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JONATHAN ROSS IS THE MURDERER!! (Original Post) Coventina 20 hrs ago OP
Paywall. rzemanfl 20 hrs ago #1
He has stitches in his arm from the incident. Ritabert 20 hrs ago #4
So what? He was probably illegally threatening a fleeing citizen. Coventina 20 hrs ago #6
Stiches could have been from him breaking a car window. rzemanfl 20 hrs ago #8
Looks that way. Baitball Blogger 20 hrs ago #19
My post was just a wild assed guess. Did you get past the paywall or find this elsewhere? rzemanfl 19 hrs ago #25
Got it from Berengia down thread. Baitball Blogger 19 hrs ago #28
Thanks. n/t rzemanfl 19 hrs ago #29
What is it with these guys and breaking car windows? PatSeg 19 hrs ago #43
Cry me a fucking river. choie 20 hrs ago #12
I'm not justifying it. I'm saying he's going to claim PTSD. Ritabert 20 hrs ago #17
PTSD is not justification for murdering someone. Wiz Imp 19 hrs ago #36
I have severe PTSD and I never killed anybody.... Teacher of the Year 19 hrs ago #44
Why would an ICE agent with known PTSD be put in that situation neohippie 19 hrs ago #45
If this asshole has PTSD MorbidButterflyTat 18 hrs ago #51
Another article said he smashed the drivers back window womanofthehills 20 hrs ago #18
He also walked in front of a moving vehicle. live love laugh 18 hrs ago #46
Yeah, still alive though nt róisín_dubh 18 hrs ago #47
Why Should We Care? RobinA 20 hrs ago #23
Did you intend to reply to me? n/t rzemanfl 19 hrs ago #27
Here's a non-paywall version tinrobot 19 hrs ago #37
He's going to use his previous dragging incident by a suspect's car Ritabert 20 hrs ago #2
If he's that fucking fragile, he shouldn't be armed. Coventina 20 hrs ago #10
AMEN!!!!!! Stinky The Clown 19 hrs ago #42
So, too much PTSD to do the job right, then? Baitball Blogger 20 hrs ago #15
Yes, but it is illogical to kill a driver of a car that is in gear Ms. Toad 19 hrs ago #26
Right? intrepidity 19 hrs ago #41
So what. MorbidButterflyTat 18 hrs ago #53
I don't think that was defense of him. Susan Calvin 18 hrs ago #57
Well the defense to that argument is hamsterjill 18 hrs ago #58
It's behind a paywall gab13by13 20 hrs ago #3
https://www.startribune.com/ice-agent-who-fatally-shot-woman-in-minneapolis-is-identified/601560214 Ritabert 20 hrs ago #5
I get the paywall too. I just wanted his name out there. n/t Coventina 20 hrs ago #7
Link without paywall Beringia 20 hrs ago #9
Thank you. rzemanfl 19 hrs ago #31
Are we supposed to feel sorry for this thug? choie 20 hrs ago #11
Nope. No iota of sympathy. Give him hell the rest of his miserable life!! Coventina 20 hrs ago #13
I sure as hell don't. USS_Dauntless 20 hrs ago #21
Is it possible to get four paras? Baitball Blogger 20 hrs ago #14
Here: Coventina 20 hrs ago #16
Thank you so much. Baitball Blogger 20 hrs ago #20
Pic from that article canetoad 19 hrs ago #30
Jonathan David Ross, Jonathan David Ross, Jonathan David Rice Sneederbunk 19 hrs ago #35
Shooter had no physical contact with vehicle. madashelltoo 20 hrs ago #22
The article canetoad 19 hrs ago #32
I think you're mixing up incidents KLK1972 19 hrs ago #33
I think you are confusing two incidents, a prior one and yesterday's murder. n/t rzemanfl 19 hrs ago #34
The Unfortunate President said, madashelltoo 18 hrs ago #56
He shouldn't know another moment of comfort for the rest of his life. cab67 18 hrs ago #60
Kick. N/T Upthevibe 20 hrs ago #24
How are they identifying this guy? Are they guessing? FakeNoose 19 hrs ago #38
See the Guardian article. They are REFUSING to identify him. Coventina 19 hrs ago #39
May as well sign off on this one... C Moon 17 hrs ago #63
Nonpaywall link Monsieur_Grumpe 19 hrs ago #40
A PSA to Mr. Ross: As you are one of Trump's flying monkeys, you probably have an idea of how incompetent his admin RedWhiteBlueIsRacist 18 hrs ago #48
If he has a complex about moving cars, he should not have been engaged in the act of video recording. John1956PA 18 hrs ago #49
Another photo of Good's ICE murderer ancianita 18 hrs ago #50
Maybe someone who's afraid of cars Coolgoober 18 hrs ago #52
He has so much PTSD that he turned into an animal MAGA hadEnuf 18 hrs ago #54
May he, and all his enablers, receive everything they deserve. niyad 18 hrs ago #55
He's a "cowboy". We all know what happens to "cowboys" when they push their chips a bit too far. paleotn 18 hrs ago #59
Here is the article. There is a picture too, but I don't know how to post it. mysteryowl 18 hrs ago #61
I think it was a rage shooting! mysteryowl 17 hrs ago #62
Plus being a woman she is suppose to oby his every male command. efhmc 1 hr ago #64

