boss his entire life.

We need to see all the files including the financial records.

Why do you suppose there is this huge effort to cover it up?

[Brenda]

51. I never denied any of that.

Except the claim of him personally murdering babies and puppies with his bare hands.

Someone who's probably never had dirt under his buffed fingernails. Sounds a lot like the QANON crap.

[Jimbalaya]

54. Information for you

Google:

Fox Island on Lake Michigan, Epstein's airstrip.

Trump's showboat casino on Lake Michigan, FBI account of infanticide.

There are verified details that connect very closely to Riley's account. Particularly, the use of the American midwest for sex trafficking in the 1980s (earliest was 1977, see first victim link below) before Epstein "leveled up" to Little Saint James Island and Trump "leveled up" to Mara Lago in the 2000s. Also, the use of airstrips on Fox Island for trafficking, and the use of airstrips on Epstein's island off the coast of Florida near Mara Lago.

It makes sense that they would use retired military pilots for this, particularly from the boonies, hopping from tarmac to airstrip to farmland to seaplane on lakes and ponds.

Also, the practice of "adopting" kids for weird seemingly sexual reasons is well known in MAGA - https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/06/18/rep-matt-gaetz-reveals-adopted-cuban-son-after-clash-with-democratic-colleague/
https://jemartisby.substack.com/p/house-speaker-mike-johnsons-selective
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/couple-sentenced-hundreds-years-forcing-black-children-work-slaves-rcna197533
They think they are still entitled to have slaves (and all that entails, re: children).

Corroborating links:
https://wkfr.com/epstein-and-maxwell-michigan-teen-camp/ Epstien's first victim was from children's camp on Lake Michigan's Fox Island.

https://wkfr.com/north-fox-island-history/ on Lake Michigan (Epstein had an airstrip here in the 80s)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majestic_Star_II Donald Trump's showboat casino that operated on Lake Michigan in 80s and 90s.

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%208/EFTA00025010.pdf FBI report Trump accused of rape and trafficking and witness newborn baby drowned in Lake Michigan.
https://medium.com/@criminaljusticechris/islands-of-power-and-silence-north-fox-and-epstein-fb312243a2f2

https://www.reddit.com/r/Michigan/comments/1alwnnh/anyone_know_anything_about_these_mansions_on/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brother_Paul%27s_Children%27s_Mission

"North Fox Island has an operational public 3,000-foot-long by 100-foot-wide turf airstrip as of 8/2015, making it accessible by general aviation. Airport designation is 6Y3.[7] This runway is unsealed.

In the 1970s, a child pornography ring was discovered operating on North Fox Island.[8] The proprietor of the island, Francis Shelden, with help from Dyer Grossman, Adam Starchild, and Gerald Richards, created a fraudulent charity they named Brother Paul's Children's Mission as a cover to fly boys in Shelden's private plane to his island retreat.[9] The Detroit Free Press published a feature story in their weekend magazine on Shelden and the island,[10] then published a second story when the crimes were uncovered.[11] The crimes have long been suspected to have ties to the Oakland County Child Killer case."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_Islands_(Lake_Michigan)

[Brenda]

57. Still not a barn in Alabama. nt

[Blue Full Moon]

50. Gulles de Rais and Trump/Epstein including a demon named Barron.

[BComplex]

10. More than that, even.

/what-i-have-personally-confirmed-william-kyle-riley-is-a-yr-old-helicopter
Some key pieces of this long thread:
What i have personally confirmed:
1. William Kyle Riley is a 76 yr old helicopter pilot living in Georgia who graduated from Troy University in Alabama.
2. “William Riley” is recommended by Epstein directly in a released email.
3. “Bill Riley” is mentioned several times in testimony from the manager of Epstein’s Palm Beach compound.
4. A little silly, but on FB, the second person in William Riley’s following list is Lindsey Graham.
@saschabarros

10. William Kyle Riley, pilot from Georgia who follows Lindsey Graham on FB and father of Sacha Riley was a licensed Private Investigator in Georgia. Why does a decorated pilot also need to be a secret PI?

