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LetMyPeopleVote

(174,383 posts)
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 09:58 AM Yesterday

'Hugely consequential': Experts say Supreme Court just wrecked Trump's plans

I admit that I was surprised by this ruling. SCOTUS may be waking up as to trump's misuse of the military.

'Hugely consequential': Experts say Supreme Court just wrecked Trump's plans

www.rawstory.com/supreme-cour...

Michael Byron #Fella (@michaelby.bsky.social) 2025-12-24T02:30:22.213Z

https://www.rawstory.com/supreme-court-2674826050/

President Donald Trump got a rare and devastating blow at the Supreme Court on Tuesday, as three right-wing justices joined with the three liberals to deny a stay of a lower court ruling that prevents him from federalizing the National Guard to deploy troops to Chicago — and said the administration is unlikely to prevail when the case is litigated on the merits.....

"The Supreme Court just agreed: President Trump violated the law by deploying the National Guard in Illinois," wrote New Jersey Attorney General Matt Platkin. "Proud to stand with @ILAttyGeneral [and] my colleagues in successfully opposing this unnecessary and unlawful deployment."

Yet another key analysis came from American Immigration Council senior fellow Aaron Reichlin-Melnick, a lawyer who has frequently criticized the Trump administration's immigration policy.

"Wow. Genuinely shocked, and a hugely consequential decision. This is a case where [law professor] Marty Lederman's amicus brief appears to have made a MAJOR impact. Before he wrote it, courts were sidestepping the 'regular forces' issue entirely. And that's what the Trump admin lost on," wrote Reichlin-Melnick. "The law Trump used to federalize the National Guard requires him to be 'unable with the regular forces to execute the laws of the United States.' The Court today agrees with Professor Lederman that 'regular forces' means the U.S. military, which used to be called 'the regulars.'"

"There are other laws which permit the President to call up the National Guard, the most famous of which is the Insurrection Act. But Trump has not invoked that law. Instead, he invoked a law which had strict prerequisites, which the Supreme Court ruled were not met," wrote Reichlin-Melnick. Additionally, "the majority finds at this stage that the President does not have inherent authority to deploy the military to protect ICE property, therefore allowing him to 'execute' the laws with the military. The majority says no."
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'Hugely consequential': Experts say Supreme Court just wrecked Trump's plans (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday OP
They'll just send in more ICE goons... johnnyplankton Yesterday #1
Yea popsdenver 18 hrs ago #24
The Sick Fuck BlueMTexpat Yesterday #2
I would hope that the Supreme Court is waking up to their stupid decision to give Trump immunity for most actions. Lonestarblue Yesterday #3
well, yes. but a completely different issue (of course) stopdiggin Yesterday #4
Well immunity gives him the ability Farmer-Rick 9 hrs ago #33
non sequitur. that is not what 'immunity' means - nor what the court said. stopdiggin 3 hrs ago #36
The Supreme Court hasn't ruled yet on Trump's global tariffs. sop Yesterday #5
If SCOTUS goes against Trump on the tariffs.... RussBLib Yesterday #7
Promise? vapor2 20 hrs ago #19
no RussBLib 20 hrs ago #20
The Republican Party popsdenver 18 hrs ago #25
Yes. Although Steve Miller and Russell Vought already use Project 2025 as a day-to-day game plan... Mister Ed 13 hrs ago #29
BINGO........M.E. popsdenver 5 hrs ago #35
Either way Akakoji 11 hrs ago #31
This received very little coverage on M$Greedia malaise Yesterday #6
on Wed., 12-12:30 NJCher Yesterday #8
True - but it was barely mentioned in Prime Time malaise Yesterday #12
2 of the 3 major networks covered it RussBLib 20 hrs ago #22
Precisely malaise 11 hrs ago #30
CBS News reported it online. Thats where I saw it Callie1979 20 hrs ago #23
In the dissent: Chellee Yesterday #9
There you have it Mysterian Yesterday #13
I was sure that 2 of them were Alito and Thomas and was not disappointed there! ShazzieB 22 hrs ago #15
Good news. Martin68 Yesterday #10
So I expect he will invoke the insurrection act very soon. Bev54 Yesterday #11
They always do -- for him. live love laugh 21 hrs ago #18
This decision could impact Trump's ability to deploy national guard to other states LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #14
Yeah, Psycho PEDO's fucking Cha 22 hrs ago #17
Uh oh.. mountain grammy 22 hrs ago #16
Negotiating time lame54 20 hrs ago #21
K&R spanone 18 hrs ago #26
He needs to be stopped in regards to Greenland. C Moon 18 hrs ago #27
As if he cares JoseBalow 15 hrs ago #28
I know... weird, isn't it? OldBaldy1701E 10 hrs ago #32
"... no one seems capable of stopping this crap." JoseBalow 6 hrs ago #34

popsdenver

(1,438 posts)
24. Yea
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 11:10 PM
18 hrs ago

or just send them to other cities.............

