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USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,392 posts)
Tue May 27, 2025, 02:42 PM May 27

Rahm Emmanuel

I am getting so tired of him and democrats like him piling on the Democratic Party with this narrative that the party lost because of being too woke and playing identity politics. This is such a myth perpetrated by republicans, the media, and democrats like Emmanuel. Since Obama both parties have been moving right, and Republicans have been playing the identity politics game. But somehow, Republicans talking about trans, CRT, DEI, woke is the Democrats playing identity politics. Last year all I saw from republicans were identity politics commercials while Democrats were putting out commercials discussing pocket book issues.

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Rahm Emmanuel (Original Post) USAFRetired_Liberal May 27 OP
Republicans invented identity politics SocialDemocrat61 May 27 #1
Republicans also invented class warfare politics. sop May 27 #5
Make that DownriverDem May 27 #44
Read this morning somewhere he's seriously concidering a run for the White House. I think he's dreaming. marble falls May 27 #2
Oh, gawd, no! Attilatheblond May 27 #4
Me, too. He may be an insider and a good strategist, but he's not the guy I'd want for President. marble falls May 27 #8
One of the MOST right wing democrats I've ever seen. I couldn't believe Obama picked him for his chief of staff BComplex May 28 #80
Post removed Post removed May 27 #9
I don't think he'll make it to the primaries. marble falls May 27 #10
To be completely honest, I'm surprised it took him this long. calimary May 27 #15
God no, that's the last thing the dem party needs. nt TBF May 27 #53
For people who have forgotten this guy - TBF May 27 #65
This message was self-deleted by its author TBF May 27 #54
No thank you I'll pass ! kimbutgar May 27 #66
Rahm Emmanuel for POTUS will put a divide in the Democratic Party when PufPuf23 May 27 #70
dreaming jaymac May 28 #74
He won't be my choice drmeow May 28 #87
What I hear from Chicago ... Jkanad May 28 #88
The first term did not go swimingly as a I recall. marble falls May 28 #89
So he's saying Democratic voters are the problem? leftstreet May 27 #3
It's a lazy and convenient excuse. Show us the woke bills. Where's the identity policy that Kamala proposed? In It to Win It May 27 #6
It was misogyny, that not just extends to the candidate, but because the party supports the rights of women Walleye May 27 #7
It was just as much racism as misogyny. UniqueUserName May 27 #11
True because Democrats protect the rights of all races. But Black people voted for Trump too you know. Walleye May 27 #14
Agreed. But I truly thought women would value their own rights to bodily autonomy over racism. UniqueUserName May 27 #26
Yes, also the "pro lifers" will never vote for a Democrat because we "murder babies" Walleye May 27 #58
White Women - you have to did into the cross tabs; speak easy May 27 #31
IDK - we elected Barack Obama twice. Yet we can't elect a woman. nt TBF May 27 #56
This is a DNC trial balloon from Pelosi and Co. JCMach1 May 27 #12
YES get the red out May 27 #13
We got defined by the opposition. bucolic_frolic May 27 #16
Exactly this. n/t mtngirl47 May 27 #22
Hear, hear! LoisB May 27 #41
You won't like this latest news then: Fiendish Thingy May 27 #17
Agree. Plus, he thinks he's a Dem version of Trump Bobstandard May 27 #63
K&R spanone May 27 #18
Ummmm WiVoter May 27 #19
K & R SunSeeker May 27 #20
I would never vote for him or his dino Greybnk48 May 27 #21
Hmm, Bernie. Bohunk68 May 28 #76
Yuck! people May 27 #23
I've despised him for a long time. Shipwack May 27 #24
Obama consulted with multiple folks of varying stripe. And then he did what he thought was correct thing to do ... marble falls May 28 #77
Wasn't he Obama's boy for a while? k_buddy762 May 27 #25
He was Obama's first chief of staff fujiyamasan May 27 #40
agreed proud patriot May 27 #27
Nope. Ping Tung May 27 #28
even more affable than me and Reagan put together Tetrachloride May 27 #29
agree blogslug May 27 #30
Rahm? Really? LilElf70 May 27 #32
I like Rebl2 May 27 #62
Just no. Scrivener7 May 27 #33
Magic eight ball says mn9driver May 27 #34
This is the framing that is being used to continually diss the Democratic Party and excuse or distract from the Martin68 May 27 #35
correct Skittles May 28 #72
Absolutely No! traveler50 May 27 #36
Hate him. returnee May 27 #37
He's always been Faux pas May 27 #38
I don't know, I think he's OK. When the time comes.... reACTIONary May 27 #39
I much prefer the Tim Walz approach... Nanjeanne May 27 #42
It doesn't mean there's not a kernel of truth in there johnnyplankton May 27 #43
Any theatre that has urinals open where men and women walk by is just insane. Has nothing to do Nanjeanne May 27 #45
Harvard University-owned American Repertory Theater, Emerson College's Paramount and Cutler Majestic... johnnyplankton May 27 #46
Poor decision and just dumb. But not a reason to have an anti gender neutral bathroom policy or to Nanjeanne May 27 #47
Not sure what you mean by "teams issues"... johnnyplankton May 27 #48
Damn auto correct. Nanjeanne May 27 #50
Conservacrat Clouds Passing May 27 #49
Especially since we did NOT lose the election Eliot Rosewater May 27 #51
Heartily recommended bagimin May 27 #69
In this climate I doubt he would win a primary. Nanjeanne May 27 #52
USAFRetired_Liberal ..... Mustellus May 27 #55
Recommend AZProgressive May 27 #57
This!!! FakeNoose May 28 #81
rahm marti May 27 #59
That asinine diagnosis is the opposite of reality. pat_k May 27 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author Tootbsb May 27 #61
Democrats aren't perfect. Republicans are perfect for the rich. czarjak May 27 #64
Rahm is a DINO, Democrat in name only. Buddyzbuddy May 27 #67
The Reps push that narrative, the Dems spend little time on this. kerry-is-my-prez May 27 #68
Agreed seta1950 May 27 #71
Do not trust him Pachamama May 28 #73
They ran identity politics commercials and we ran pocketbook issues. And lost. lees1975 May 28 #75
My point is USAFRetired_Liberal May 28 #79
I think sometimes Democrats do get caught up in identify politics and don't focus on the issues voters care about. lees1975 May 28 #84
The general population, when surveyed on specific issues... returnee May 28 #90
If this was a trail baloon, Prairie_Seagull May 28 #78
Yes, well said. Particularly tired of the Democrats and media who fall for this. travelingthrulife May 28 #82
Nope his ilk kept us too in the center IbogaProject May 28 #83
I will not support Rahm. full stop. nt LittleGirl May 28 #85
He wants to plead with democrats to not abandon neoliberalism. Balatro May 28 #86
Thats what we do. quakerboy May 28 #91

