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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHere's the deal. Re: Maxwell
I will state up front that what I'm describing here is complete conjecture with no real evidence, just what I would call an "educated guess".
Day one with inmate Ghislaine Maxwell and Todd Blanche:
TB: OK. what do you have for us?"
GM: "Plenty on your boss. I want out. He was on the plane and visited the island at least twenty times. Jeffrey and Donald were fast friends for over ten years. They did a lot of stuff together. If I don't get a pardon, I'll spill the beans. And don't think about a fake suicide, I have a letter burying your boss in a safe location. In fact, in numerous safe locations, just in case."
TB: "Your ultimatum may be difficult to fulfill but tell me what you've got and I'll see what we can do."
GM: Shows copies of her evidence.
Adjourn for day one:
Day two:
TB: "Here's the deal, right from my boss. We can give you a commutation but after the election of 2028 and before his term's end. In the meantime, we'll transfer you, as early as next week, to a 'Club Fed' facility in Texas, where you will serve your time until the commutation, in comfort. This deal is void if you speak one ill word about Donald. Deal?"
GM: "Deal."
WheelWalker
(9,383 posts)I couldn't agree with you more, comrade.
misanthrope
(9,390 posts)she carried back to lock-up in max security. How did she come into possession of it and why was she allowed to take it back with her?
Pototan
(3,011 posts)of evidence that corroborated her story. The problem for Trump was that it included him. Maxwell will not testify, either in any cases or before Congress, because if they ask about Trump, she refuses to perjure herself, as that would put her back behind bars.
She will remain silent in the meantime.
TheProle
(3,915 posts)Captain Zero
(8,759 posts)I'm not sure Texas is a better jurisdiction for he imprisonment. Airports there are flying people to El Salvador.
brush
(61,033 posts)there are other powerful men that don't want her out and demanding bribes for the info she has on them.
She might be safer keeping an extremely low profile in Club Fed...but TSF is a known liar and might get desperate to take suspicion away from himself and have her eliminated anyway.
The's playing the cards she has but TSF's in a stronger position as letting her out early is an admission of guilt.
Norrrm
(4,088 posts)Republicans are quite tolerant within their own circles.
FarPoint
(14,567 posts)I see a pardon coming soon for Maxwell and Diddy too.... Hope I am wrong.
EarthAbides
(429 posts)Maxwell will escape from this prison, while the guards look away. She will get on a helicopter bound for nobody knows.... If the fascist pig was smart someone would push Maxwell out of the helicopter as it flew over the ocean.
This is what is going to happen...
InstantGratification
(417 posts)She has the goods to bury him and has made it known to him what she has. She has equally made it known that it all stays secret while she lives, but all goes public if she dies. The pardon is her way out. He hopes that it all dies out before that pardon happens because it is a serious and unexpected thorn in his side right now.
Funny thing to me is that he pushed this conspiracy to maga (especially the Qanon wing of maga) and now they want the list of democrat pedophiles from his bullshit conspiracy theory and are SERIOUSLY pissed that he won't put out the conspiracy theory list that he primed them for, but doesn't actually have.
Epstein didn't have those files to protect him because he was the CEO, she was the one that made his wishes happen, she has those files, she was the central enabler behind his crimes. She has the goods on any and everyone in those videos.
Captain Zero
(8,759 posts)Would her info still come out?
They would definitely scoop up what she has in her quarters. Because she would look too obvious lugging that box out the door and out the prison gates.
My guess is they have already started looking for who else she gave copies to and are threatening them. Or worse.
bluestarone
(21,301 posts)If it goes down this way, it's 100% PROOF to everyone of us that we are 100% correct about these unholy creatures in charge of our country!!
CanonRay
(15,977 posts)Pototan
(3,011 posts)my conjecture seems plausible to me.
C Moon
(13,496 posts)I think they plan to wait a little (so the public forgets) then when something huge hits the headlines, she's released in the background.
Pototan
(3,011 posts)If he waits until after the election in 2028, he doesn't care who knows.
That's why she's in a glorified resort until then.
This is a great deal for her.
Cosmocat
(15,359 posts)Her lawyer filed their appeal to the SC after the first meeting. Good chance they spring her.
allegorical oracle
(6,227 posts)OMGWTF
(5,021 posts)"Just want you to know that I didn't kill Epstein."
The lady doth protest too much methinks.
Trueblue Texan
(4,223 posts)Sounds about right to me.
H2O Man
(78,703 posts)Epstein and the felon lived a mile apart in Palm Beach. Epstein was sexually abusing underage girls while he lived there. While the island is central to a number of people associated with Epstein, it is important to focus on the felon's times at Epstein's Palm Beach home.
Pototan
(3,011 posts)Does my script seem plausible to you?
I value your opinion.
H2O Man
(78,703 posts)we are seeing as it unfolds. She holds more cards than the felon-in-chief.
