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?t=61A refreshing insight in our life.....
FHRRK
(1,356 posts)And I got cheated, I only recall two hours of decent Saturday morning cartoons.
multigraincracker
(36,887 posts)Have to watch soap operas. Rather be at school.
highplainsdem
(59,719 posts)different styles of AI art and narration by different AI voices. Lots of channels like this all over YouTube, set up in the last several months.
NotHardly
(2,577 posts)bucolic_frolic
(53,870 posts)and it's the last time those values were part of life's lessons. The 80s and 90s were too soft, progress without obstacles was the goal. And now people can't think because their minds are streamed by the digital age.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(28,447 posts)is that no one is overweight.
ananda
(34,324 posts)active and outside playing every chance we got.
Martin Eden
(15,326 posts)Born in 1957, growing up on the SW outskirts of Chicago near Midway Airport, my parents seldom knew where I was or what I was up to.
These days, perhaps more so in the middle class suburbs where I now live, most parents feel they HAVE TO know at all times where their kids are and what they're doing.
On summer days I was usually at the park playing softball (Chicago 16" with no gloves) but I roamed around quite a bit as well.
OAITW r.2.0
(31,402 posts)But loved the game. We'd play till sunset and whoever was ahead, won. Probably played in a few hundred of these games.
Walleye
(43,730 posts)Misogyny is another lesson. You learned the hard way.
CanonRay
(15,920 posts)Dinner and back out. Always a boatload ok kids to get a game up.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,202 posts)This shit is so insidious.
OAITW r.2.0
(31,402 posts)Give me a fucking break. All Americans born in the 50s lived through this. We realized skin color would not save us in a nuke blast. Kinda changed my thinking.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,202 posts)about anyone, no matter their generation. Whats illegitimate is the implication of exceptionalism among generations and uniformity of experience/results.
OAITW r.2.0
(31,402 posts)I-m stuck in 4 dimensions....
Orrex
(66,625 posts)...said every generation ever.
It's the essence of "okay, Boomer" thinking.
1WorldHope
(1,840 posts)It felt like I was being manipulated into thinking my life time was special. And I wondered what comes next.
FakeNoose
(40,053 posts)However he's trying to appeal to American viewers, so they've thrown in photos and stories from the US also.
They're not going to photoshop in the black folks if they weren't in the actual, original snapshots and videos.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(28,447 posts)be no black people in a video made then.
And just in case the entire video is AI nonsense, simply find other old videos of real people then. Or look at a high school yearbook from 1965. That's the year I graduated high school, and I could name the two or three fat people in my class, and that version of fat wasn't remotely obese.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,202 posts)graphics, and Black people have been erased. As I say, it's insidious.
Walleye
(43,730 posts)And there were only three or four black kids in my class. And they were plenty of racist around. And watch the old TV shows anything from late 50s early 60s you wont see a black person.
a kennedy
(35,228 posts)We always had to physically get up off the chair to turn the channel on the 3 networks that our tvs carried. Now??? We hit a button.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(28,447 posts)those three or four feet, enough to eliminate obesity, right?
The real problem is more likely no PE in school.
a kennedy
(35,228 posts)Lotsa steps. And is there a little machine that you can ride while youre sitting??? Oh my yes there is. And PE in school would be a huge help too.
OAITW r.2.0
(31,402 posts)Never played organized baseball, but played many games, pick up. Does this still happen?
mainer
(12,490 posts)At least it did when I grew up in the 60's. I hated it.
Tree Lady
(12,979 posts)Showers and no time to dry hair.
Diamond_Dog
(39,694 posts)And a food supply riddled with chemicals and additives to make junk food addictive and cheap.
moonscape
(5,632 posts)we got exercise, but popping up and down to stop the horizontal scrolling!
OldBaldy1701E
(10,050 posts)But it is the fact that nowadays most of us do not have to do the vast majority of what our ancestors had to do just to survive.
