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Worth a minute to click on this link, it is the best analysis of the Epstein/Trump sex trafficking travesty. So many people involved with Epstein have been protected and still are being protected. This article I linked should be read by the MSM, by Democrats, who want to bring justice to the many victims of Epstein.
Why were so many underage girls working at Trump's spa? One must be 18 to be a registered masseuse. What jobs were these underage girls doing? Was Mar-a-Lago a part of the supply chain, part of recruiting little girls for Epstein?
C'mon Democrats, start asking the questions that are being asked in this link.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/the-jeffrey-epstein-questions-nobody-is-asking/ar-AA1JOIYU?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=688f6660ec7f4c9199bdb06ee3d45e2c&ei=11
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underpants
(195,122 posts)
gab13by13
(31,356 posts)A reporter asked him and he stated he remembered her. Why are you asking your question? What purpose?
Maybe your point is that the little girls didn't work very long for Trump, they moved on to Epstein?
Fucking Donald Trump was Jeffrey Epstein's best friend for a decade. I am sick of people (not you) afraid to confront trump with the questions that are asked in my link.
Someone should be asking Trump if his towel girls were a part of the supply line to Epstein.
It just pisses me off that Trump can even get away with being a part of a sex trafficking ring which is worse than shooting someone on 5th Avenue.
underpants
(195,122 posts)Guess what, he couldn’t shut up. He confirmed it was her. 🙄
I completely agree with what you posted.
lapfog_1
(31,704 posts)that would make sure the towels were supplied and to run errands for the other staff and, presumably, for the clients.
now, one might ask what these underage girls were doing around a lot of rich powerful naked men... ewwwww
haele
(15,113 posts)Where the smart and good looking kids take on jobs like caddy, pool kid, or other "go-fer service jobs", which are basically waiting and fetch jobs.
Pretty young women were always used for fetch jobs, bringing snacks, drinks, umbrellas or removing trash for their assigned member party.
Sort of like the movie Caddyshack. But worse.
Spa service included arranging for lotions, flip flops, shorts and tops, and towels at the spa and shadowing the "party" to ensure they didn't run short.
FIL, a retired AF Colonel and VP at a large Insurance company used to belong to several dozen different country clubs across the US, from really professional ones on the Tour circuit to a couple rather skeevy "local rich family" clubs, depending on where he went on business.
He preferred the professional ones that didn't depend on their "youth program" to provide staff for the members.
allegorical oracle
(6,227 posts)a towel.
doc03
(38,859 posts)gab13by13
(31,356 posts)The island, Palm Beach, New York. some I am forgetting.
Botany
(76,464 posts)And I believe that Putin and Russia were supplying lots of girls to the Trump/Epstein international sex
trafficking operations. I guarantee that Putin/Epstein had kompromat on a lot of rich and powerful men
and that includes Lindsey Graham too.
Btw the Netflix documentary on Maxwell is pretty damning on her too. She should never see the
outside of a prison again for what she did for the sex trafficking syndicate.
poli-junkie
(1,492 posts)
uponit7771
(93,491 posts)gab13by13
(31,356 posts)when the family of Virginia Giuffre has to beg Trump not to pardon Maxwell? Their daughter can't beg, she committed suicide in April.
WTF, this is going to blow over I just get pissed that even sex trafficking of children is OK with Republicans. They fucking put Maxwell in a country club prison which doesn't allow sex traffickers, and all that the Democratic head of the Oversight committee did was write a stern letter to the Director of Prisons.
Every Congressional Democrat should be screaming about Republicans sending Maxwell to a country club prison, link the Republican party to sex traffickers, the bastards are going to make Maxwell out to be a victim. Start screaming.
mwmisses4289
(3,332 posts)you tubers and other influences to do it.
gab13by13
(31,356 posts)
lostnfound
(17,420 posts)Surfaced before the 2016 election.
