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RandySF

(81,396 posts)
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 10:33 AM Aug 2025

Hamas Releases Video of Hostage Digging Own Grave

Emaciated and pale, Evyatar David, a 24-year-old Israeli hostage, was filmed by his Hamas captors digging his own grave in a cramped underground tunnel, one of a series of videos that Palestinian militants have released in recent days of emaciated Israeli hostages,” the Wall Street Journal reports.

“David and another hostage, 21-year-old Rom Braslavski, also shown emaciated and weak, beg to be freed in the videos, warning that their deaths are near. They criticize Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for ignoring their plight.”


https://politicalwire.com/2025/08/03/hamas-releases-video-of-hostage-digging-own-grave/

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Hamas Releases Video of Hostage Digging Own Grave (Original Post) RandySF Aug 2025 OP
What does Hamas want in order to free them? Mossfern Aug 2025 #1
Hamas aren't the good guys - obviously. harumph Aug 2025 #2
I bet Hamas is well fed. RandySF Aug 2025 #7
"...Hamas aren't the good guys.." Hamas Cha Aug 2025 #17
So .... Mossfern Aug 2025 #22
Always... Cha Aug 2025 #23
Israel has lost the moral high ground Renew Deal Aug 2025 #4
And Hamas Mossfern Aug 2025 #5
It's not a competition. Renew Deal Aug 2025 #6
To some it is definitely a competition sarisataka Aug 2025 #8
Hamas doesn't have to be moral for Israel to not be moral EdmondDantes_ Aug 2025 #12
Fucking Hamas is Falunting their Hostges Cha Aug 2025 #18
There were agreements. Xolodno Aug 2025 #16
Horrific. milestogo Aug 2025 #3
How awful iemanja Aug 2025 #9
It is a shame the world was too weak to bring Hamas to justice RandomNumbers Aug 2025 #10
Because Jewish lives don't matter to much of the world. RandySF Aug 2025 #11
Sadly true. RandomNumbers Aug 2025 #13
This is where I am JI7 Aug 2025 #15
And the Arab world has condemned Hamas while EllieBC Aug 2025 #24
How a group of people can become so cruel, I will never understand. still-prayin4rain Aug 2025 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Aug 2025 #19
Bare majority a little over 30% and most were old and now dead. haele Aug 2025 #20
I sure as heck did not vote for Trump to represent me, and yet here I am. still-prayin4rain Aug 2025 #21
19 years ago Hamas won a plurality of the votes, not a majority iemanja Aug 2025 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Aug 2025 #27
The "people" had nothing to do with it. iemanja Aug 2025 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Aug 2025 #29
Then the Israeli people iemanja Aug 2025 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Aug 2025 #31
Hamas couldn't care less about the Palestinians, they're accelerationists trying to end Israel 0rganism Aug 2025 #26

Mossfern

(4,634 posts)
1. What does Hamas want in order to free them?
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 11:16 AM
Aug 2025

Were there any demands in the tape or was it released in order to further antagonize Netanyahu and Israelis?
Hamas loves this war and loves when Israel is the cause of civilians suffering.

They are winning the propaganda war and they want to ramp it up. Hamas never thought of themselves as the "good guys."
Look at the way they treat Palestinians.

harumph

(3,115 posts)
2. Hamas aren't the good guys - obviously.
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 11:31 AM
Aug 2025

But like Hamas, I believe Netanyahu (loves) this war as well. It was the only way for Israel to expand into
new territory and Bibbi is playing the long game. Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette, no? If I could,
I'd wish Hamas and the right wing extremists of Israel to the cornfield, where in a setting worthy of Dante,
they could play together. Forever.

Cha

(317,138 posts)
17. "...Hamas aren't the good guys.." Hamas
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 05:24 PM
Aug 2025

are Fucking Evil Butchers, Rapists, Torturers, Sadistic Invaders. And, now they're Fucking Flaunting their Hostages Digging their Own Graves.

Fuck those Malignant Cancerous Assholes on the World .

sarisataka

(22,255 posts)
8. To some it is definitely a competition
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 12:59 PM
Aug 2025

Last edited Sun Aug 3, 2025, 01:29 PM - Edit history (1)

As it has been said, "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter"

EdmondDantes_

(1,423 posts)
12. Hamas doesn't have to be moral for Israel to not be moral
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 01:08 PM
Aug 2025

Last edited Sun Aug 3, 2025, 07:16 PM - Edit history (1)

Sometimes both sides are wrong. Hamas is immoral and acts the same. Netanyahu's government is also immoral and acts immorally.