Most of us do not worry about survival. That is the biggest thing that created the issues with our bodies as well as society.
valleyrogue
(2,547 posts)Diet pill abuse was rampant back then, especially by women. The "diet" industry was HUGE then with products like Metrical and Ayds selling briskly.
Girls were pressured to be skinny and as small as possible so as to attract men and get married young, preferably right out of high school. They were fat-shamed by disgusting, judgmental, and shallow mothers to be thin and "marriageable." Both girls and boys were relentlessly bullied by their peers because their peers were raised with disgusting, shallow values to hate on people different from themselves.
I work in the schools and have for around three decades. There really isn't an "increase" of "overweight" kids in those schools than when I was a kid. What ISN'T tolerated is teasing, bullying, and shaming those kids.
mtngirl47
(1,206 posts)Well, the only fast food was a PB&J sandwich!
As a child the only time we went to a restaurant was a very special occasion. We took our lunches to school, and we even took picnics when we went on trips.
We didn't have soda....I remember that if my parents went out on a Saturday night, the babysitter was told that we could split two cokes between the four of us and that she could have a whole one.
We had to clean our plates but it wasn't the over processed stuff that we all have now.
valleyrogue
(2,547 posts)Don't think for one minute people were "naturally skinny." That didn't happen. There were plenty of overweight kids back then, and they were relentlessly bullied.
MoonlightHillFarm
(79 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(26,202 posts)Hard to see how this isn't like a two-bit horoscope telling people what they want to hear tbh. I mean lol come on:
almost eerie calm. Or maybe it's that peculiar blend of optimism and pragmatism that seems hardwired into their very being.
OAITW r.2.0
(31,402 posts)Could be AI, but that doesn't mean it's wrong.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,202 posts)highplainsdem
(59,719 posts)property. And it takes attention away from what's created by humans. I don't think you'd post AI music from tools trained on stolen music. This is just as fake.
OAITW r.2.0
(31,402 posts)I don't disagree. But I found the content real,,,,,as much as I can remember living this timeframe.
progressoid
(52,524 posts)Slightly different wording, same slop.
IcyPeas
(24,798 posts)It says their channel only started in October.
I did a search in YouTube for "psychology of people who grew up in the 1960s" interestingly there are a lot of videos that come up. Curiously all uploaded within the past couple of weeks. They are of different lengths and the graphics are different.... but weird. AI like you said.
I was listening to the words and noticed when he was saying "record" as in to record a song off the radio, he pronounced it "record" as in vinyl record. So i figured it was AI. If you listen to the other similar videos the voices are similar to downright funny. E.g., sounds like Edward g. Robinson:
And look at the name of the channel in the video below Hyde Saves Jekyll with the same content as When Jekyll meets Hyde. All recent uploads. Right?
Also very similar videos from ...70s, ...80s....., 90s . There's a slew of them. Copy and paste with some updates. Not much diversity.
Were actual psychologists consulted for this content? Or just ChatGpt? AI has just begun ..
So I wonder too where things like this originate. AI content with slight changes here and there? Do you think this is one creator making different channels for getting clicks and dollars? Or people copying content for their own channel? I guess it's not illegal to create multiple channels.
highplainsdem
(59,719 posts)in other countries.
I doubt any real experts were consulted for this type of AI video.
It's already a flood of slop, but a lot if data on what people like or fall for is also being gathered, and that data is likely to be sold and used in the future. What hooked someone on this video could be used in an ad aimed at voters of the same age.
And most of these channels ask for donations, as this one does.
multigraincracker
(36,887 posts)Thats us.
3catwoman3
(28,519 posts)and remember calculating how long it would take for me to afford to buy a horse. It never came to pass.
highplainsdem
(59,719 posts)of garbage is all over YouTube now. AI slop art in different styles, fake expertise, AI narration in a variety of fake voices, and videos cobbled together by AI and posted every day or two. This channel uploaded 7 videos between Dec. 11 and Dec. 20. Some of these AI channels soon start posting multiple videos a day as they get their formula down pat and figure out which clickbait works best. There's no real expertise here and some of these channels are from foreign content farms, not the US. This one is requesting donations through Buy Me A Coffee.
canetoad
(20,125 posts)I didn't investigate that far.