A rather tame first question on the part of the reporter too. Not ‘how old was that girl’ or ‘have there been other signs of abnormal interest in young girls’ but ‘How concerned is the trump campaign…’
Ah, but at least CBS back then dared to air it.
mwmisses4289
(3,332 posts)had a similiar speculation: that trumps marlargo was the supply house for epstein.
malaise
(293,184 posts)brothel history and his love for citing his connections to the so called genius uncle while claiming to be a stable genius himself. Why doesn’t he cite grandpa’s sordid abuse of women and girls?
johnnyfins
(3,486 posts)Epstein as well as he did. He full on said he doesn't really follow the media coverage. Obvious LIE. TSF remembering Virginia Giuffre is not surprising at all. He has been following EVERY detail of the Epstein scandal since day one. What he is remembering is that someone told him what was in the files. It is on his mind every minute of every day. Let him talk, his weakness is that he cant shut up about it.
Hornedfrog2000
(866 posts)To keep their money.
Campaign, tweet, raise money, tweet, vacation. Wash rinse repeat. No tine to legislate
intheflow
(30,025 posts)They can work the front desk, they can restock towels, they can do laundry. That being said, the pipeline questions need to be asked.
uponit7771
(93,491 posts)Justice matters.
(9,447 posts)And no excuse based on how rich they are or how much power they have is allowed to shield them from accountability. Otherwise, they'll will keep wasting the lives of young women and men like the pedofelon does.
RoeVWade
(856 posts)nt*
otchmoson
(282 posts)I doubt that President Pedo was truly angry at Epstein for STEALING his employee; I would guess that he was angry that he hadn't been paid for the "product." Everything with President Pedo is transactional. I'm sure his employees were expendable--for the right price.
InstantGratification
(417 posts)Remember, the island (probably his other properties as well) had lots of hidden cameras. I don't know if he was actively black mailing people to get them to invest in his financial services company but, at the very least, he viewed those videos as insurance to push wealthy/powerful people to protect his interests.
The island was being run as a networking/recruiting tool for his financial services. Behind the scenes that business was the cover for him running the under age sex ring. As I see it, there were 4 categories of visitor there.
1. The legit finance customer who was looking into his financial services and enjoying a free junket to a tropical island resort in the process. Nothing illegal here.
2. Legit finance customer who gets caught doing something he doesn't want to be public. Think some high net worth guy like Bezos caught in a hot tub with someone other than his wife. She is of legal age and everything on the video is between consenting adults. Nothing illegal here either, just something Bezos wouldn't want to be public. He already went through one expensive divorce. Epstein has leverage here if he wants to use it.
3. This is where things take a dark turn. These people are using the financial services as cover too. They are there to prey on children. This is where the rumors swirling around Prince Andrew would place him. Epstein has a motive to protect them and they have a motive to protect him. Those tapes are Mutually Assured Destruction. Trump was likely in this group at the least. If Maxwell has video proving this, she has immense leverage over him
4. This is the worst of the lot. These people are recruiting/scouting new victims. Remember pedophiles have a victim profile. Once that minor is too old for them, they lose interest. Epstein needed a stream of new victims to replace the ones who outgrew his operation. Maxwell was certainly doing this for him, she probably wasn't the only one. Trump may have been as well. His association with beauty pageants, some of them for under 18s, would make him an ideal connection for Epstein.
Figarosmom
(9,903 posts)Underage towel girls at a spa in a resort/hotel? I'm not naive. And the kind of sleaze trump is I know what kind of "services" this man was offering or encouraging the girls to do in their "off time". Pimps pilfer only the best money makers. So if epstein was stealing trumps girls it wasnt for the best towel passer outer or massage.
azureblue
(2,678 posts)Trump's modeling agency was part of Jeffrey's pipeline:
https://www.motherjones.com
In the late 20th century, John Casablancas (founder of Elite Model Management) built the original model: turn teenage girls into glamorized assets. Jean-Luc Brunel took it international, founding MC2 and receiving at least $1 million from Jeffrey Epstein to expand operations. Paolo Zampolli cornered the visa angle, using U.S. immigration loopholes to bring in young foreign models — often from Eastern Europe and South America — under false pretenses.