SocialDemocrat61

(5,153 posts)
1. Republicans invented identity politics
Tue May 27, 2025, 02:46 PM
May 27

“If you’re white straight and Christian, you’d better vote for us.” Anyone who accuses democrats of identity politics is just parroting a right wing talking point.

sop

(15,159 posts)
5. Republicans also invented class warfare politics.
Tue May 27, 2025, 02:55 PM
May 27

Any Democrat who talks about economic injustice and wealth disparity in America is accused of class warfare. As Warren Buffet noted: "There's class warfare, all right, but it's my class, the rich class, that's making war, and we're winning."

DownriverDem

(6,865 posts)
44. Make that
Tue May 27, 2025, 05:37 PM
May 27

repub Christian. They sure aren't true Christians. They don't follow the Prince of Peace. They don't follow the Sermon on the Mount. They are such hypocrites.

marble falls

(66,993 posts)
2. Read this morning somewhere he's seriously concidering a run for the White House. I think he's dreaming.
Tue May 27, 2025, 02:52 PM
May 27

marble falls

(66,993 posts)
8. Me, too. He may be an insider and a good strategist, but he's not the guy I'd want for President.
Tue May 27, 2025, 03:00 PM
May 27

BComplex

(9,490 posts)
80. One of the MOST right wing democrats I've ever seen. I couldn't believe Obama picked him for his chief of staff
Wed May 28, 2025, 10:24 AM
May 28

right out of the gate. Rahm is as right wing as they come for a democrat.

Response to marble falls (Reply #2)

calimary

(87,033 posts)
15. To be completely honest, I'm surprised it took him this long.
Tue May 27, 2025, 03:32 PM
May 27

I suspect he wants to keep the presidency for as long as he draws breath. I suspect he really likes the power, and LOVES the immunity protections.

Response to marble falls (Reply #2)

kimbutgar

(25,540 posts)
66. No thank you I'll pass !
Tue May 27, 2025, 08:58 PM
May 27

He’s a corporate Dem. We need a fighter not an institutionalist!

PufPuf23

(9,482 posts)
70. Rahm Emmanuel for POTUS will put a divide in the Democratic Party when
Tue May 27, 2025, 10:09 PM
May 27

Democrats best work together.

Rahm Emmanuel is best left in the rearview mirror of Democratic politics.

Youth, the Left, anti-war and progressives and similar are already being set up as scapegoats.

Same as it ever was.

Since 1968 just about every major Democratic move was brought to the top of the political table from those groups.

Since 1968 those same groups have been repeatedly scapegoated for political losses and ideals continually compromised.

The USA is dying because of the distribution of wealth and income, religious fantasy and provincialism.

jaymac

(30 posts)
74. dreaming
Wed May 28, 2025, 06:00 AM
May 28

I say Bah Humbug to Rahm running. he's surely not what democrats want. like James Carville he's not said one good word about any of the potential prez runners and it seems he can only damn democrats who look at the country we live in and say we have long standing problems that should be recognized and addressed. Rahm saying dems are "woke and weak" undermines this. he's not helping, he's harming.

leftstreet

(36,851 posts)
3. So he's saying Democratic voters are the problem?
Tue May 27, 2025, 02:53 PM
May 27

After all it was 6+ million of them who voted for Biden, but not for Harris.