Coventina

(29,172 posts)
6. So what? He was probably illegally threatening a fleeing citizen.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 02:29 PM
20 hrs ago

No sympathy from me!

rzemanfl

(31,131 posts)
8. Stiches could have been from him breaking a car window.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 02:33 PM
20 hrs ago
These people lie all the time.

Baitball Blogger

(51,734 posts)
19. Looks that way.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 02:45 PM
20 hrs ago

" so Ross broke open his rear window and reached inside to unlock the door."

He also got dragged because he broke into the car. This guy lacks common sense.

PatSeg

(52,178 posts)
43. What is it with these guys and breaking car windows?
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 04:08 PM
19 hrs ago

I don't recall seeing regular police doing that or even attempting to open a car door. They're just out-of-control wrecking machines, like ten year old boys playing "cops and robbers".

neohippie

(1,258 posts)
45. Why would an ICE agent with known PTSD be put in that situation
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 04:14 PM
19 hrs ago

Why would you knowingly assign an ICE agent a weapon and put them back in a situation like this when you are aware that they suffer from PTSD. That just seems even more reckless me

Also this shooting appears to violate the DOJ's own policies stated here at this link https://www.justice.gov/jm/1-16000-department-justice-policy-use-force


1-16.200 - USE OF DEADLY FORCE AND PROHIBITED RESTRAINT TECHNIQUES
A. Deadly Force

Law enforcement and correctional officers of the Department of Justice may use deadly force only when necessary, that is, when the officer has a reasonable belief that the subject of such force poses an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to the officer or to another person.

Deadly force may not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing suspect.
Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle. Firearms may not be discharged from a moving vehicle except in exigent circumstances. In these situations, an officer must have an articulable reason for this use of deadly force.
If feasible and if to do so would not increase the danger to the officer or others, a verbal warning to submit to the authority of the officer shall be given prior to the use of deadly force.
Warning shots are not permitted outside of the prison context.
Officers will be trained in alternative methods and tactics for handling resisting subjects, which must be used when the use of deadly force is not authorized by this policy.
Deadly force should not be used against persons whose actions are a threat solely to themselves or property unless an individual poses an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others in close proximity.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,189 posts)
51. If this asshole has PTSD
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 04:37 PM
18 hrs ago

he shouldn't be carrying lethal weapons, cosplaying "law enforcement," or murdering mothers!!

Jeez! there's always somebody with a sob story.

womanofthehills

(10,715 posts)
18. Another article said he smashed the drivers back window
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 02:42 PM
20 hrs ago

That’s why the driver fled. I guess it took him a few to get his bloody arm out of the car.

Coventina

(29,172 posts)
10. If he's that fucking fragile, he shouldn't be armed.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 02:37 PM
20 hrs ago

FUCK ICE!!!

FUCK ALL ICE AGENTS!!!

Ms. Toad

(38,306 posts)
26. Yes, but it is illogical to kill a driver of a car that is in gear
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 03:32 PM
19 hrs ago

If you are afraid of being dragged.

intrepidity

(8,555 posts)
41. Right?
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 04:00 PM
19 hrs ago

I mean, did you see how that car accelerated after she was shot?!?

This is all so infuriating.

hamsterjill

(17,023 posts)
58. Well the defense to that argument is
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:02 PM
18 hrs ago

That Rene Good didn't know he had some previous shit. If he was not fit, his supervisors should not have let him be on duty.

Certainly, he will claim it, but we all know it's bullshit.

gab13by13

(31,239 posts)
3. It's behind a paywall
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 02:26 PM
20 hrs ago

can we have a summary?

I see he was dragged behind a fleeing car last year but who was he working for?

