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Stargleamer

(2,632 posts)
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 09:42 AM Aug 2025

"never before in my life have i called for mass protests, for mobilizations, for disruptions."

But I am now” - JB Pritzker.

Governor Pritzker says it’s time.

Blue Gal (@blueistheonlyway.bsky.social) 2025-04-28T03:55:46.935Z


Better late than never!
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"never before in my life have i called for mass protests, for mobilizations, for disruptions." (Original Post) Stargleamer Aug 2025 OP
Rec. Rec. Rec malaise Aug 2025 #1
Yes, yes, yes. Magoo48 Aug 2025 #39
recalls the four boxes of liberty cadoman Aug 2025 #2
They often fled their own countries to save their lives AllyCat Aug 2025 #13
You are right on all counts Hekate Aug 2025 #14
not all sought asylum in the literal context cadoman Aug 2025 #19
Pehaps we could take a page from the Ukrainian Babushka Brigade niyad Aug 2025 #15
When ICE is attempting to kidnap your family, friends, and neighbors, direct confrontation is exactly where you go. Magoo48 Aug 2025 #38
He's not late. He's timely. It's building and will continue to build as economic ramifications ripple out. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2025 #3
One Million Rising and join an Indivisible group!!!! Amaryllis Aug 2025 #4
He must have not been around in the 60s surfered Aug 2025 #5
For What It's Worth Stargleamer Aug 2025 #6
He was born in 1965. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2025 #7
Probably in pre-school. blm Aug 2025 #10
Volunteers - Jefferson Airplane DBoon Aug 2025 #11
Doesn't matter -- he knows. Those of us who were young then are old now, and personally I rejoice for Pritzker... Hekate Aug 2025 #16
He was born around 1965. Too late to have really experienced them, but close enough to be really cognizant of it. . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2025 #20
He was born in 1965 MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2025 #23
His family did business with Trump when he was starting out in NYC. Yoyoyo77 Aug 2025 #28
His family owns Hyatt hotels, they know Donald too well. Yoyoyo77 Aug 2025 #30
So proud of my governor. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2025 #8
Yes! 👍 Dave Bowman Aug 2025 #9
He's at the top of my list - *there*, I've jinxed him! UTUSN Aug 2025 #12
In the past the U.S. govt. Marthe48 Aug 2025 #17
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2025 #26
Hey, I have seen you around these parts lately! sheshe2 Aug 2025 #29
Nothing screams undemocratic like ignoring Marthe48 Aug 2025 #31
J.B. is a billionaire. His family owns the Hyatt hotel chain. Yoyoyo77 Aug 2025 #32
He gave a great State of State address surfered Aug 2025 #18
I think the some Dems who left Texas, to block the quorum applegrove Aug 2025 #21
A good choice. . . Stargleamer Aug 2025 #22
Yes, that was reported, and invited by Gov. JB....... :D Jack Valentino Aug 2025 #36
LEADERSHIP ! thought crime Aug 2025 #24
PREACH IT, BROTHER JB Skittles Aug 2025 #25
Heed the call. Sneederbunk Aug 2025 #27
Thank you, Governor Pritzker! FakeNoose Aug 2025 #33
I'd like to see more people marching on Washington than we have in the Army. rickyhall Aug 2025 #34
That would seem easy enough to do--- with enough lead time and planning.... Jack Valentino Aug 2025 #37
Someone really unexpected who also called for Americans to rise up? summer_in_TX Aug 2025 #35
 

cadoman

(1,617 posts)
2. recalls the four boxes of liberty
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 09:53 AM
Aug 2025
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_boxes_of_liberty

soap, ballot, jury, and cartridge

I'm not sure direct confrontation w/ICE is where we want to go. When you're weak (out of power), sometimes the best strategy is to lean into your opponents attack and use it against them.

Observe, for example, there is a policy of free flights home for undocumented immigrants right now, with no criminal charges, the option to apply for re-entry, and $1000 cash.

https://www.dhs.gov/cbphome

Who's to say that these brave migrants couldn't safely and peaceably "self deport" for a year, wait for Democrats to regain power in 2026, and after everyone in the country observing the economic wreckage their deportation caused, and Krasnov is delegitimized, allow Democrats to vote them back in with full citizenship and rights?

AllyCat

(18,569 posts)
13. They often fled their own countries to save their lives
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 11:48 AM
Aug 2025

Going back is a death sentence. And I don’t believe for a minute the US will honor their agreement. The cruelty is the point.

 

cadoman

(1,617 posts)
19. not all sought asylum in the literal context
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 01:09 PM
Aug 2025

Many just wanted economic prosperity and found it here.