Umm… this is a big one
8. “Bill Riley” is mentioned in this article from 2015. He’s referred to as a “private investigator” hired by Alan Dershowitz to *stalk and discredit* an Epstein victim. Two other names mentioned are “Steve Kiraly” and attorney “Roy Black”

To summarize what I’m confident of so far: Sascha Barros aka William Sascha Riley is related to William Kyle Riley who lives in Georgia and is a helicopter pilot (and follows Lindsey Graham on FB.)
There is a least one Bill Riley who worked for Epstein doing nasty work like stalking and discrediting victims, but I don’t know if it’s Sascha’s Bill Riley.

[Brenda]

16. A lot of assumptions.

I'll try to counter those assumptions, not because I know the truth but because it is not the absolute truth that Sasha presents.

1. Is he the same guy who was a pilot for Epstein. Or is this a case of mistaken identity? Was he a long term pilot? Does he have work manifests, etc?

2. What the fuck does Lindsey Graham have to do with this?

3. The "decorated pilot need to be secret PI" charge is just dumb. Lots of ex military go into public and private security.

[BComplex]

26. I really don't know what your agenda is. Are you trying to prove or disprove something

that can neither be proved or disproven without release of the files, and a huge years-long international governmental investigation? So until that happens, this man and this investigative journalist are definitely lying?

Nobody that I know of has said that anything on that release is true beyond any doubt. Nobody will probably ever say that.

Even if bodies are found buried all over the Epstein properties around the world, there are people who would step in and say that it's not true.

Have you had extensive experience with pedophiles? Human trafficking? Have you had extensive experiences with pedophile rings, or human trafficking rings, to say for absolute certain that nothing in there is true?

I'm just curious how you have decided to discredit this entire thing without any further evidence of this man or this interviewer.

Have you listened to all 6 of the audio tapes? What part do you think is contradictory?

[Brenda]

29. I have no agenda

I'm just curious how you have decided to discredit this entire thing without any further evidence of this man or this interviewer.

I already listed a couple of things he said that sounded implausible.
I could post some more of his quotes if you want?

[travelingthrulife]

46. So you didn't read or listen to Sasha's interview.

He could remember Lindsey Graham at least one of the parties. Does not recall seeing him have sex with anyone. He was a boy and they used drugs on them.
Also Biggs, Jim Jordan.

[hlthe2b]

2. I am only superficially informed, but my instincts tell me this is a trap...

If I am wrong, my humble sadness for this man and apologies, but that is what my "spidey sense" is telling me.

[rampartd]

4. if the story is real riley will be dead soon enough

[H2O Man]

11. Were it true,

he would have been dead years ago.

[questionseverything]

14. Why? No one seems to believe him anyway

There are tons of women, who were girls when they say Epstein abused and trafficked them, they aren’t dead

[H2O Man]

15. Where is Epstein?

You are aware that those "tons of women" are not saying the felon trafficed them, or killed anyone. Seems really simple to me.

[questionseverything]

17. Yes they do say they were trafficked

[EdmondDantes_]

18. They aren't saying Trump trafficked them

[H2O Man]

20. Key point.

Seems simple.

[H2O Man]

19. No kidding.

By Epstein. One should recognize that Epstein and the ferlon are two distinct people. This is actually why there are so many pictures of them together. If they were the same person, pictures & video of them together would not exist. I recognize that what seems obvious to some may confuse others.

[questionseverything]

24. Because it's *rump's justice department doing the redacting

[H2O Man]

27. Oh, really?

And how have they redacted what the actual victims have said publicly?

[travelingthrulife]

47. This victim said that Epstein was subordinate to Trump in the business. He said he thought

other 'rich people' were involved in running it.

[Brenda]

21. I was gonna rec your post

But thought naw, this simple thing you express deserves a real answer.

Hell Yes!

[H2O Man]

23. It is an

old tactic to try to discredit those demanding the release of the Epstein Pedi Files. It is sad that there are people who fall for this shit.

[travelingthrulife]

56. So he has to be murdered before we check it out?

[Scrivener7]

35. I agree. It's too pat, and it's too similar to satanic panic stories.

I wouldn't put anything past Cankles, but this just doesn't seem to fit things we know.

[viva la]

5. I'm pretty sure Trump has never been in a barn anywhere--

or been in Alabama except for a campaign event.

Not really his kind of scene... and he never does anything he doesn't like.

[Brenda]

9. Exactly. Simple smell test for this fantasy that people want to believe. nt

[H2O Man]

12. It is an

attempt to discredit the people demanding the release of the Epstein Pedo Files.

