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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"never before in my life have i called for mass protests, for mobilizations, for disruptions."
But I am now - JB Pritzker.
Governor Pritzker says itâs time.
— Blue Gal (@blueistheonlyway.bsky.social) 2025-04-28T03:55:46.935Z
Better late than never!
malaise
(293,166 posts)That is all
Magoo48
(6,699 posts)cadoman
(1,617 posts)soap, ballot, jury, and cartridge
I'm not sure direct confrontation w/ICE is where we want to go. When you're weak (out of power), sometimes the best strategy is to lean into your opponents attack and use it against them.
Observe, for example, there is a policy of free flights home for undocumented immigrants right now, with no criminal charges, the option to apply for re-entry, and $1000 cash.
https://www.dhs.gov/cbphome
Who's to say that these brave migrants couldn't safely and peaceably "self deport" for a year, wait for Democrats to regain power in 2026, and after everyone in the country observing the economic wreckage their deportation caused, and Krasnov is delegitimized, allow Democrats to vote them back in with full citizenship and rights?
AllyCat
(18,569 posts)Going back is a death sentence. And I dont believe for a minute the US will honor their agreement. The cruelty is the point.
Hekate
(100,132 posts)cadoman
(1,617 posts)Many just wanted economic prosperity and found it here.
Do you really think the United States is safer for the average minority than their old country? Every day we see it gets worse and more harmful, with mass shootings and police assaults now a regular occurrence.
And Trump may not honor all aspects of the agreement, but if he doesn't:
1) It gives us political ammunition.
2) The most important terms of the agreement will be public and Democrats will be the one to pounce on the opportunity to bring the immigrants back with their $1000 paid.
niyad
(129,802 posts)and greet them with tea and cakes.
Magoo48
(6,699 posts)Put yourself in the victims space, if it were your family were under attack, wouldnt you go to direct confrontation?
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Amaryllis
(11,009 posts)surfered
(11,767 posts)Stargleamer
(2,632 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(178,648 posts)blm
(114,433 posts)DBoon
(24,768 posts)Hekate
(100,132 posts)
and all the others like him who are young enough to be my child, not just the ones young enough to be a grandchild.
Its a mantra around here that the Party needs younger people to take up the torch well, he is one and hes a governor, unless the only ones who count are teenagers.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(4,237 posts)Maybe he should have mobilized the toddlers in his neighborhood.
Yoyoyo77
(320 posts)The family owns and used to run Hyatt hotels. One of Donald's early hotel projects was in collaboration with Hyatt. J.B.s older brother was running Hyatt at the time. They wound going at in court for 10 years after working? with him.
Yoyoyo77
(320 posts)The family owns and used to run Hyatt hotels. One of Donald's early hotel projects was in collaboration with Hyatt. J.B.s older brother was running Hyatt at the time. They wound going at in court for 10 years after working? with him.
greatauntoftriplets
(178,648 posts)J.B.,
Dave Bowman
(6,751 posts)UTUSN
(77,074 posts)Marthe48
(22,753 posts)Or military leaders showed reluctance to use the armed forces against white Americans, unless they were trying to organize a union or protesting an unpopular war or social injustices. Under President Lincoln, Gen. McClellen was reluctant to fight the rebellious south. Pres. Obama showed a great restraint addressing the bundy crimes. And of course, the failure to crush the power behind the first attempt to install their thug in the White House. It is easy to find plenty of historical accounts of the U.S. armed forces being used against civilians, as long as they aren't white supremacists or traitors trying to destroy the country. Hoover used the military to remove the Bonus Army from D.C. in 1932. Ohio National Guard opened fire on unarmed protesters at Kent State. Lots of other action against Native Americans, POC, minorities that unfortunately exist side by side with civic attempts to make the rights laid out in The Constitution of the U.S.A. available to every human who lives in our country.
As Americans become freedom fighters on our soil, because they hate overreaching criminals destroying the ideals of our country, I'm pretty sure that the criminals will turn the strength and power of the military against us citizens, as they consolidate their evil desire to kill democracy.
Be careful out there. The rich don't like us. They never have.
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sheshe2
(96,130 posts)Spending late hours at the library?
Marthe48
(22,753 posts)The laws of the land.
I would rather be on the side protecting the Constitution than on the side of thugs and criminals bent on making this country a back alley haven for traitors and rapists.
Yoyoyo77
(320 posts)surfered
(11,767 posts)applegrove
(130,512 posts)in Texas regarding redistricting there, are in Illinois.
Stargleamer
(2,632 posts)I think Hawaii is also good
Jack Valentino
(4,440 posts)thought crime
(1,271 posts)This calls for some equally powerful "Followership" !! Yes, it's time.
Skittles
(169,787 posts)THANK YOU
Sneederbunk
(17,287 posts)FakeNoose
(40,328 posts)
rickyhall
(5,506 posts)Jack Valentino
(4,440 posts)Seems like four or five months ahead might do it.
summer_in_TX
(4,053 posts)David Brooks.
Glad Pritzker is so clear and forceful. Texas Dems made a good choice going there.