Do you really think the United States is safer for the average minority than their old country? Every day we see it gets worse and more harmful, with mass shootings and police assaults now a regular occurrence.

And Trump may not honor all aspects of the agreement, but if he doesn't:

1) It gives us political ammunition.

2) The most important terms of the agreement will be public and Democrats will be the one to pounce on the opportunity to bring the immigrants back with their $1000 paid.

niyad

(129,802 posts)
15. Pehaps we could take a page from the Ukrainian Babushka Brigade
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 12:00 PM
Aug 2025

and greet them with tea and cakes.

Magoo48

(6,699 posts)
38. When ICE is attempting to kidnap your family, friends, and neighbors, direct confrontation is exactly where you go.
Mon Aug 4, 2025, 07:38 AM
Aug 2025

Put yourself in the victim’s space, if it were your family were under attack, wouldn’t you go to direct confrontation?

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
3. He's not late. He's timely. It's building and will continue to build as economic ramifications ripple out. . . . . nt
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 10:07 AM
Aug 2025

Hekate

(100,132 posts)
16. Doesn't matter -- he knows. Those of us who were young then are old now, and personally I rejoice for Pritzker...
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 12:05 PM
Aug 2025

…and all the others like him who are young enough to be my child, not just the ones young enough to be a grandchild.

It’s a mantra around here that the Party needs younger people to take up the torch — well, he is one and he’s a governor, unless the only ones who count are teenagers.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
20. He was born around 1965. Too late to have really experienced them, but close enough to be really cognizant of it. . .nt
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 03:23 PM
Aug 2025

Yoyoyo77

(320 posts)
28. His family did business with Trump when he was starting out in NYC.
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 07:46 PM
Aug 2025

The family owns and used to run Hyatt hotels. One of Donald's early hotel projects was in collaboration with Hyatt. J.B.s older brother was running Hyatt at the time. They wound going at in court for 10 years after working? with him.

Yoyoyo77

(320 posts)
30. His family owns Hyatt hotels, they know Donald too well.
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 07:48 PM
Aug 2025

The family owns and used to run Hyatt hotels. One of Donald's early hotel projects was in collaboration with Hyatt. J.B.s older brother was running Hyatt at the time. They wound going at in court for 10 years after working? with him.

Marthe48

(22,753 posts)
17. In the past the U.S. govt.
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 12:24 PM
Aug 2025

Or military leaders showed reluctance to use the armed forces against white Americans, unless they were trying to organize a union or protesting an unpopular war or social injustices. Under President Lincoln, Gen. McClellen was reluctant to fight the rebellious south. Pres. Obama showed a great restraint addressing the bundy crimes. And of course, the failure to crush the power behind the first attempt to install their thug in the White House. It is easy to find plenty of historical accounts of the U.S. armed forces being used against civilians, as long as they aren't white supremacists or traitors trying to destroy the country. Hoover used the military to remove the Bonus Army from D.C. in 1932. Ohio National Guard opened fire on unarmed protesters at Kent State. Lots of other action against Native Americans, POC, minorities that unfortunately exist side by side with civic attempts to make the rights laid out in The Constitution of the U.S.A. available to every human who lives in our country.
As Americans become freedom fighters on our soil, because they hate overreaching criminals destroying the ideals of our country, I'm pretty sure that the criminals will turn the strength and power of the military against us citizens, as they consolidate their evil desire to kill democracy.
Be careful out there. The rich don't like us. They never have.

Response to Marthe48 (Reply #17)

Marthe48

(22,753 posts)
31. Nothing screams undemocratic like ignoring
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 07:49 PM
Aug 2025

The laws of the land.

I would rather be on the side protecting the Constitution than on the side of thugs and criminals bent on making this country a back alley haven for traitors and rapists.

surfered

(11,767 posts)
18. He gave a great State of State address
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 12:29 PM
Aug 2025
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applegrove

(130,512 posts)
21. I think the some Dems who left Texas, to block the quorum
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 05:05 PM
Aug 2025

in Texas regarding redistricting there, are in Illinois.

Jack Valentino

(4,440 posts)
37. That would seem easy enough to do--- with enough lead time and planning....
Mon Aug 4, 2025, 02:18 AM
Aug 2025

Seems like four or five months ahead might do it.

summer_in_TX

(4,053 posts)
35. Someone really unexpected who also called for Americans to rise up?
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 11:12 PM
Aug 2025

David Brooks.

Glad Pritzker is so clear and forceful. Texas Dems made a good choice going there.

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