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Emaciated and pale, Evyatar David, a 24-year-old Israeli hostage, was filmed by his Hamas captors digging his own grave in a cramped underground tunnel, one of a series of videos that Palestinian militants have released in recent days of emaciated Israeli hostages, the Wall Street Journal reports.
David and another hostage, 21-year-old Rom Braslavski, also shown emaciated and weak, beg to be freed in the videos, warning that their deaths are near. They criticize Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for ignoring their plight.
https://politicalwire.com/2025/08/03/hamas-releases-video-of-hostage-digging-own-grave/
Mossfern
(4,634 posts)Were there any demands in the tape or was it released in order to further antagonize Netanyahu and Israelis?
Hamas loves this war and loves when Israel is the cause of civilians suffering.
They are winning the propaganda war and they want to ramp it up. Hamas never thought of themselves as the "good guys."
Look at the way they treat Palestinians.
harumph
(3,115 posts)But like Hamas, I believe Netanyahu (loves) this war as well. It was the only way for Israel to expand into
new territory and Bibbi is playing the long game. Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette, no? If I could,
I'd wish Hamas and the right wing extremists of Israel to the cornfield, where in a setting worthy of Dante,
they could play together. Forever.
RandySF
(81,396 posts)Cha
(317,138 posts)are Fucking Evil Butchers, Rapists, Torturers, Sadistic Invaders.
And, now they're Fucking Flaunting their Hostages Digging their Own Graves.
Fuck those Malignant Cancerous Assholes on the World .
tell us how you really feel.
Renew Deal
(84,709 posts)And to Hamas, that is a victory.
Mossfern
(4,634 posts)Is moral?
Renew Deal
(84,709 posts)sarisataka
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As it has been said, "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter"
EdmondDantes_
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Sometimes both sides are wrong. Hamas is immoral and acts the same. Netanyahu's government is also immoral and acts immorally.
Cha
(317,138 posts)Digging their graves. oh tell us how fucking high that ground is.
Xolodno
(7,317 posts)Israel would have to release a lot of Hamas people currently in jail. But I think they miscalculated. Bibi needs this war to stay in power, so he's not going to negotiate. Now the Arab world is turning their back on Hamas, they had enough. And that is probably making Hamas even more desperate. And Bibi's days are probably numbered, he was a reliable person to look the other way since he didn't want the PA regain power in Gaza.
A PA and Hamas civil war is pretty much inevitable at this point. Problem is, a lot of innocent bystanders are going to get killed.
milestogo
(22,650 posts)iemanja
(57,450 posts)RandomNumbers
(19,073 posts)and rescue the hostages while more were still alive, without destroying Gaza and brutalizing innocents* there.
* I'm not sure how many adult Gazans are truly innocent (probably a few, maybe more), but children are always innocent.
The actions of Hamas are unequivocally evil. Too bad the world couldn't get together on dealing with THAT.
RandySF
(81,396 posts)RandomNumbers
(19,073 posts)JI7
(93,266 posts)Instead of all the excuses and justifications for what Hamas did there should have been a strong worldwide condemnation of what hamas did with demands to release the hostages.
Israel was attacked and what happened was so fucked up and people are STILL being held.
The reactions of so many make no sense other than jew hatred.
EllieBC
(3,629 posts)the western world blubbers and blabbers, b-b-but Israel
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still-prayin4rain
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haele
(15,113 posts)Who else do we know won by a little over a third of the voting population?
And there was a lot of voter intimidation reported in that election also, according to my Lebanese Marionite neighbors, who were still in Lebanon at the time and had an interest watching that election, as Hezbollah had an interest; everyone in Lebanon was concerned about the more radical Shi'a and Sunni movements in the Levant and the corruption that came with them both.
And there hasn't been an election in the Gaza region since - wonder why?
Hamas is not "loved" or supported by the people of Gaza, but they are backed by lots of hardliner money who profit off regional instability. On all sides.
still-prayin4rain
(525 posts)iemanja
(57,450 posts)Few people alive in Gaza today voted for Hamas, but you knew that. Meanwhile, Netanyahu has been funneling money to Hamas for years in order to prop it up as a way to undermine the PA and with it a two-state solution.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/11/01/majority-palestinians-gaza-elect-hamas/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/
https://www.972mag.com/netanyahu-hamas-october-7-adam-raz/
Under your analysis, you and I are responsible for every rotten thing Trump has ever done. And his election was only last November, not 19 years ago.
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iemanja
(57,450 posts)Read the snopes link I provided. It answers that very question. The government has canceled elections, not the people.
If Hamas was so bad for Israel, why has Netanyahu funded them money since that election? Why dont you care?
Spreading propaganda does not justify the starvation of children in Gaza, any more than there is any justification for what Hamas did to this hostage. Both are unconscionable.
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iemanja
(57,450 posts)Can do something about genocide, and you can do something about Alligator Alcatraz now.
I see you.
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0rganism
(25,479 posts)In retrospect, it was obvious: if they wanted to trade hostages for quality-of-life improvements for the Gazans, they would have made a lot more deals and done a lot less murder. No, the goal was always to weaken Israel's already tenuous position globally, at which they've been remarkably successful. Provoke bloodthirsty Bibi and the Israeli expansionists with a hyper-seductive causus belli through a series of unforgettable atrocities leading to an equally horrific genocidal invasion. Drawing the US deep into the vortex of failure has been a bonus, and the whole "Mediterranean Riviera" thing is extra-extra credit.