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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBest analysis of Ross' video: He switched hands with the cell phone to get his gun BEFORE he got to the front of car.
From a Threads post:
As he lapped her car, Jonathan switched hands with the cell phone from his right hand to his left hand so he could get his gun with his right hand. He is obviously right handed, and wanted to use his right hand for his gun. As his video shows, he did that BEFORE he ever got to the front of the car and could claim he feared for his life. He was getting his gun out to stop her from leaving, since she had started her 3 point turn to leave. She was not under arrest, she was free to leave. He had no right to even draw his gun at her, let alone shoot her 3 times in the face.
BTW, notice how the two shots he made through her driver window, point blank to her face, are edited out of his video. Did Ross make that edit? Did JD Vance?
Oh, and here's another video that points out Renee, after waiving one ICE vehicle to go past her, audibly tells the ICE guys coming at her from the silver truck, "I'm pulling out." That is when Ross freed his right hand to grab his gun. He wanted to stop her from leaving, he was not fearing for his life.
RockRaven
(18,740 posts)And that psycho was making a snuff film as a trophy.
Cha
(316,904 posts)an ICE Cold Blooded Killer.. and now he's running Scared like a chicken livered Rancid Rabid Rat.
Mahalo for this, SunSeeker
SunSeeker
(57,592 posts)Hopefully people will start to believe their own eyes and ears.
Cha
(316,904 posts)that are here on DU. I won't read what the Homicidal Maniacs have to say, though. I'm overwhelmed with grief enough.
I want justice for Renee Nicole Good. Truth in Action!
JudyM
(29,570 posts)with feet back as she started to pull forward; this explanation of leaning in to get a shot at her is just horrific, but seems to match up. Personally, I think he got pissed at the uppity lesbians and acted out ... wouldn't be surprised if they all chatted about that before exiting their vehicles... it seems like the other ice agents got out of their vehicle ready to physically pull her out of the car... there was no "would you please exit the car," he just started pulling the door open. And with this cretin gang, that would scare me enough to try to drive away, too.
The "f'ing bitch" comment as he walks away (and then proceeds to drive away from the scene) is evidence of his state of mind being depraved indifference, at a minimum, more likely animus.
Would be hard, maybe impossible, to prove that this was homophobic violence, but it feels that way to me. I feel bad for her wife... probably suffering about having talked that way to him, trusting she was safe from a violent reaction. But these dudes are unhinged and primed for aggression by the dictator..
sheshe2
(95,953 posts)He filmed it.
Now he has disappeared.
SunSeeker
(57,592 posts)https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15449879/federal-agents-guns-swarm-jonathan-ross-home-hiding-minneapolis.html#:~:text=Wearing%20balaclavas%20and%20half%2Dface,husband%20opened%20fire%20on%20Good.
Looks like they took his Gadsden flag too...anything that would reveal him to be the murderous right wing nut bag that he is.
sheshe2
(95,953 posts)Cover Up!
That SOB needs to spend the rest of his life in jail.
Kaleva
(40,209 posts)One can see his reflection on Renees vehicle holding his phone in his left hand as he begins his walk around the SUV
One thing that is clear in Rosss video is that Renee was turning the steering wheel to her right before moving forward. If it had been her intention to run over Ross, she would have kept the steering wheel straight or turned it towards the left. Also, I cant say for sure but it appears to me that Renee was looking to the right as she started moving foward. I would think that Renee would have focused on Ross if she had intended to run over Ross.
SunSeeker
(57,592 posts)Watch the video again. Remember, the reflection is like a mirror.
Kaleva
(40,209 posts)Based on what I see from his reflection At the 17 sec mark, one clearly sees that the phone is in Rosss left hand
SunSeeker
(57,592 posts)Last edited Sat Jan 10, 2026, 04:11 AM - Edit history (1)

That was after you see the reflection. I don't have a seconds stamp in the video I'm watching in the OP, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. I'm looking at the post by @its_ilene_with_an_i on Threads.
But here is the reflection:

Sure looks like the mirror image of the right hand to me.
And here is a Youtube video from Jen Psaki, which has seconds marks.
Look at the 0:13 mark. That is his left hand dangling by his side as he is reflected in the side of the car walking towards the back. Remember, when looking at a reflection, what is looking back at you is a reverse image, like in a mirror.

Regardless, that is definitely his left hand passing in front of his camera eye to grab his cell phone out of his right hand before he turns to go in front of the car. Here it is at 0:24 of the Jen Psaki video. Now that is not a reflection but the actual direct image of his left hand as it enters the camera frame from the left to grab the phone.

You see that, correct?
Kaleva
(40,209 posts)Which you told me about in your previous post.
Tribetime
(7,063 posts)Was dragged six months ago , and he thought in his mind , if this ever happens again , he would do something like this to justify what he did
Mc Mike
(9,251 posts)in front of this vehicle, very close to it, TWICE, on his own footage.
Woodycall
(596 posts)Hope22
(4,484 posts)We are already in hell! What is more hellish than a country ripped into madness by ignorant hateful souls. It feels like we are in line at the furnace. Ive thought this before but to be clear we cant get carried away with the idea. Theres still a bit of hope that things could change.
Figarosmom
(9,790 posts)By another agent.
SunSeeker
(57,592 posts)She had every right to be there, it was her neighborhood and she was not blocking ICE vehicles. But she decided to comply with that command and leave, which triggered nutbag Jonathan Ross.