In addition to amassing an even bigger military presence off shore of some sovereign nation that has done NOTHING WRONG.....

Lonestarblue

(13,199 posts)
3. I would hope that the Supreme Court is waking up to their stupid decision to give Trump immunity for most actions.
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 11:48 AM
Yesterday

He has interpreted that decision as him being above the law and free to do whatever he wants.

stopdiggin

(14,929 posts)
4. well, yes. but a completely different issue (of course)
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 11:58 AM
Yesterday

Last edited Thu Dec 25, 2025, 02:24 PM - Edit history (1)

Here the administration argues that the president has the power and every right ..
(and nothing to do with immunity)

Farmer-Rick

(12,409 posts)
33. Well immunity gives him the ability
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 08:23 AM
9 hrs ago

To ignore any ruling the Supremes spit out without repercussions. What happens to the pedo if he violated all the rulings of the Supremes? The answer is Nothing. He has immunity to everything. No one can hold him accountable so why not just act out his every whim?

The only thing that remains that might hold the pedo accountable would be impeachment.

stopdiggin

(14,929 posts)
36. non sequitur. that is not what 'immunity' means - nor what the court said.
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 02:34 PM
3 hrs ago

Plus it is logically inconsistent. If you ignore court rulings (intentionally) - then immunity de facto has become an irrelevancy. It is only when you are constrained by the court and its rulings - that immunity means anything.

(And it should go without saying - that the court has NEVER said that the executive (or president) may ignore court rulings.)

RussBLib

(10,415 posts)
20. no
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 09:22 PM
20 hrs ago

I did say "I think...."

That orange fucker is going down, however (eventually! lol)

popsdenver

(1,438 posts)
25. The Republican Party
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 11:13 PM
18 hrs ago

would love to get rid of Trump. They just want to not lose all his Trumphumper 70 Million voters.
They would much rather install Steve Miller AND Russell Vought and have them use the 2025 document as a day by day game plan.......

Mister Ed

(6,791 posts)
29. Yes. Although Steve Miller and Russell Vought already use Project 2025 as a day-to-day game plan...
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 04:10 AM
13 hrs ago

...the GOP would rather have someone doing that directly, rather than having to do it through the unstable and erratic Trump.

malaise

(292,299 posts)
12. True - but it was barely mentioned in Prime Time
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 12:51 PM
Yesterday

I saw it when the news broke

🎄🎄🎄

RussBLib

(10,415 posts)
22. 2 of the 3 major networks covered it
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 09:29 PM
20 hrs ago

I record ABC, CBS, and NBC Nightly News on the DVR and (usually) play them back shortly after recording. I'm pretty sure that ABC and NBC covered it. ABC even previewed it, NBC just snuck the story in without a preview, and CBS didn't mention it at all. Not surprising, I guess, considering the recent stomach-turning events at CBS. Still, it was only "reported" with no editorial comment.

Chellee

(2,281 posts)
9. In the dissent:
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 12:35 PM
Yesterday

Alito, Thomas, Gorsuch.

Just so you know who does believe that the military should be roaming the streets of American cities.

ShazzieB

(22,153 posts)
15. I was sure that 2 of them were Alito and Thomas and was not disappointed there!
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 07:15 PM
22 hrs ago

This means that the "supermajority" split 3-3 over this. It's good to see them not acting as a monolith for once.

Bev54

(13,156 posts)
11. So I expect he will invoke the insurrection act very soon.
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 12:48 PM
Yesterday

SCOTUS guided him on the way to go.

Cha

(316,457 posts)
17. Yeah, Psycho PEDO's fucking
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 07:40 PM
22 hrs ago

agenda is Destroying America.. unless we STOPO him & Nazi boy Miller and Couch boy Vance.

mountain grammy

(28,628 posts)
16. Uh oh..
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 07:24 PM
22 hrs ago

now I fear for the 14th Amendment. They always follow a sane ruling with absolute insanity.

JoseBalow

(9,094 posts)
28. As if he cares
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 02:58 AM
15 hrs ago

Give me a break. Those douchebags gave him immunity, he'll keep doing whatever he wants. Who's going to stop him?

OldBaldy1701E

(10,001 posts)
32. I know... weird, isn't it?
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 07:52 AM
10 hrs ago

340.1 million people in this country and no one seems capable of stopping this crap.

I find that VERY telling...

VERY...

JoseBalow

(9,094 posts)
34. "... no one seems capable of stopping this crap."
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 11:52 AM
6 hrs ago

Which just emboldens him to keep doubling down.

We are in a death spiral, and nobody is stopping it. He won't stop on his own.

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