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senseandsensibility

(24,263 posts)
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 01:36 PM Aug 2025

You guys were worried for nothing!

Kevin Hassett went on MTP this morning and explained the whole firing the labor statistics person for reporting bad numbers thing. It's all innocent, people. As he told Welker: "The President wants his own people there, so that when we see the jobs numbers, they are more transparent and more reliable."

See, it's all for transparency. Get it now?

Back to the real world, Ron Filipkowski put this hacks comments into perspective: The worst ones are people like Hassett, who are very aware that they are lying to the American people week after week on Sunday shows to cover for Trump, but do it effortlessly and with a smile. In many ways worse than the brainless cultists.

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You guys were worried for nothing! (Original Post) senseandsensibility Aug 2025 OP
I'll say it again. markodochartaigh Aug 2025 #1
Yes, and this guy knows exactly what he is doing senseandsensibility Aug 2025 #3
TSF is full of it all right. He wants the numbers to make him look good. brush Aug 2025 #6
No question though that her immediate firing was because she was Biden appointee wishstar Aug 2025 #2
Which is why anyone he appoints won't be Captain Zero Aug 2025 #4
Bingo! senseandsensibility Aug 2025 #5
He's got to be doin' something and after all he's proud of all of the TeeVee experience he has with littlemissmartypants Aug 2025 #9
AND because she is a woman, not a mar-a-stepford clone. niyad Aug 2025 #15
I'm confident we'll know if trump's new appointee screws with the numbers. Economists, investigative reporters, etc., Silent Type Aug 2025 #7
Of course the corporate media is cowed by trump senseandsensibility Aug 2025 #8
Think just about every media outlet is reporting trump's firing of Commissioner. Thye'll do same if he screws with data. Silent Type Aug 2025 #10
If by reporting you mean letting Hassett lie his face off senseandsensibility Aug 2025 #16
Filipkowski is correct, but... Shipwack Aug 2025 #11
Trump's Efforts to Control Information Echo an Authoritarian Playbook (NYT gift article) LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2025 #12
Hassett in 2nd place for DJT's Baghdad Bob. Leavitt is first and Lutnick is a close third. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2025 #13
The competition is intense senseandsensibility Aug 2025 #14

markodochartaigh

(5,079 posts)
1. I'll say it again.
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 01:46 PM
Aug 2025

I remember the Asian and Latin American economic meltdowns over the last three decades. Time and again pundits would ask experts what had gone wrong. The experts would cite lack of transparency and corruption.

Of course those were much smaller economies and not the home of the reserve currency. We're gonna need a bigger boat.

senseandsensibility

(24,263 posts)
3. Yes, and this guy knows exactly what he is doing
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 01:52 PM
Aug 2025

and how dangerous it is. If shows like MTP are going to let him spew his BS they need to be ready with real time fact checking. He keeps going on the Sunday shows because he gets a free ride.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
6. TSF is full of it all right. He wants the numbers to make him look good.
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 02:24 PM
Aug 2025

But because they don't, it shows he doesn't know WTF he's doing.

wishstar

(5,804 posts)
2. No question though that her immediate firing was because she was Biden appointee
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 01:47 PM
Aug 2025

which was surprising since they seem to have replaced all the top officials in every other agency and board with Magas. Quite likely she wouldn't have been fired if she was a Maga that he appointed and instead he would have castigated Jerome Powell again and blamed him for the poor jobs numbers due to keeping interest rates high

littlemissmartypants

(31,783 posts)
9. He's got to be doin' something and after all he's proud of all of the TeeVee experience he has with
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 02:48 PM
Aug 2025

Firing people. He loved practicing his facial expressions and hand gestures to go along with those famous two words.



 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
7. I'm confident we'll know if trump's new appointee screws with the numbers. Economists, investigative reporters, etc.,
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 02:28 PM
Aug 2025

will be all over finding obvious discrepancies.

senseandsensibility

(24,263 posts)
8. Of course the corporate media is cowed by trump
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 02:36 PM
Aug 2025

and he is making strides in shutting down all kinds of research, so I don't have the confidence you have. I wish I did.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
10. Think just about every media outlet is reporting trump's firing of Commissioner. Thye'll do same if he screws with data.
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 03:02 PM
Aug 2025

senseandsensibility

(24,263 posts)
16. If by reporting you mean letting Hassett lie his face off
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 05:02 PM
Aug 2025

without fact checking him like Welker did on MTP this morning, their reporting is worse than useless.

Shipwack

(3,011 posts)
11. Filipkowski is correct, but...
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 03:17 PM
Aug 2025

… let’s not leave the spineless hosts off the hook either. There should be forceful pushback against lies and lying liars like Hasset.

LetMyPeopleVote

(175,424 posts)
12. Trump's Efforts to Control Information Echo an Authoritarian Playbook (NYT gift article)
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 03:20 PM
Aug 2025

In firing the head of the agency that collects employment statistics, the president underscored his tendency to suppress facts he doesn’t like and promote his own version of reality.



Trump’s Efforts to Control Information Echo an Authoritarian Playbook www.nytimes.com/2025/08/03/u...

Jane Mayer (@janemayer.bsky.social) 2025-08-03T14:43:25.797Z

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/03/us/politics/trump-bls-jobs-facts.html?unlocked_article_code=1.bU8.uevb.5cZlTEaDzRQn&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

An old rule in Washington holds that you are entitled to your own opinions but you are not entitled to your own facts. President Trump seems determined to prove that wrong.....

The message, however, was unmistakable: Government officials who deal in data now fear they have to toe the line or risk losing their jobs. Career scientists, longtime intelligence analysts and nonpartisan statisticians who serve every president regardless of political party with neutral information on countless matters, such as weather patterns and vaccine efficacy, now face pressure as never before to conform to the alternative reality enforced by the president and his team.

Mr. Trump has never been especially wedded to facts, routinely making up his own numbers, repeating falsehoods and conspiracy theories even after they are debunked and denigrating the very concept of independent fact-checking. But his efforts since reclaiming the White House to make the rest of government adopt his versions of the truth have gone further than in his first term and increasingly remind scholars of the way authoritarian leaders in other countries have sought to control information.

“Democracy can’t realistically exist without reliable epistemic infrastructure,” said Michael Patrick Lynch, author of the recently published “On Truth in Politics” and a professor at the University of Connecticut.

“Anti-democratic, authoritarian leaders know this,” he said. “That is why they will seize every opportunity to control sources of information. As Bacon taught us, knowledge is power. But preventing or controlling access to knowledge is also power.”....

“It’s a post-factual world that Trump is looking for, and he’s got these sycophants working for him that don’t challenge him on facts,” said Barbara Comstock, a former Republican congresswoman from Virginia.

But firing the messenger, she said, will not make the economy any better. “The reality is the economy is worse, and he can’t keep saying it’s better,” she said. “Joe Biden learned that; people still experience the experience they have, no matter how much” you tell them otherwise.

We can no longer trust any numbers from the trump administration

senseandsensibility

(24,263 posts)
14. The competition is intense
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 04:34 PM
Aug 2025

I'll give you that. But I still think Mike Johnson has got to be in the top three considering he has actual power.

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