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underpants

(194,924 posts)
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 03:49 PM 19 hrs ago

Kristi Noem doxxed the ICE murderer.

8 second clip in which she ID’s Ross as having been dragged by a car in June, 6 months ago. The Minneapolis Star Tribune took it from there.

Jesus these people are stupid.


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Kristi Noem doxxed the ICE murderer. (Original Post) underpants 19 hrs ago OP
They are beyond dumb malaise 19 hrs ago #1
IOW he's even stupider than we imagined for purposefully walking in front of a (wo)manned, running vehicle AZJonnie 19 hrs ago #2
This is pretty about who they have in the street underpants 19 hrs ago #6
Dumb as a Post, She Is! MineralMan 19 hrs ago #3
And Shady repeated it malaise 19 hrs ago #7
That's what having carnal knowledge of a sofa will do to your brain. MineralMan 19 hrs ago #9
DUzy malaise 19 hrs ago #10
She (they) seemed to think it was an excuse or explanation underpants 19 hrs ago #8
It provides the motive for the murder Johonny 18 hrs ago #21
You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din! lastlib 17 hrs ago #22
I had no idea that BOTOX and lip filler were also toxic to brain function... Moostache 17 hrs ago #26
the incompetence of this woman is staggering Skittles 19 hrs ago #4
Not the sharpest knife in the drawer. no_hypocrisy 19 hrs ago #5
BS Iwasthere 19 hrs ago #11
Thank You For This. BurnDoubt 18 hrs ago #18
She can say whatever she wants to Conjuay 19 hrs ago #12
Her brain is fried from too much Botox. flashman13 18 hrs ago #13
Nah. It was shriveled long before. Botox may have actually made her lips the smartest body part. erronis 18 hrs ago #14
Maybe it isnt an accident 🤔 SSJVegeta 18 hrs ago #15
We sometimes think these people act through rational thought and planning. paleotn 18 hrs ago #19
I believe they have a plan, but I do not think they have the moxie to pull most of it off without a hitch. marble falls 17 hrs ago #31
And the plan is insanely unpopular coast to coast. It's crazy stuff. paleotn 15 hrs ago #58
3rd string JV underpants 16 hrs ago #46
I agree, It's worth considering . Shipwack 16 hrs ago #49
And we believe what she says? niyad 18 hrs ago #16
Apparently yes. She was just reading a speech someone prepared for her. underpants 17 hrs ago #42
Make his life a living hell. paleotn 18 hrs ago #17
"Situational Awareness" is a foreign concept to people who hate Kid Berwyn 18 hrs ago #20
I was think this last night, one of the videos was from almost right behind the car underpants 17 hrs ago #41
A programmed mindset for rage Kid Berwyn 12 hrs ago #60
Sadly he likely won't be held accountable vapor2 11 hrs ago #62
The exercising of Situational Awareness can be overwhelming to people who are afraid of everything. Iggo 16 hrs ago #56
Information overload of fear. Kid Berwyn 12 hrs ago #61
Thanks, barbie. Just Jerome 17 hrs ago #23
Everytime she puts her head in her hat, it's automatically full of shit. marble falls 17 hrs ago #29
Just to be clear, that hat is not comically, grotesquely over-sized Bluetus 17 hrs ago #38
Good point: five pound hat, six pounds of shit. marble falls 17 hrs ago #39
Their incompetence may be the one thing that saves us. W_HAMILTON 17 hrs ago #24
Wonder iif Jonathan Ross appreciates that? Cha 17 hrs ago #25
A benefit of TACO hiring stupid people unqualified for their responsibility. They make mistakes and tell on themselves. marble falls 17 hrs ago #27
The excuse.that he has some sort of PTSD has begun officially Klarkashton 17 hrs ago #28
So the excuse is that he shouldn't have been out there in the first place? underpants 17 hrs ago #40
It's a sob story. No rational thinking behind it. Klarkashton 17 hrs ago #43
They have nothing but positive feedback inside their bubble and with influencers underpants 16 hrs ago #57
Bingo carpetbagger 16 hrs ago #47
The world would be a better place if Kristi Noem spent more time ... 11 Bravo 17 hrs ago #30
Don't forget she is a murderer of horses, goats and puppies. EVIL! tazcat 17 hrs ago #32
Gnome didn't care about her puppy, Hassler 17 hrs ago #33
We can use his picture and name for our protest signs calling for his arrest. mysteryowl 17 hrs ago #34
Maybe she killed the dog because he was much smarter than she is. Norbert 17 hrs ago #35
Rule #1 in a traffic stop, approach the car from the sides. surfered 17 hrs ago #36
I tried to find him yesterday, based on that comment. Ms. Toad 17 hrs ago #37
A pattern. They killed that poor person too, and then ICE lied that he was a criminal alien. SunSeeker 16 hrs ago #48
Good VanceFan 17 hrs ago #44
That reflects poorly on her and leadership. carpetbagger 16 hrs ago #45
Great story. This guy was chomping at the bit underpants 16 hrs ago #54
I'm sure the Trump Admin can't wait for people to seek violent retribution against him and others... AntiFascist 16 hrs ago #50
Stupid or arrogant? They can add up to the same outcome Warpy 16 hrs ago #51
kakisticracy. creon 16 hrs ago #52
That's about the level of intelligence you'd expect from a blowup doll The Blue Flower 16 hrs ago #53
😂 underpants 14 hrs ago #59
Thanks and watch your steps on the way down. Dave Bowman 16 hrs ago #55