Cha

(317,138 posts)
18. Fucking Hamas is Falunting their Hostges
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 05:27 PM
Aug 2025

Digging their graves. oh tell us how fucking high that ground is.

Xolodno

(7,317 posts)
16. There were agreements.
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 04:52 PM
Aug 2025

Israel would have to release a lot of Hamas people currently in jail. But I think they miscalculated. Bibi needs this war to stay in power, so he's not going to negotiate. Now the Arab world is turning their back on Hamas, they had enough. And that is probably making Hamas even more desperate. And Bibi's days are probably numbered, he was a reliable person to look the other way since he didn't want the PA regain power in Gaza.

A PA and Hamas civil war is pretty much inevitable at this point. Problem is, a lot of innocent bystanders are going to get killed.

RandomNumbers

(19,073 posts)
10. It is a shame the world was too weak to bring Hamas to justice
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 01:05 PM
Aug 2025

and rescue the hostages while more were still alive, without destroying Gaza and brutalizing innocents* there.

* I'm not sure how many adult Gazans are truly innocent (probably a few, maybe more), but children are always innocent.

The actions of Hamas are unequivocally evil. Too bad the world couldn't get together on dealing with THAT.

JI7

(93,266 posts)
15. This is where I am
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 02:13 PM
Aug 2025

Instead of all the excuses and justifications for what Hamas did there should have been a strong worldwide condemnation of what hamas did with demands to release the hostages.

Israel was attacked and what happened was so fucked up and people are STILL being held.

The reactions of so many make no sense other than jew hatred.

EllieBC

(3,629 posts)
24. And the Arab world has condemned Hamas while
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 10:56 PM
Aug 2025

the western world blubbers and blabbers, “b-b-but Israel….”

Response to still-prayin4rain (Reply #14)

haele

(15,113 posts)
20. Bare majority a little over 30% and most were old and now dead.
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 06:00 PM
Aug 2025

Who else do we know won by a little over a third of the voting population?

And there was a lot of voter intimidation reported in that election also, according to my Lebanese Marionite neighbors, who were still in Lebanon at the time and had an interest watching that election, as Hezbollah had an interest; everyone in Lebanon was concerned about the more radical Shi'a and Sunni movements in the Levant and the corruption that came with them both.

And there hasn't been an election in the Gaza region since - wonder why?

Hamas is not "loved" or supported by the people of Gaza, but they are backed by lots of hardliner money who profit off regional instability. On all sides.

iemanja

(57,450 posts)
25. 19 years ago Hamas won a plurality of the votes, not a majority
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 11:25 PM
Aug 2025

Few people alive in Gaza today voted for Hamas, but you knew that. Meanwhile, Netanyahu has been funneling money to Hamas for years in order to prop it up as a way to undermine the PA and with it a two-state solution.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/11/01/majority-palestinians-gaza-elect-hamas/

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

https://www.972mag.com/netanyahu-hamas-october-7-adam-raz/

Under your analysis, you and I are responsible for every rotten thing Trump has ever done. And his election was only last November, not 19 years ago.

Response to iemanja (Reply #25)

iemanja

(57,450 posts)
28. The "people" had nothing to do with it.
Mon Aug 4, 2025, 12:04 AM
Aug 2025

Read the snopes link I provided. It answers that very question. The government has canceled elections, not the people.

If Hamas was so bad for Israel, why has Netanyahu funded them money since that election? Why don’t you care?

Spreading propaganda does not justify the starvation of children in Gaza, any more than there is any justification for what Hamas did to this hostage. Both are unconscionable.

Response to iemanja (Reply #28)

iemanja

(57,450 posts)
30. Then the Israeli people
Mon Aug 4, 2025, 12:28 AM
Aug 2025

Can do something about genocide, and you can do something about Alligator Alcatraz now.

I see you.

Response to iemanja (Reply #30)

0rganism

(25,479 posts)
26. Hamas couldn't care less about the Palestinians, they're accelerationists trying to end Israel
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 11:26 PM
Aug 2025

In retrospect, it was obvious: if they wanted to trade hostages for quality-of-life improvements for the Gazans, they would have made a lot more deals and done a lot less murder. No, the goal was always to weaken Israel's already tenuous position globally, at which they've been remarkably successful. Provoke bloodthirsty Bibi and the Israeli expansionists with a hyper-seductive causus belli through a series of unforgettable atrocities leading to an equally horrific genocidal invasion. Drawing the US deep into the vortex of failure has been a bonus, and the whole "Mediterranean Riviera" thing is extra-extra credit.

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