Ritabert

(1,995 posts)
5. https://www.startribune.com/ice-agent-who-fatally-shot-woman-in-minneapolis-is-identified/601560214
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 02:27 PM
20 hrs ago

choie

(6,626 posts)
11. Are we supposed to feel sorry for this thug?
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 02:38 PM
20 hrs ago

He has PTSD so he kills an innocent woman by blowing her face off with three shots? THEN FUCKING GET THE HELL OFF THE FORCE.

Coventina

(29,172 posts)
16. Here:
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 02:42 PM
20 hrs ago

The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent who fatally shot a 37-year-old woman in Minneapolis Wednesday is Jonathan Ross, the same officer who was dragged and injured by a fleeing driver in a separate incident last year, according to a person with knowledge of the case and verified by court documents.

Little public information is available about Ross, described only by federal officials as “an experienced” officer.
On Wednesday morning, Ross was embedded in a group of federal agents on a targeted crackdown in south Minneapolis when Good was shot. ICE has not reported the identity of the shooter and did not respond to request for comment for this story.

A photo of Ross’s face has since circulated social media, as online sleuths have attempted to identify him.
On June 17, 2025, Ross was participating in an arrest of Roberto Carlos Munoz-Guatemala, a Mexican citizen, in Bloomington last year. Munoz had previously been convicted of fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct and had been put on a detainer by immigration officials. Munoz ignored the agents’ commands, including to fully roll down his car window, so Ross broke open his rear window and reached inside to unlock the door.

Munoz put the vehicle in drive and accelerated onto the curb, the charges said. Ross was dragged alongside the vehicle and twice fired his Taser as Munoz weaved back and forth “in an apparent attempt to shake” him from the car. About 300 feet down the road, Munoz re-entered the street and the force knocked the officer from the car.

canetoad

(20,225 posts)
30. Pic from that article
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 03:39 PM
19 hrs ago


The Department of Homeland Security confirmed Thursday that the agent who killed Good was the same officer dragged by a suspect in Bloomington last June. Although Ross was not named in the 13-page indictment of the driver, he is identified in several court records filed in the case, including photo exhibits from the hospital. He is also listed by name as a witness.

A law enforcement source, who is not authorized to speak publicly, confirmed that Ross is the shooter.

Sneederbunk

(17,259 posts)
35. Jonathan David Ross, Jonathan David Ross, Jonathan David Rice
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 03:43 PM
19 hrs ago

Unlike Derek Chauvin, he will walk.

madashelltoo

(1,823 posts)
22. Shooter had no physical contact with vehicle.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 02:50 PM
20 hrs ago

This is a straight up lie to misdirect. We did not even see the agent who had his arm inside the vehicle break the window. The shooter was in front of the car. If the car grazed him, and I don’t think it did, there still would be no cut. Bullshit tales for those who love being lied to.

canetoad

(20,225 posts)
32. The article
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 03:41 PM
19 hrs ago

Speaks about a previous incident when he was 'dragged and injured'. Seems this guy likes to get up close and personal.

KLK1972

(26 posts)
33. I think you're mixing up incidents
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 03:42 PM
19 hrs ago

The arm injury was last year during another car incident, I haven't seen any claims he injured his arm this time.

madashelltoo

(1,823 posts)
56. The Unfortunate President said,
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 04:56 PM
18 hrs ago

“He (the shooter) is now resting comfortably in the hospital.” This is what I was referring to.

FakeNoose

(40,191 posts)
38. How are they identifying this guy? Are they guessing?
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 03:52 PM
19 hrs ago

Not enough of his face is shown in the photo to know his real identity.

Just because some federal agent got dragged and injured in an incident last summer, it doesn't mean this is the same guy. I'm going to hold off until we really know the shooter's name. It should be corroborated by the DHS at least.

Coventina

(29,172 posts)
39. See the Guardian article. They are REFUSING to identify him.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 03:54 PM
19 hrs ago

I trust the local paper and the Guardian.

C Moon

(13,471 posts)
63. May as well sign off on this one...
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:25 PM
17 hrs ago

it’s running on many news sites now including the New York Times and Newsweek and the Guardian.

RedWhiteBlueIsRacist

(1,805 posts)
48. A PSA to Mr. Ross: As you are one of Trump's flying monkeys, you probably have an idea of how incompetent his admin
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 04:31 PM
18 hrs ago

will be in providing you adequate protection. They do everything half-ass and on the cheap. As the old adage goes, may you live in interesting times!