AZJonnie

(2,831 posts)
2. IOW he's even stupider than we imagined for purposefully walking in front of a (wo)manned, running vehicle
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 03:57 PM
19 hrs ago

While his partners in crime swarmed in from the drivers side screaming at an innocent US citizen exercising their constitutional rights to "get out of the fucking car". Dude had ALREADY pulled a stupid move around moving vehicles, just 6 months before.

If what Noem is saying is even true in the first place, this particular tidbit is the OPPOSITE of exculpatory, rather it provides MOTIVE.

Good job, KKKristi!

underpants

(194,924 posts)
6. This is pretty about who they have in the street
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 04:00 PM
19 hrs ago

Yeah this is pretty telling about literally being any warm body. 6 months?
No evaluation? Down time? Normal HR stuff I’d think law enforcement or not.

I said yesterday that he looked like he was chomping at the bit. He really was.

underpants

(194,924 posts)
8. She (they) seemed to think it was an excuse or explanation
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 04:01 PM
19 hrs ago

I posted earlier that he apparently got 33 stitches from the first instance.

Just put him back out there I guess.

lastlib

(27,551 posts)
22. You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din!
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:33 PM
17 hrs ago

Politesse escapes me at this moment.

Krusty Noem is a stupid lying silo-load of dysenteric whaleshit.

Moostache

(10,983 posts)
26. I had no idea that BOTOX and lip filler were also toxic to brain function...
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:44 PM
17 hrs ago

Learn something new all the time!

Skittles

(169,584 posts)
4. the incompetence of this woman is staggering
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 03:58 PM
19 hrs ago

no way would she have lasted any amount of time in the IT world I worked int

Iwasthere

(3,499 posts)
11. BS
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 04:08 PM
19 hrs ago


From Title 1, U.S. DOJ Policy on Use of Force:
"Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury ... and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle."
Also, placing oneself in the path of a moving vehicle constitutes officer-created jeopardy and undermines any claim that deadly force was necessary.

BurnDoubt

(1,472 posts)
18. Thank You For This.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:07 PM
18 hrs ago

Lack of training or proper supervision as well as any evidence this person has the mental capacity and the psychological makeup to handle complex interactions in a professional manner. I’m sure willingness to do violence and an abiding hatred of “WOKE” and fealty to a Tyrant was all the resume they needed. Unqualified and unprincipled is the demographic they are sifting for.
I’m sure they DID get a chalk-talk about ”Warrior Ethos" and Masculine Superiority and pumped-full of hate speech and bravado. You know, “The Sayings Of Secretary Of DEFENCE" Shit-For Brains, to the beat of chest-thumping.
Toxic Masculinity writ in Spades, literally.
And KKKristi she’s their poster-child for Equal Rights. Women CAN be just as Evil and Deplorable as the Worst Toxic Male.
Congratulations.

Conjuay

(2,900 posts)
12. She can say whatever she wants to
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 04:09 PM
19 hrs ago

We can't confirm or deny anything she claims about his previous actions because he was a masked and unidentified felon then as well.

erronis

(22,662 posts)
14. Nah. It was shriveled long before. Botox may have actually made her lips the smartest body part.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 04:54 PM
18 hrs ago

paleotn

(21,551 posts)
19. We sometimes think these people act through rational thought and planning.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:09 PM
18 hrs ago

It's normal for sane, rational people to think that. Then we quickly discover no, that isn't the case. They're dumber than fucking fence posts. Really, the only thing we have going for us right now.

marble falls

(71,104 posts)
31. I believe they have a plan, but I do not think they have the moxie to pull most of it off without a hitch.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:48 PM
17 hrs ago

Shipwack

(3,001 posts)
49. I agree, It's worth considering .
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:25 PM
16 hrs ago

However…

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." 1980 – Robert J. Hanlon (among many others)

underpants

(194,924 posts)
42. Apparently yes. She was just reading a speech someone prepared for her.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:07 PM
17 hrs ago

God this would be hilarious if it wasn’t about such a tragic event.

Kid Berwyn

(22,968 posts)
20. "Situational Awareness" is a foreign concept to people who hate
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:14 PM
18 hrs ago

...what they don't understand...
...who they don't know...
...how it doesn't profit them...

underpants

(194,924 posts)
41. I was think this last night, one of the videos was from almost right behind the car
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:06 PM
17 hrs ago

He was so fueled with rage (I mean aside from firing three rounds in the middle of a residential street) that he didn’t process that someone was basically in the line of fire?

