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JMCKUSICK

(3,118 posts)
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 09:46 PM Jun 19

I'm sorry but I have a couple of pet peeve triggers that keep going off.

1. To call Israel-Iran situation a conflict is making me want to vomit. Two countries are firing missiles at each other. They used to call that WAR.
2. For ten years and counting now, the MSM has described Russias assaults on elections around the world as meddling. Interfering with another countries elections used to be considered and act of WAR.

I'm sorry, but WTF?

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I'm sorry but I have a couple of pet peeve triggers that keep going off. (Original Post) JMCKUSICK Jun 19 OP
You are correct, John! SheltieLover Jun 19 #1
Agreed. I've stopped any real news watching since November 5 JMCKUSICK Jun 20 #20
Good for you! SheltieLover Jun 20 #21
Don't get me started. Giving key government jobs to unqualified donors used to be called corruption. unblock Jun 19 #2
I hear you! ananda Jun 19 #3
I hear you! yellow dahlia Jun 19 #4
Here's what I think. We call everything a "conflict" because a war hasn't been declared since WWII. usonian Jun 19 #5
And not one reporter on MSM has noted Netanyahu's Bev54 Jun 19 #6
The Israeli hospital does not hide an entry to a infrastructure of tunnels where only Hamas fighters, not question everything Jun 20 #14
It may be different... returnee Jun 20 #22
Sounds very familiar MorbidButterflyTat Jun 20 #16
Don't get me started on the Democrat(sic) party! BidenRocks Jun 19 #7
It is all part of Normalizing Authoratarism Nictuku Jun 19 #8
Yep. They have proven that they will normalize ANYTHING for clicks and ratings. Karasu Jun 19 #10
The MSM constantly uses the weakest, most insufficient language possible so as not to offend the sensibilities of Karasu Jun 19 #9
My favorite --- why just this afternoon's noon..... Bibi, referring to Iran as war criminals for 3Hotdogs Jun 19 #11
Agreed 100% Wiz Imp Jun 19 #12
The conflict thing may be a result of international law. TomSlick Jun 19 #13
there is also most likely an element of deliberate downplay and deescalation stopdiggin Jun 20 #15
My top pet peeve has always been starvation renamed "food insecurity." Vinca Jun 20 #17
Agreed! JMCKUSICK Jun 20 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 20 #18

SheltieLover

(71,439 posts)
1. You are correct, John!
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 10:00 PM
Jun 19

Breathe...deeply.

We can resist & protest, but we cannot control the media lies or the ruskie assets in govt.

Precisely why I've not watched any tv in over 10 yrs. I detest liars.

JMCKUSICK

(3,118 posts)
20. Agreed. I've stopped any real news watching since November 5
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 12:52 PM
Jun 20

And in most ways, I'm better off for it.

unblock

(55,378 posts)
2. Don't get me started. Giving key government jobs to unqualified donors used to be called corruption.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 10:05 PM
Jun 19

They had no problem calling Al gore a liar for one deliberately misinterpreted statement, but they *still* wince at even saying Donnie "has a problem with the truth" when he's literally the most thoroughly documented liar in history.

And they've long since stopped bothering even mentioning the grift of charging secret service random prices to stay at his residence because hey it's a hotel, so grifting is ok I guess.

usonian

(19,004 posts)
5. Here's what I think. We call everything a "conflict" because a war hasn't been declared since WWII.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 10:22 PM
Jun 19

A conflict opens loopholes for having a war without actually getting congress to declare one.

Korea? Vietnam? Iraq? Afghanistan? The list goes on.

Here's the "rationale"

https://govfacts.org/explainer/declaration-of-war-vs-authorization-for-use-of-military-force-how-america-goes-to-war

Regardless, he doesn't give a shit for laws.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-doomsday-plane-spotted-flying-2087848


Readying the E4B for the doomsday scenario
(so much nicer than a bunker, don't you think?)
and/or the flight to Moscow.

WHAT TO KNOW
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20415032

The E-4B "Nightwatch,"dubbed the "Doomsday Plane" is a militarized Boeing 747. It serves as the National Airborne Operations Center and is a key component of the National Military Command System for the president, the secretary of defense and the joint chiefs of staff.

In a national emergency or loss of ground command, the aircraft "provides a highly survivable command, control and communications center to direct U.S. forces, execute emergency war orders, and coordinate actions by civil authorities," the U.S. Air Force said.

It was used during the September 11, 2001 attacks.

----
Wonder if it has enough fuel to make it to Moscow?
With all those trumpcoins safely in a crypto wallet?
Oh, those tankers .....

I predicted a complete internet and infrastructure outage.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220295160

That sucker seems right on plan and on schedule.

До свидания


WAIT! "coordinate actions by civil authorities"
That's no damn good at all.

Bev54

(12,649 posts)
6. And not one reporter on MSM has noted Netanyahu's
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 10:36 PM
Jun 19

Complete hipocracy, complaining that Iran has hit a hospital where citizens, including babies are located. He goes on to say it is a war crime. JFC look in a mirror, I guess he just confessed he has committed war crimes.

question everything

(50,616 posts)
14. The Israeli hospital does not hide an entry to a infrastructure of tunnels where only Hamas fighters, not
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 12:40 AM
Jun 20

civilians can hide.

MorbidButterflyTat

(3,307 posts)
16. Sounds very familiar
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 12:49 AM
Jun 20

How many crimes has the fugly felon publicly confessed to? And - crickets.

BidenRocks

(1,836 posts)
7. Don't get me started on the Democrat(sic) party!
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 10:37 PM
Jun 19

The media are letting Democrat party go through as if it isn't an error.
Just fuck you!

Nictuku

(4,280 posts)
8. It is all part of Normalizing Authoratarism
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 10:44 PM
Jun 19

The Free Press is Complicit.
Elected Officials are Complicit.
Trump Voters or Non-Voters are Complicit.

Nothing is Normal Anymore.

Karasu

(1,591 posts)
9. The MSM constantly uses the weakest, most insufficient language possible so as not to offend the sensibilities of
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 10:49 PM
Jun 19

fascists. All opinions are equally valid, don't you know--no matter how uninformed.

It's infuriating.

3Hotdogs

(14,349 posts)
11. My favorite --- why just this afternoon's noon..... Bibi, referring to Iran as war criminals for
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 11:02 PM
Jun 19

targeting civilians.

Like I've posted before, what is genocide, depends on who is doing the genodeciding.

TomSlick

(12,584 posts)
13. The conflict thing may be a result of international law.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 11:52 PM
Jun 19

To avoid the question whether there is a "war" for purposes of the application of the Geneva Conventions, etc., international law does not talk about the "laws of war." Instead, the reference is to the "laws of international armed conflict" and "laws of non-international armed conflict."

The change is in the 1977 Protocol I (international armed conflict) and Protocol II (non-international armed conflict) to the Geneva Convention. The US signed Protocols I and II but never ratified them. The consensus of US international law experts is that by signing the Protocols, the US agreed to move toward ratification and, therefore, agreed to be bound by them. Israel, Turkey, and India have not signed the Protocols.

A good argument is made that since the Protocols have been adopted almost all countries, it is binding on all countries, whether or not signed or ratified.

stopdiggin

(14,013 posts)
15. there is also most likely an element of deliberate downplay and deescalation
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 12:40 AM
Jun 20

With the idea that regional (and perhaps intermittent?) conflict, while messy, horrible and degrading, is much preferable to WWIII - and people going nuclear ?

Or so the thinking goes.

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