It looks like AI will provide any and all validation you would like. Sad.
chia
(2,744 posts)3825-87867
(1,789 posts)THEIR era, have no basis for judgement. Just as we who did live through it can not really relate to what OUR parents lived through during the 20s and 30s.
Feelings get hurt by succeeding generations who don't understand how much better each succeeding generation has it.
I would love to have grown up today with all the new technology and not have to put up with the problems we had which of, course are never as bad as current generations.
Keepthesoulalive
(2,104 posts)Conjuay
(2,876 posts)I remember A LOT of heavy drinking men, who never really 'came home from the war'.
The rage against women was accepted as normal- remember how Ralph Cramden would wave his fist around and threaten "TO THE MOON, ALICE!" played over a laugh track?
Of course not.
One girl in my glass showed up with TWO black eyes.
Were the cops ever called?
How about Child Protective Services?
Did the teacher intercede?
Nope.
Anyone who wants to buy into this DrPhil-osophy, go right ahead, but it wasn't the golden age depicted:
AND EVEN IF it was so perfect in 'boomer times'- why are so many hateful, bigoted, INSANE boomers running around now, cheering a madman like trump?
OAITW r.2.0
(31,402 posts)suicided in lock-up in 1962
thucythucy
(9,042 posts)sexual abuse of children--and not just by billionaires--but by parents, older kids, ministers and priests--with absolutely no recourse for the victims.
No rape crisis centers.
No understanding of rape trauma syndrome or sympathy for survivors.
Then too: rampant, out in the open homophobia, and god help any kid labeled gay, whether or not it was true.
Not that any of these problems have gone away, but at least they're seen--by some of us anyway--as problems.
I'm always skeptical of "good old days" mythology. Scratch the surface of any era and you'll find the same old atrocities, more or less well hidden, and often completely denied.
canetoad
(20,125 posts)If intergenerational comparisons are a productive excercise.
I'm a classic product of the boomer gen (b. 1954), Never, ever did a nuke excercise but I grew up in the UK.
The accent is Brit, but I suspect this is an American AI product. It's very flattering to boomers which is unusual; looking for boomer clicks?
BarbD
(1,366 posts)Life was not that much better back then, it was just different. People still have the same basic needs and we need one another. Born in 1937 with a childhood in the 1940's and a teen in the 1950's.
We need to acknowledge the truth of history and not sanitize it. We are always learning and adjusting. That's life.
Celerity
(53,571 posts)H2O Man
(78,545 posts)Recommended for the OP and discussion.
I got older in the '60s, though one could argue that I've never given up. Thus, I found this interesting, and having some good information. I do think it might fit white, middle class kids from that era, but not so much for many -- perhaps most -- minority and low-income kids. And I think that in some areas, there may be some errors. For example, those who grew up during the Great Depression knew the value of pennies and mastered delayed gratification. It left off Malcolm X and Muhammad Ali, too,
There are, exactly as it notes, differences between kids then and now. However, I remember a study of college students in the mid-'70s, indicating the majority said being alone for a weekend, with nothing but books, would be very difficult. Stereos and televions were considered essential then. Cell phones are more so today, but the idea is the same.
I shall end by telling about a second grade "tuck your head" in the hallway, rather than under our desks. A classmate I'll call Bob was so anxious he shit his pants. This made the next kid puke, and then a girl a few kids away puked as well. This remains etched in my memory, as if Bob's shit and the other two's puke were an uncanny prediction of the felon, Stephen Miller, and Steve Bannon being in and around the White House.