Kid Berwyn

(22,968 posts)
60. A programmed mindset for rage
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 10:58 PM
12 hrs ago

Automatic hate as muscle memory that overrides frontal lobe processing in sending messaging commands. The guy had his hands full, filming the “arrest scene” with one hand and grabbing his semiautomatic with the other. Think it was Glenn Kirschner who asked if his body cam was on.

vapor2

(3,772 posts)
62. Sadly he likely won't be held accountable
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 11:35 PM
11 hrs ago

Shooting someone in the head 3 times should land him in jail for years. The continued lawlessness befuddles me

Iggo

(49,654 posts)
56. The exercising of Situational Awareness can be overwhelming to people who are afraid of everything.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:54 PM
16 hrs ago

Kid Berwyn

(22,968 posts)
61. Information overload of fear.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 11:01 PM
12 hrs ago

When panic arises, I try to use what critical faculties I can muster to find a way forward.

LOL. Like it helps.

Bluetus

(2,300 posts)
38. Just to be clear, that hat is not comically, grotesquely over-sized
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:58 PM
17 hrs ago

It is a normal size hat. It is just that her brain is so tiny, it looks like the hat is resting on her shoulders.

Cha

(316,794 posts)
25. Wonder iif Jonathan Ross appreciates that?
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:38 PM
17 hrs ago

So he's a Trigger Happy Homicidal Maniac... Needs to be put away in Prison.

TY

marble falls

(71,104 posts)
27. A benefit of TACO hiring stupid people unqualified for their responsibility. They make mistakes and tell on themselves.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:45 PM
17 hrs ago

Klarkashton

(4,736 posts)
28. The excuse.that he has some sort of PTSD has begun officially
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:45 PM
17 hrs ago

That matters more than his identity I guess.

underpants

(194,924 posts)
40. So the excuse is that he shouldn't have been out there in the first place?
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:02 PM
17 hrs ago

Is there any actual management at ICE/DHS?

Klarkashton

(4,736 posts)
43. It's a sob story. No rational thinking behind it.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:13 PM
17 hrs ago

Shooting from the hip. They have been underthinking this thing from the start.

underpants

(194,924 posts)
57. They have nothing but positive feedback inside their bubble and with influencers
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 07:04 PM
16 hrs ago

Their hubris makes Dick&W look like hopeful teenagers at a dance.

He can’t be wrong. There’s no way he can ever be wrong. Very dangerous.

11 Bravo

(24,279 posts)
30. The world would be a better place if Kristi Noem spent more time ...
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:47 PM
17 hrs ago

smoking Corey Lewandowski's pole, and less time murdering Minnesota moms.
Just a thought.

Hassler

(4,767 posts)
33. Gnome didn't care about her puppy,
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:52 PM
17 hrs ago

Why should she care about a killer goon when she can easily find another magat goon.

Ms. Toad

(38,306 posts)
37. I tried to find him yesterday, based on that comment.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:56 PM
17 hrs ago

I found a different ICE agent who was dragged by a car. That agent killed the driver. (

)

SunSeeker

(57,566 posts)
48. A pattern. They killed that poor person too, and then ICE lied that he was a criminal alien.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:24 PM
16 hrs ago

But as the video points out, Viegas Gonzalez had no criminal record, just a few speeding tickets, the last one in 2014.

carpetbagger

(5,411 posts)
45. That reflects poorly on her and leadership.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:20 PM
16 hrs ago

Sounds like this guy had a Shawinigan Handshake moment (look it up, it's pretty funny in that case because the guy lived), a cop in a rogue force with ptsd from his experience and nobody trying to mitigate it, and the guy snapped in a predictable situation.

I will change my opinion about this if evidence shows the guy to be a total bad seed vs. an average bad seed of ICE.

underpants

(194,924 posts)
54. Great story. This guy was chomping at the bit
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:35 PM
16 hrs ago

We may never know if he is indeed a bad seed. I kinda hope he is but from what I’ve seen , there’s quite a culture of violence.

AntiFascist

(13,731 posts)
50. I'm sure the Trump Admin can't wait for people to seek violent retribution against him and others...
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:27 PM
16 hrs ago

then they will have a better excuse to advance their invasion and ultimately declare martial law. Noem probably wants to put him out there as a pawn.

Gov. Walz has already activated the National Guard. He has talked about using the Guard to protect against "a rogue ICE agent" and has also suggested it may be necessary to use armed guards to protect children at certain schools. Meanwhile, there should be plenty of support for a civil suit in state court against the murderer.

Warpy

(114,389 posts)
51. Stupid or arrogant? They can add up to the same outcome
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:30 PM
16 hrs ago

but one will get her fired while the other will get her appreciated.

Now it's time for people who can see well enough to do the job to search the perp's history for ties to various flavors of fascist good ole boy clubs.

I can foresee a day when putting "ICE Agent" oin a resumé disqualifies them on the spot from any job that allows them to carry a gun.

creon

(1,816 posts)
52. kakisticracy.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:33 PM
16 hrs ago

It is a kakistocracy.
A Kasistocracy that is assaultive, vindictive and gormless.

The Blue Flower

(6,355 posts)
53. That's about the level of intelligence you'd expect from a blowup doll
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:34 PM
16 hrs ago

Stupid is the other side of the coin from incompetent narcissist.

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