In 1999, Donald Trump launched Trump Model Management. His agency followed the exact same pattern: bring girls in on tourist or “extraordinary talent” visas, overcrowd them in overpriced apartments, charge them for every service, and send them to work illegally while racking up debt they could never repay. Former models from his agency say they were instructed to lie to customs and start working immediately upon arrival.
Trump purchased the Miss USA, Miss Teen USA, and Miss Universe pageants — contests where he would later admit to entering dressing rooms unannounced. “I’ll go backstage before a show… and I’m allowed to go in because I’m the owner of the pageant,” he told Howard Stern in a 2005 interview. “You know, they’re standing there with no clothes… and so I sort of get away with things like that.”
So I think it goes like this:
Trump and Epstein were pedos, but it was Epstein's business. Trump gets a chance to buy the Miss Universe / Miss Teen franchise, and then open a modelling agency, so now he a has a fresh supply of victims. He uses Melania (since she was a call girl) and Maxwell to groom the girls, and get them work at Mar a Logo, where they will be in contact with pedos. Soften them up, in Trump Speak.
Meanwhile, Epstein buys Little and "Big" St. James Islands, to set up his pedo playground:
The 66-year-old financier bought Little St. James Island off this US Caribbean territory more than two decades ago and began to transform it. "Everybody called it 'Pedophile Island,'" said Kevin Goodrich, who is from St. Thomas and operates boat charters. "It's our dark corner."
One former worker described a strict "keep to yourself and do your thing" atmosphere when Epstein was present, implying workers were discouraged from observing his activities closely. This individual also recounted seeing young women on the property and believed them to be over 18, though they acknowledged some uncertainty.
Another worker noted the secrecy surrounding a particular steel safe in Epstein's office, suggesting it contained sensitive materials beyond just money. This worker also revealed that employees were not permitted to enter certain rooms, including the offices, without authorization.
FINALLY - Trump and Epstein have a human trafficking / pedo ring, mixed with money laundering - this accounts for that 1.1 billion Trump was depositing to Epstein's accounts in 4725 Transfers.
THIS is why Trump is frantic to stop the investigation. Not only pedophilia, not only international and domestic human trafficking, but a money laundering scheme, no doubt, with Putin. Don't forget that Putin bailed Trump out by giving him money through a shady Deuschbank loan, when no US bank would loan him money.
AND
This is why Trump is frantic to silence Maxwell - being a partner of Epstein, she knows the whole story and no doubt has some "insurance" stashed so she won't suddenly commit "suicide".
Can you source the "the 1.1 billion Trump was depositing to Epstein's accounts in 4725 Transfers"? I've followed this story pretty closely but never heard that claim; plus the articles I do find on are debunking it, stating that the records show that while Epstein received that amount, but necessarily from Trump.
My own theory is that Trump wants to hide the Epstein files not (just) because they incriminate him but because he wants to be able to use the info to blackmail or coerce Epstein's other "clients," which won't work if the info's already been made public.
Justice matters.
(9,447 posts)But she "could" be "silenced" in a minimum security prison easier than in a maximum security one?
If she shared copies of her incriminating evidence, though, that possibility may be enough to keep herself alive?
spanone
(141,080 posts)intrepidity
(8,555 posts)All anyone has to do is ask themself: Does Trump have even one shread of decency or integrity which would allow for even the tiniest doubt that he was fully complicit in the very worst we can imagine?
I know my answer.
snot
(11,528 posts)which of our leaders betrayed their country by making or acquiescing decisions against their voters' interests, because they were blackmailed into it? And which of our leaders might betray us in the future if the info about their sex crimes is allowed to continue to be held in secret?
Because I find it beyond belief that anyone willing to keep such info secret wouldn't also be willing to use it.