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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJONATHAN ROSS IS THE MURDERER!!
https://www.startribune.com/ice-agent-who-fatally-shot-woman-in-minneapolis-is-identified/601560214rzemanfl
(31,131 posts)He says he was dragged last year. Why should we believe that?
Ritabert
(1,995 posts)Coventina
(29,172 posts)No sympathy from me!
rzemanfl
(31,131 posts)Baitball Blogger
(51,734 posts)" so Ross broke open his rear window and reached inside to unlock the door."
He also got dragged because he broke into the car. This guy lacks common sense.
rzemanfl
(31,131 posts)Baitball Blogger
(51,734 posts)rzemanfl
(31,131 posts)PatSeg
(52,178 posts)I don't recall seeing regular police doing that or even attempting to open a car door. They're just out-of-control wrecking machines, like ten year old boys playing "cops and robbers".
choie
(6,626 posts)Ritabert
(1,995 posts)Wiz Imp
(8,994 posts)Last edited Thu Jan 8, 2026, 04:23 PM - Edit history (1)
Teacher of the Year
(224 posts)just sayin'
neohippie
(1,258 posts)Why would you knowingly assign an ICE agent a weapon and put them back in a situation like this when you are aware that they suffer from PTSD. That just seems even more reckless me
Also this shooting appears to violate the DOJ's own policies stated here at this link https://www.justice.gov/jm/1-16000-department-justice-policy-use-force
1-16.200 - USE OF DEADLY FORCE AND PROHIBITED RESTRAINT TECHNIQUES
A. Deadly Force
Law enforcement and correctional officers of the Department of Justice may use deadly force only when necessary, that is, when the officer has a reasonable belief that the subject of such force poses an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to the officer or to another person.
Deadly force may not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing suspect.
Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle. Firearms may not be discharged from a moving vehicle except in exigent circumstances. In these situations, an officer must have an articulable reason for this use of deadly force.
If feasible and if to do so would not increase the danger to the officer or others, a verbal warning to submit to the authority of the officer shall be given prior to the use of deadly force.
Warning shots are not permitted outside of the prison context.
Officers will be trained in alternative methods and tactics for handling resisting subjects, which must be used when the use of deadly force is not authorized by this policy.
Deadly force should not be used against persons whose actions are a threat solely to themselves or property unless an individual poses an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others in close proximity.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,189 posts)he shouldn't be carrying lethal weapons, cosplaying "law enforcement," or murdering mothers!!
Jeez! there's always somebody with a sob story.
womanofthehills
(10,715 posts)Thats why the driver fled. I guess it took him a few to get his bloody arm out of the car.
live love laugh
(16,203 posts)róisín_dubh
(12,231 posts)RobinA
(10,471 posts)What does that have to do with this incident?
rzemanfl
(31,131 posts)tinrobot
(11,952 posts)Ritabert
(1,995 posts)...as an excuse.
Coventina
(29,172 posts)FUCK ICE!!!
FUCK ALL ICE AGENTS!!!
Stinky The Clown
(68,924 posts)Rec
Baitball Blogger
(51,734 posts)Ms. Toad
(38,306 posts)If you are afraid of being dragged.
intrepidity
(8,555 posts)I mean, did you see how that car accelerated after she was shot?!?
This is all so infuriating.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,189 posts)You sound like his defense attorney.
Susan Calvin
(2,403 posts)I think it was a statement of his probable actions.
hamsterjill
(17,023 posts)That Rene Good didn't know he had some previous shit. If he was not fit, his supervisors should not have let him be on duty.
Certainly, he will claim it, but we all know it's bullshit.
gab13by13
(31,239 posts)can we have a summary?
I see he was dragged behind a fleeing car last year but who was he working for?
Ritabert
(1,995 posts)Coventina
(29,172 posts)Beringia
(5,344 posts)rzemanfl
(31,131 posts)choie
(6,626 posts)He has PTSD so he kills an innocent woman by blowing her face off with three shots? THEN FUCKING GET THE HELL OFF THE FORCE.
Coventina
(29,172 posts)USS_Dauntless
(219 posts)Baitball Blogger
(51,734 posts)There seems to be a paywall.
Coventina
(29,172 posts)The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent who fatally shot a 37-year-old woman in Minneapolis Wednesday is Jonathan Ross, the same officer who was dragged and injured by a fleeing driver in a separate incident last year, according to a person with knowledge of the case and verified by court documents.
Little public information is available about Ross, described only by federal officials as an experienced officer.
On Wednesday morning, Ross was embedded in a group of federal agents on a targeted crackdown in south Minneapolis when Good was shot. ICE has not reported the identity of the shooter and did not respond to request for comment for this story.
A photo of Rosss face has since circulated social media, as online sleuths have attempted to identify him.
On June 17, 2025, Ross was participating in an arrest of Roberto Carlos Munoz-Guatemala, a Mexican citizen, in Bloomington last year. Munoz had previously been convicted of fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct and had been put on a detainer by immigration officials. Munoz ignored the agents commands, including to fully roll down his car window, so Ross broke open his rear window and reached inside to unlock the door.
Munoz put the vehicle in drive and accelerated onto the curb, the charges said. Ross was dragged alongside the vehicle and twice fired his Taser as Munoz weaved back and forth in an apparent attempt to shake him from the car. About 300 feet down the road, Munoz re-entered the street and the force knocked the officer from the car.
Baitball Blogger
(51,734 posts)canetoad
(20,225 posts)
The Department of Homeland Security confirmed Thursday that the agent who killed Good was the same officer dragged by a suspect in Bloomington last June. Although Ross was not named in the 13-page indictment of the driver, he is identified in several court records filed in the case, including photo exhibits from the hospital. He is also listed by name as a witness.