Historic NY
(39,593 posts)both of my parent were deceased by the time I was 12. My twin and I left an abusive step-mother.. We just walked out the door and never went back for anything. We changed schools a couple of times. An aunt and uncle took us in and meager SS survivor checks helped pay for food and cloths. We both worked from 12 forward and we involved in the community. I put myself through college and bought my own vehicles. My father was a WWII Vet and some of his pals looked after us. We always had one or two for advice. It wasn't easy, things were hard.
The Wizard
(13,568 posts)the nuclear weapons threat determines much of how we view the world and where we see ourselves in it.
BH liberal
(103 posts)in a very small town in the Midwest. Can relate to the post above about kids roaming loose from breakfast to dinnertime, especially during the summers. We did all sorts of things that seem to be pretty rare now with the proliferation of helicopter parents terrified at the prospect of their children being snatched from playgrounds and swimming pools. Sports and physical activities were our main focus...all the levels of youth baseball, for example, that allowed for all skill levels to participate. Very few overweight kids at all...and, yes, they did at least get teased to no end or worse.
Our school was never very big on duck and cover drills, and I think the focus was as much on tornado protection as nuclear. One of our neighbors had a bomb shelter in their basement, but I was never curious enough about it to ask to see it. For many of us, our parents' relationship with alcohol was a greater source of anxiety. Not much to do for them in our small town...only a bowling alley, movie theater and a dozen or so bars and restaurants that served liquor within a 10 mile radius. Private parties on weekends centered around drinking were also popular. In fact, one of my first-ever memories was reaching up as far as I could on my tip-toes to grab off the kitchen counter a glass full of what I thought was Coca-Cola and taking a drink. Turned out to be booze and I gagged on it.
Most of my uncles served in WWII, yet I never heard one war story from them. One survived D-Day and subsequent duty in France and another participated in a handful of the Pacific island-hopping landings and survived them all. Alcohol became a big part of their lives as well. I started work at 12 years old in a grocery store for 25 cents an hour after school and on Saturdays 7 AM to 7PM. Watching what was happening all around me made me want to become independent as soon as possible. Bought my own used car at 15 and worked summers on vacation fill-in jobs on the railroad that my father found for me. Got out of there at 18, worked my way through college and rarely returned.
That was my 50's and 60's experience...
cachukis
(3,637 posts)we see it as just a modern approach to telling a story. We all have critical eyes and ears and some of us appreciate the sentiments while others see something else.
Someone pointed out that many of these same boomers support trump.
The New York Post presents their version of the truth as does the NYT. It is all an attempt to inform and share a world view.
Ken Burns' piece on the revolution depicted the war as a seminal event, but did it really describe the real revolution that came before; the actual philosophical change of the minds of English men to Americans?
AI is here. It will get better and trashing it will continue, but not everyone using it is out to get us anymore than media outlets want our clicks.
Ocelot II
(128,902 posts)Yes, we did the duck-and-cover thing, and there were scary movies about nuclear war - there was a chilling show on TV, maybe it was a made for tv movie, called Alas, Babylon that I still remember. A neighbor even built a bomb shelter. There were sonic booms that would startle the hell out of us. But we also did kid stuff and didn't think about those things all the time. We were free-range kids who were left pretty much to our own devices - go out and play with your friends, don't go too far, come in when it gets dark. Here's a quarter, go to the bakery and buy a loaf of bread and bring back the change. I saw the Beatles on Ed Sullivan but didn't think they were earth-shattering. I remember the civil rights marches, the assassinations of JFK, RFK and MLK, the Vietnam war body counts on TV. A lot of consequential shit happened during the '60s but a lot of shit always happens. You are always affected by whatever it is you grew up with. Maybe handling real money and being left unsupervised most of the time made us more independent; I don't know. It didn't necessarily make us better people, though. Some of us grew up to be assholes. The analysis is shallow, probably AI.
ThreeNoSeep
(269 posts)At the very least, the video makers should disclose how they used AI in the video. The OP, if they reasonably suspect it is AI, should also disclose that suspicion if the makers did not.
Turbineguy
(39,810 posts)they elected trump. Well, enough of them did.