John1956PA

(4,823 posts)
49. If he has a complex about moving cars, he should not have been engaged in the act of video recording.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 04:34 PM
18 hrs ago

He should have been fully concentrating on the risks of a car moving suddenly. By the time he emerged from his reverie regarding his attempt to make the perfect video capture, he was in a disoriented state, and he began firing. For all we know, he was streaming the scene on Facebook to impress his friends.

hadEnuf

(3,527 posts)
54. He has so much PTSD that he turned into an animal MAGA
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 04:43 PM
18 hrs ago

and blew an innocent young woman and mother's head off in her car.

Not buying the PTSD bullshit for one second.

paleotn

(21,551 posts)
59. He's a "cowboy". We all know what happens to "cowboys" when they push their chips a bit too far.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:04 PM
18 hrs ago

mysteryowl

(8,034 posts)
61. Here is the article. There is a picture too, but I don't know how to post it.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:17 PM
18 hrs ago

The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent who fatally shot a 37-year-old woman in Minneapolis on Jan. 7 is Jonathan Ross, the same officer who was dragged and injured by a fleeing driver in a separate incident last year, according to a person with knowledge of the case and verified by court documents.

Little public information is available about Ross, described only by federal officials as “an experienced” officer with more than 10 years at ICE. It’s not immediately clear which field office Ross is based out of.

On Wednesday morning, Ross was embedded with a group of federal agents on a targeted crackdown in south Minneapolis when Renee Nicole Good was shot. A photo of Ross’ face has since circulated on social media, as online sleuths have attempted to identify him.

ICE declined to verify his name when reached for comment on this story.

“He acted according to his training,” Assistant DHS Secretary Tricia McLaughlin told the Star Tribune in an email, noting that this specific agent was selected for ICE’s Special Response Team, is a expert marksman and “has been serving his country his entire life.”

She claimed that their agents have endured a massive surge in assaults and death threats as they conduct their duties.

“The Star Tribune should be absolutely ashamed of themselves for their reckless behavior, and they should delete their story immediately,” she said.

On June 17, Ross was participating in an arrest of Roberto Carlos Munoz-Guatemala, a Mexican citizen, in Bloomington last year. Munoz-Guatemala had previously been convicted of fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct and had been put on a detainer by immigration officials. Munoz-Guatemala ignored the agents’ commands, including to fully roll down his car window, so Ross broke open his rear window and reached inside to unlock the door.

Munoz-Guatemala put the vehicle in drive and accelerated onto the curb, the charges said. Ross was dragged alongside the vehicle and twice fired his Taser as Munoz-Guatemala weaved back and forth “in an apparent attempt to shake” him from the car. About 300 feet down the road, Munoz-Guatemala re-entered the street and the force knocked the officer from the car.

The agent required 20 stitches for a deep cut in his right arm and another 13 stitches in his left hand, according to court documents. A jury convicted Munoz-Guatemala of assaulting a federal officer in December.

Hours after the shooting Wednesday morning, Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem said the agent involved had “been dragged by a vehicle” in an earlier incident. At the time, she did not provide specific location details.

But she described the unnamed officer as “an experienced” agent who’d been in similar situations before and “followed his training.”

The Department of Homeland Security confirmed Thursday that the agent who killed Good was the same officer dragged by a suspect in Bloomington last June. Although Ross was not named in the 13-page indictment of the driver, he is identified in several court records filed in the case, including photo exhibits from the hospital. He is also listed by name as a witness and in the jury instructions.

A law enforcement source, who is not authorized to speak publicly, confirmed that Ross is the shooter.

Vice President JD Vance took questions at the White House on Thursday afternoon, announcing a new associate attorney general to oversee fraud — with a mission that will begin in Minnesota.

He also defended the agent’s actions.

“That very ICE officer nearly had his life ended … six months ago,” Vance said, referring to the earlier car-dragging incident.

“You think maybe he’s a little bit sensitive about somebody ramming him?”

Asked about Gov. Tim Walz’s comments that the Trump administration’s escalation of ICE agents amplified and led to the shooting, Vance dismissed his former vice presidential opponent.

“I don’t care what Tim Walz says,” Vance said.

Chris Vondracek and Jeff Day of the Minnesota Star Tribune contributed to this story.

mysteryowl

(8,034 posts)
62. I think it was a rage shooting!
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:22 PM
17 hrs ago

He was enraged trying to control her and couldn't.

Rage often comes out as an instant response. He so quickly without any hesitation shot her 3 times.

RAGE KILLING

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