[Brenda]

22. Absolutely agree. nt

[misanthrope]

34. I can't see Trump doing that kind of dirty work with his own two hands

Especially something as messy as exsanguination.

Could I see him as a sadist? Yes.

Could I see him paying someone else to do the actual hands-on killing? Certainly.

[Alice B.]

40. I seem to vaguely recall he's a germaphobe or something? I just can't imagine him wanting to touch an animal...

I was unaware of the Sasha story until one of our local No Kings organizers referenced some of the more extreme stuff (killing infants with his bare hands?) while arguing with a TSF supporter in the comments section of a community Facebook post.
As a communications person, I didn't think it was helpful. To put it mildly. There are plenty of criminal things we currently *know* to be true, if anyone really wants to get into it with a Red Hatter posting in unpunctuated sentence fragments.

I'm not saying I don't believe Sasha has been through something awful but his story is not the first thing I'd reach for while making a case against TSF.

[travelingthrulife]

48. He has sex with strangers all the time. He is not a germaphobe until he

doesn't want to shake someone's hand.

[lapfog_1]

6. the names he was dropping as people that participated

Jim Jordan, Andy Biggs, Vlad Putin, etc... are not plausible. Mind you this was happening long before any of them were powerful rich people. How likely is it that he happened to run into all of these people in this sick child trafficking ring?

do I think that some girls that Epstein and his gang raped were later murdered... yes, but by professional hitman, not the rich bastards...

People think "Eyes Wide Shut" is just how the rich people actually live... it's not.

having underage girls ( especially from modeling agencies and teen beauty queens decorate your parties... and occasionally ( or even routinely ) service the rich men that attended the parties... sure. Many of these girls willingly participated ( but at that age they cannot consent ). Some might have threatened to go to the police... and I could imagine Epstein or Trump having one or two killed... because that story would be whispered between the girls and they would then be kept in line.

Bare knuckle fights, yeah... that's believable... even to the cracked ribs and bloody face. Possible.

I married into a "very wealthy people" class... Gulfstream jets, limo rides... Golf outings with Senators ( Jesse Helms of all people ), etc. They are different than the rest of us, but not in that way. I didn't last long... 7 years of marriage. But long enough. I never saw or heard even a whisper of this sort of activity... and trust me, my now ex-brother-in-law ( a very very wealthy little snot ) would have at least hinted around that we could attend such events if I was interested.

[Scrivener7]

36. I agree with all of this. What you describe is plausible. The Riley story doesn't seem to be.

Though if you and I both turn out to be wrong, I won't be overly shocked.

[travelingthrulife]

49. He didn't run into these people. He and Epstein brought them there to compromise them.

[tavernier]

8. Let us see the unredacted files.

If they contain reams of information over many years, as people in the know seem to think they do, then this young man’s story will probably be in a pretty good chunk of the files. Then at that time he should be welcomed to corroborate and give testimony. Of course he can do what he likes, but I think without another source, it is too easy for people to just decide that he has a vivid imagination or even PTSD.

[GoCubsGo]

30. I don't know whether or not to believe this. But,...

When it comes to Trump, NOTHING surprises me any more. The only thing that would shock me would be for him to behave like a decent person for once in his putrid life.

[PatSeg]

33. Yes and that's the problem

Just when we think we've heard the worst, something else comes out. Though I am very on the fence about Sascha Riley's claims, I have to admit not much would shock me anymore.

Yes, if he behaved like a decent, caring person, THAT would shock me as well.

[Upthevibe]

42. GoCubsGo.....

I heard all the parts of the interview.

I also don't know what to believe. I do believe that dt would do the horrific, horrific things that Riley alleges. That's how much of a sick F I think he is.

It would also explain why Jordan and Graham are such disgusting sycophants. But I wonder about the timelines too. He said that Jordan was really young when this happened. I checked and Jordan graduated college in about 1986 when he would've been in his early 20's. But he didn't become a Congressman until his early 40's.

I can see where it could be a set-up to discredit other victims. Having said that, it wouldn't surprise me at all if similar incidents didn't actually occur.

[GoCubsGo]

43. I always suspected that Graham is hiding something like this.

Not saying he was involved in the Epstein crime syndicate. But, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he had his own similar thing going, that Trump found out about, either from Putin, or by his document snooping.

