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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsKristi Noem doxxed the ICE murderer.
8 second clip in which she IDs Ross as having been dragged by a car in June, 6 months ago. The Minneapolis Star Tribune took it from there.
Jesus these people are stupid.
Link to tweet
?s=46&t=3VBm1LJ8j8qLp6JTs_8J2A
malaise
(292,817 posts)Good
AZJonnie
(2,831 posts)While his partners in crime swarmed in from the drivers side screaming at an innocent US citizen exercising their constitutional rights to "get out of the fucking car". Dude had ALREADY pulled a stupid move around moving vehicles, just 6 months before.
If what Noem is saying is even true in the first place, this particular tidbit is the OPPOSITE of exculpatory, rather it provides MOTIVE.
Good job, KKKristi!
underpants
(194,924 posts)Yeah this is pretty telling about literally being any warm body. 6 months?
No evaluation? Down time? Normal HR stuff Id think law enforcement or not.
I said yesterday that he looked like he was chomping at the bit. He really was.
MineralMan
(150,641 posts)I'd laugh, but that wouldn't be polite.
malaise
(292,817 posts)😀
MineralMan
(150,641 posts)malaise
(292,817 posts)😀
underpants
(194,924 posts)I posted earlier that he apparently got 33 stitches from the first instance.
Just put him back out there I guess.
Johonny
(25,470 posts)Which was nice of her.
lastlib
(27,551 posts)Politesse escapes me at this moment.
Krusty Noem is a stupid lying silo-load of dysenteric whaleshit.
Moostache
(10,983 posts)Learn something new all the time!
Skittles
(169,584 posts)no way would she have lasted any amount of time in the IT world I worked int
no_hypocrisy
(54,290 posts)Iwasthere
(3,499 posts)From Title 1, U.S. DOJ Policy on Use of Force:
"Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury ... and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle."
Also, placing oneself in the path of a moving vehicle constitutes officer-created jeopardy and undermines any claim that deadly force was necessary.
BurnDoubt
(1,472 posts)Lack of training or proper supervision as well as any evidence this person has the mental capacity and the psychological makeup to handle complex interactions in a professional manner. Im sure willingness to do violence and an abiding hatred of WOKE and fealty to a Tyrant was all the resume they needed. Unqualified and unprincipled is the demographic they are sifting for.
Im sure they DID get a chalk-talk about Warrior Ethos" and Masculine Superiority and pumped-full of hate speech and bravado. You know, The Sayings Of Secretary Of DEFENCE" Shit-For Brains, to the beat of chest-thumping.
Toxic Masculinity writ in Spades, literally.
And KKKristi shes their poster-child for Equal Rights. Women CAN be just as Evil and Deplorable as the Worst Toxic Male.
Congratulations.
Conjuay
(2,900 posts)We can't confirm or deny anything she claims about his previous actions because he was a masked and unidentified felon then as well.
flashman13
(2,026 posts)erronis
(22,662 posts)SSJVegeta
(2,322 posts)paleotn
(21,551 posts)It's normal for sane, rational people to think that. Then we quickly discover no, that isn't the case. They're dumber than fucking fence posts. Really, the only thing we have going for us right now.
marble falls
(71,104 posts)paleotn
(21,551 posts)underpants
(194,924 posts)Noem especially. Everythings Miller down to political operatives.
Shipwack
(3,001 posts)However
niyad
(129,571 posts)underpants
(194,924 posts)God this would be hilarious if it wasnt about such a tragic event.
paleotn
(21,551 posts)Gee thanks, Botox moron!!!
Kid Berwyn
(22,968 posts)...what they don't understand...
...who they don't know...
...how it doesn't profit them...
underpants
(194,924 posts)He was so fueled with rage (I mean aside from firing three rounds in the middle of a residential street) that he didnt process that someone was basically in the line of fire?
Kid Berwyn
(22,968 posts)Automatic hate as muscle memory that overrides frontal lobe processing in sending messaging commands. The guy had his hands full, filming the arrest scene with one hand and grabbing his semiautomatic with the other. Think it was Glenn Kirschner who asked if his body cam was on.
vapor2
(3,772 posts)Shooting someone in the head 3 times should land him in jail for years. The continued lawlessness befuddles me
Iggo
(49,654 posts)Kid Berwyn
(22,968 posts)When panic arises, I try to use what critical faculties I can muster to find a way forward.
LOL. Like it helps.
Just Jerome
(434 posts)Now go shit in your hat.
marble falls
(71,104 posts)Bluetus
(2,300 posts)It is a normal size hat. It is just that her brain is so tiny, it looks like the hat is resting on her shoulders.
marble falls
(71,104 posts)W_HAMILTON
(10,073 posts)Cha
(316,794 posts)So he's a Trigger Happy Homicidal Maniac... Needs to be put away in Prison.
TY
marble falls
(71,104 posts)Klarkashton
(4,736 posts)That matters more than his identity I guess.
underpants
(194,924 posts)Is there any actual management at ICE/DHS?
Klarkashton
(4,736 posts)Shooting from the hip. They have been underthinking this thing from the start.
underpants
(194,924 posts)Their hubris makes Dick&W look like hopeful teenagers at a dance.
He cant be wrong. Theres no way he can ever be wrong. Very dangerous.
carpetbagger
(5,411 posts)I said that in more words below.
11 Bravo
(24,279 posts)smoking Corey Lewandowski's pole, and less time murdering Minnesota moms.
Just a thought.
tazcat
(220 posts)Hassler
(4,767 posts)Why should she care about a killer goon when she can easily find another magat goon.
mysteryowl
(8,034 posts)Norbert
(7,567 posts)surfered
(11,551 posts)Ms. Toad
(38,306 posts)I found a different ICE agent who was dragged by a car. That agent killed the driver. (
)SunSeeker
(57,566 posts)But as the video points out, Viegas Gonzalez had no criminal record, just a few speeding tickets, the last one in 2014.
VanceFan
(119 posts)Now make his life hell.
carpetbagger
(5,411 posts)Sounds like this guy had a Shawinigan Handshake moment (look it up, it's pretty funny in that case because the guy lived), a cop in a rogue force with ptsd from his experience and nobody trying to mitigate it, and the guy snapped in a predictable situation.
I will change my opinion about this if evidence shows the guy to be a total bad seed vs. an average bad seed of ICE.
underpants
(194,924 posts)We may never know if he is indeed a bad seed. I kinda hope he is but from what Ive seen , theres quite a culture of violence.
AntiFascist
(13,731 posts)then they will have a better excuse to advance their invasion and ultimately declare martial law. Noem probably wants to put him out there as a pawn.
Gov. Walz has already activated the National Guard. He has talked about using the Guard to protect against "a rogue ICE agent" and has also suggested it may be necessary to use armed guards to protect children at certain schools. Meanwhile, there should be plenty of support for a civil suit in state court against the murderer.
Warpy
(114,389 posts)but one will get her fired while the other will get her appreciated.
Now it's time for people who can see well enough to do the job to search the perp's history for ties to various flavors of fascist good ole boy clubs.
I can foresee a day when putting "ICE Agent" oin a resumé disqualifies them on the spot from any job that allows them to carry a gun.
creon
(1,816 posts)It is a kakistocracy.
A Kasistocracy that is assaultive, vindictive and gormless.
The Blue Flower
(6,355 posts)Stupid is the other side of the coin from incompetent narcissist.