A few days back, one of our friends here asked me about some "disloyal" people on the outside that are, at least, stirring the pot. They have never respected the felon -- as young Tucker's e-mails to co-workers at Fox showed -- and want him to be kneecapped. Not fully removed, for no one likes Vance. Not that a Senate conviction on an impeachment could be anticipated. Just weaken to where he will have no influence in deciding the 2028 presidential candidate. What do you think?
Pototan
(3,011 posts)moving Maxwell to a country club with few, if any, restrictions is so obvious. The felon knows he can't pardon or commute before the mid-terms. If he does it before the 2028 election, Trump diminishes JD's chances.
The scenario I laid out gives Maxwell a good deal. Instead of 20 years, she does 5 or 6. The next 3+ years are really easy time.
Maxwell doesn't really need a pardon; a commutation will serve her purpose. However, I wouldn't put a pardon past Trump, especially on the way out the door.
As for who the Republican candidate is in 2028, I can't even hazard a guess. I really can't figure out the Trump Cultists. I'm good at politics, but pretty bad at evaluating cults.
Who knows why Jim Jones' followers did what they did.
Arazi
(8,727 posts)She has allllllll the cards.
Shes telling him what she wants and I presume hell give it to her. He doesnt care what it looks like - his cult will believe any story his team concocts.
H2O Man
(78,703 posts)that the felon's attorney at the #2 DOJ spot would propose she wait until the mid-terms are over. I don't think Maxwell or her brother, who controls their family's evidence such as the 50th birthday card he shared with the WSJ, are that patient. And we know of zero evidence that the felon has a speck of loyalty to anyone, including his vice presidents.
I agree that she holds the stronger hand. She was smarter than Epstein, and she is smarter than the president. She understands the game.
Pototan
(3,011 posts)Maxwell cannot pardon herself. Her only play is to threaten to rat out Trump. Once she does that, she has played her best card. After that, she is at the mercy of the Trump justice department and correction department.
My scenario is her best play. She stays in "Club Fed" for 3 years or so and gets a pardon as Trump finishes his term. Nice and easy.
If she calls Trump's bluff, she may end up like Jeffrey. If she goes along with the plan, she does easy time and gets out after serving just 25% of her sentence.
Maxwell's greatest danger is after Trump is out of office and she is out of jail. That's what she really has to plan out.
People die every day from car accidents, swimming accidents, overdoses, plane crashes, etc.
You get my point.
Arazi
(8,727 posts)She absolutely has the upper hand. I presume she has many items to select from after 15 years of friendship between Trump, Epstein and herself.
And he dares not kill her - she certainly has evidence parked with lawyers and family that will be released as a dead mans switch that will destroy him if shes killed.
I doubt shes in the same level of danger now or later, in prison or out. Her deal is the same when shes released - leave her alone and the evidence she has against all of the pedos stays buried. Keep her alive and its the same deal - the evidence stays hidden.
Pototan
(3,011 posts)Trump controls so much of the media, he can discredit her and it becomes a pissing contest.
But here's the fact that makes my theory more plausible, "Why would Trump move Maxwell to the cushiest prison in the whole system if they were still negotiating?". It's obvious to me the deal is done, and her placement is part of the deal.
Arazi
(8,727 posts)Traitors all but said hes going to pardon her and rightwing news is already starting reputation washing her.
Rightwing news anchors are already positioning Maxwell as a victim!
His cult will believe anything he tells them but I guarantee you hes absolutely not going to antagonize her. Ever.
Pototan
(3,011 posts)I don't see that at all.
Sorry, as they say, agree to disagree".
Arazi
(8,727 posts)Captain Zero
(8,759 posts)In the meantime??
Can he find them?
Arazi
(8,727 posts)Shes Robert Maxwells daughter so Im sure the info is located in multiple places and even if Traitor (or anyone else in her files) locates one stash, youd never know you got it all.
I presume the word is going out to leave her alone and shell leave her pedo-clients alone.
CincyDem
(7,320 posts)After that, hes got no political risk to a pardon. Republican may, but not him.
Bluesaph
(1,023 posts)She cant wait. Shes likely demanding it happen now.
Pototan
(3,011 posts)I put up my theory. Explained my reasoning. In time I'll be proven either right or wrong.
Arazi
(8,727 posts)She doesnt care if Republicans lose seats in the midterms.
Even the idea that shed give a shit about that is unbelievable.
In fact I bet shes threatened to release incriminating info in bits over the next 18 months unless shes released asap.
Keep the story alive and fresh in everyones minds.
Its what Id do (and Im not an evil criminal pedophile with sketchy ties to international intelligence agencies)
allegorical oracle
(6,227 posts)Brainfodder
(7,781 posts)MineralMan
(150,693 posts)snot
(11,528 posts)the videos confiscated by the FBI would be better proof.
That said, if no one ever bothered to interview her before now, that seems beyond odd.