[Wiz Imp]

31. Sascha Riley and Lisa Noelle Voldeng claim that they spoke with Senator Wyden

and House Oversight Democrats in September. If that didn't happen, I would think Wyden or the House Oversight Democrats would come out and say that it isn't true. Especially, if they thought it was an effort to discredit real victims. The fact that they haven't done anything yet leads me to believe it's not that simple and there is something to this.

[travelingthrulife]

55. There are also filed police reports from some of the violent 'parties'

[Coventina]

32. I also have grave doubts. It sounds a lot like what the QANON folks accuse Tom Hanks

and the Clintons of.

If it is true, my heartfelt apologies and sympathies to this guy.

[Scrivener7]

37. This exactly.

[OneGrassRoot]

38. Why would you post this?

He isn’t asking any of us to believe him. (He has been posting about it since at least 2021.)

He, like other survivors, are pushing for the files to be released which most of them say will prove the veracity of their stories.

I can understand not believing all allegations but by now NOTHING should surprise us. No need for this kind of content trying to diminish his claims based on opinion.

[Woodwizard]

39. Muddy the water.

Create a barrage of information it is and always been trumps way to keep attention away from everything. Can you remember the headline outrage of two weeks ago?

[bagimin]

41. I take it that no credible outlet or reporter

has touched this yet?

[Jimbalaya]

44. Some corroborating evidence

Google:

Fox Island on Lake Michigan, Epstein's airstrip.

Trump's showboat casino on Lake Michigan, FBI account of infanticide.

There are verified details that connect very closely to Riley's account. Particularly, the use of the American midwest for sex trafficking in the 1980s (earliest was 1977, see first victim link below) before Epstein "leveled up" to Little Saint James Island and Trump "leveled up" to Mara Lago in the 2000s. Also, the use of airstrips on Fox Island for trafficking, and the use of airstrips on Epstein's island off the coast of Florida near Mara Lago.

It makes sense that they would use retired military pilots for this, particularly from the boonies, hopping from tarmac to airstrip to farmland to seaplane on lakes and ponds.

Also, the practice of "adopting" kids for weird seemingly sexual reasons is well known in MAGA - https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/06/18/rep-matt-gaetz-reveals-adopted-cuban-son-after-clash-with-democratic-colleague/
https://jemartisby.substack.com/p/house-speaker-mike-johnsons-selective
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/couple-sentenced-hundreds-years-forcing-black-children-work-slaves-rcna197533
They think they are still entitled to have slaves (and all that entails, re: children).

Corroborating links:
https://wkfr.com/epstein-and-maxwell-michigan-teen-camp/ Epstien's first victim was from children's camp on Lake Michigan's Fox Island.

https://wkfr.com/north-fox-island-history/ on Lake Michigan (Epstein had an airstrip here in the 80s)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majestic_Star_II Donald Trump's showboat casino that operated on Lake Michigan in 80s and 90s.

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%208/EFTA00025010.pdf FBI report Trump accused of rape and trafficking and witness newborn baby drowned in Lake Michigan.

[KS Toronado]

52. Welcome to DU !

[Jimbalaya]

53. More sources

other sources:

https://medium.com/@criminaljusticechris/islands-of-power-and-silence-north-fox-and-epstein-fb312243a2f2

https://www.reddit.com/r/Michigan/comments/1alwnnh/anyone_know_anything_about_these_mansions_on/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brother_Paul%27s_Children%27s_Mission

"North Fox Island has an operational public 3,000-foot-long by 100-foot-wide turf airstrip as of 8/2015, making it accessible by general aviation. Airport designation is 6Y3.[7] This runway is unsealed.

In the 1970s, a child pornography ring was discovered operating on North Fox Island.[8] The proprietor of the island, Francis Shelden, with help from Dyer Grossman, Adam Starchild, and Gerald Richards, created a fraudulent charity they named Brother Paul's Children's Mission as a cover to fly boys in Shelden's private plane to his island retreat.[9] The Detroit Free Press published a feature story in their weekend magazine on Shelden and the island,[10] then published a second story when the crimes were uncovered.[11] The crimes have long been suspected to have ties to the Oakland County Child Killer case."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_Islands_(Lake_Michigan)