A law enforcement source, who is not authorized to speak publicly, confirmed that Ross is the shooter.
Sneederbunk
(17,259 posts)Unlike Derek Chauvin, he will walk.
madashelltoo
(1,823 posts)This is a straight up lie to misdirect. We did not even see the agent who had his arm inside the vehicle break the window. The shooter was in front of the car. If the car grazed him, and I dont think it did, there still would be no cut. Bullshit tales for those who love being lied to.
canetoad
(20,225 posts)Speaks about a previous incident when he was 'dragged and injured'. Seems this guy likes to get up close and personal.
KLK1972
(26 posts)The arm injury was last year during another car incident, I haven't seen any claims he injured his arm this time.
rzemanfl
(31,131 posts)madashelltoo
(1,823 posts)He (the shooter) is now resting comfortably in the hospital. This is what I was referring to.
cab67
(3,636 posts)Upthevibe
(10,026 posts)FakeNoose
(40,191 posts)Not enough of his face is shown in the photo to know his real identity.
Just because some federal agent got dragged and injured in an incident last summer, it doesn't mean this is the same guy. I'm going to hold off until we really know the shooter's name. It should be corroborated by the DHS at least.
Coventina
(29,172 posts)I trust the local paper and the Guardian.
C Moon
(13,471 posts)its running on many news sites now including the New York Times and Newsweek and the Guardian.
Monsieur_Grumpe
(169 posts)RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(1,805 posts)will be in providing you adequate protection. They do everything half-ass and on the cheap. As the old adage goes, may you live in interesting times!
John1956PA
(4,823 posts)He should have been fully concentrating on the risks of a car moving suddenly. By the time he emerged from his reverie regarding his attempt to make the perfect video capture, he was in a disoriented state, and he began firing. For all we know, he was streaming the scene on Facebook to impress his friends.
ancianita
(42,900 posts)
Coolgoober
(233 posts)SHOULDN'T BE NEAR FUCKING CARS. WHAT A PIECE OF SHIT!
hadEnuf
(3,527 posts)and blew an innocent young woman and mother's head off in her car.
Not buying the PTSD bullshit for one second.
niyad
(129,571 posts)paleotn
(21,551 posts)mysteryowl
(8,034 posts)The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent who fatally shot a 37-year-old woman in Minneapolis on Jan. 7 is Jonathan Ross, the same officer who was dragged and injured by a fleeing driver in a separate incident last year, according to a person with knowledge of the case and verified by court documents.
Little public information is available about Ross, described only by federal officials as an experienced officer with more than 10 years at ICE. Its not immediately clear which field office Ross is based out of.
On Wednesday morning, Ross was embedded with a group of federal agents on a targeted crackdown in south Minneapolis when Renee Nicole Good was shot. A photo of Ross face has since circulated on social media, as online sleuths have attempted to identify him.
ICE declined to verify his name when reached for comment on this story.
He acted according to his training, Assistant DHS Secretary Tricia McLaughlin told the Star Tribune in an email, noting that this specific agent was selected for ICEs Special Response Team, is a expert marksman and has been serving his country his entire life.
She claimed that their agents have endured a massive surge in assaults and death threats as they conduct their duties.
The Star Tribune should be absolutely ashamed of themselves for their reckless behavior, and they should delete their story immediately, she said.
On June 17, Ross was participating in an arrest of Roberto Carlos Munoz-Guatemala, a Mexican citizen, in Bloomington last year. Munoz-Guatemala had previously been convicted of fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct and had been put on a detainer by immigration officials. Munoz-Guatemala ignored the agents commands, including to fully roll down his car window, so Ross broke open his rear window and reached inside to unlock the door.
Munoz-Guatemala put the vehicle in drive and accelerated onto the curb, the charges said. Ross was dragged alongside the vehicle and twice fired his Taser as Munoz-Guatemala weaved back and forth in an apparent attempt to shake him from the car. About 300 feet down the road, Munoz-Guatemala re-entered the street and the force knocked the officer from the car.
The agent required 20 stitches for a deep cut in his right arm and another 13 stitches in his left hand, according to court documents. A jury convicted Munoz-Guatemala of assaulting a federal officer in December.
Hours after the shooting Wednesday morning, Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem said the agent involved had been dragged by a vehicle in an earlier incident. At the time, she did not provide specific location details.
But she described the unnamed officer as an experienced agent whod been in similar situations before and followed his training.
The Department of Homeland Security confirmed Thursday that the agent who killed Good was the same officer dragged by a suspect in Bloomington last June. Although Ross was not named in the 13-page indictment of the driver, he is identified in several court records filed in the case, including photo exhibits from the hospital. He is also listed by name as a witness and in the jury instructions.
A law enforcement source, who is not authorized to speak publicly, confirmed that Ross is the shooter.
Vice President JD Vance took questions at the White House on Thursday afternoon, announcing a new associate attorney general to oversee fraud with a mission that will begin in Minnesota.
He also defended the agents actions.
That very ICE officer nearly had his life ended
six months ago, Vance said, referring to the earlier car-dragging incident.
You think maybe hes a little bit sensitive about somebody ramming him?
Asked about Gov. Tim Walzs comments that the Trump administrations escalation of ICE agents amplified and led to the shooting, Vance dismissed his former vice presidential opponent.
I dont care what Tim Walz says, Vance said.
Chris Vondracek and Jeff Day of the Minnesota Star Tribune contributed to this story.
mysteryowl
(8,034 posts)He was enraged trying to control her and couldn't.
Rage often comes out as an instant response. He so quickly without any hesitation shot her 3 times.
RAGE KILLING