In It to Win It

(11,062 posts)
6. It's a lazy and convenient excuse. Show us the woke bills. Where's the identity policy that Kamala proposed?
Tue May 27, 2025, 02:59 PM
May 27

It's like Bill Maher saying the party has gone too woke... and then shows a clip from a dating show of a girl talking about Black Lives Matter as if that is representative of Democrats. This woman is not a Democratic symbol. She didn't campaign or run for anything. No one voted for her. Yet, somehow she's representative of why Democrats lose.

Walleye

(41,387 posts)
7. It was misogyny, that not just extends to the candidate, but because the party supports the rights of women
Tue May 27, 2025, 02:59 PM
May 27

UniqueUserName

(366 posts)
11. It was just as much racism as misogyny.
Tue May 27, 2025, 03:09 PM
May 27

53% of white women voted for Trump ---only 7% less than their male counterparts.

Walleye

(41,387 posts)
14. True because Democrats protect the rights of all races. But Black people voted for Trump too you know.
Tue May 27, 2025, 03:24 PM
May 27

UniqueUserName

(366 posts)
26. Agreed. But I truly thought women would value their own rights to bodily autonomy over racism.
Tue May 27, 2025, 04:08 PM
May 27

Well, I thought more black men would value civil rights over male privilege.

One thing that I have to give Trump credit for: He can bring out the worst in humanity. I've never been so disappointed in my fellow citizens. I am merely trying to accept what it says about the country. I thought we were better than that.

I will still vote for Democrats. I will still be engaged. But I can't deny that people are worse than I thought. 2016, you could argue, "They didn't know. They wanted change." You can't argue that they didn't know this time. Well, someone can argue that and will. I won't subscribe to that opinion. Roughly one third of US citizens are total shits.

speak easy

(11,947 posts)
31. White Women - you have to did into the cross tabs;
Tue May 27, 2025, 04:20 PM
May 27

White Women with college/some college voted Harris 58 - 41
White Women with no college voted Trump 63 - 35

bucolic_frolic

(51,383 posts)
16. We got defined by the opposition.
Tue May 27, 2025, 03:43 PM
May 27

It wasn't enough to call Donald Trump "weird". We didn't paint him with 2025 enough, and scream enough warning signs. We bought ad time. They bought the media.

Fiendish Thingy

(19,983 posts)
17. You won't like this latest news then:
Tue May 27, 2025, 03:44 PM
May 27

Emmanuel has openly signaled he intends to run for president in 2028.

He will never be the nominee, of course, but can you imagine the damage he will do to the Dems with his anti-progressive negativity during the primaries?

Bobstandard

(1,946 posts)
63. Agree. Plus, he thinks he's a Dem version of Trump
Tue May 27, 2025, 08:30 PM
May 27

He’s an asshole, knows it, and thinks many Dems think it will require a Trump-like asshole to beat Trump. Even if that’s true, he’s the wrong guy. In a ‘oh hell no,’ kinda way.

Greybnk48

(10,564 posts)
21. I would never vote for him or his dino
Tue May 27, 2025, 03:56 PM
May 27

agenda. He’s one of those politicians who PUSHED the Democratic Party so far right just to win at all costs. Fuck him.

SI want what Bernie and AOC and Elizabeth Warren and Biden and Harris and Walz are selling. Not capitulating to the point of selling the rights of Unions, Gay people, people of color and women down the river to win. Win what?

Bohunk68

(1,399 posts)
76. Hmm, Bernie.
Wed May 28, 2025, 08:13 AM
May 28

Still got his 2016 sticker on my front door. Him and AOC are drawing large crowds. Not all of us over 80 are senile. Hell, I just got down splitting and stacking two full cords of firewood and going out today and do some more. Although, I am walking like Biden this morning. Rahm has always been more of a right-winger than a Dem.

people

(790 posts)
23. Yuck!
Tue May 27, 2025, 04:05 PM
May 27

As mayor of Chicago, he covered up a video for a very long time of a young man being shot in the back by the Chicago Police. The police had lied about the circumstances under which they shot this person. I would never want him to be the democratic nominee.

Shipwack

(2,773 posts)
24. I've despised him for a long time.
Tue May 27, 2025, 04:06 PM
May 27

He kept pulling Obama rightward*, and openly ridiculed progressives.

His take surprises me not at all.

If I never here his name again it will be too soon.

*Of course, Obama had agency. If he didn’t at least partially agree with Rahm on issues Rahm would not have been in the Whitehouse.

marble falls

(66,993 posts)
77. Obama consulted with multiple folks of varying stripe. And then he did what he thought was correct thing to do ...
Wed May 28, 2025, 08:41 AM
May 28

... he was more conservative on some issues than I liked, but what he was, was a good American President.

I heard Hillary suggested that there be a an Obama/Bill Clinton ticket in 2028 that would run for one term.

How about a Hillary Clinton/Barrack Obama ticket instead. Too bad their ages are too far along.

We have Democrats who would win against any Republican I can think of if we'd only get them the press that GOP candidates get.

LilElf70

(976 posts)
32. Rahm? Really?
Tue May 27, 2025, 04:24 PM
May 27

I don't think I can deal with another electoral loss. If we do not win in 28, I can almost guarantee an authoritarian society. This in turn will almost assure that we won't go back to a democracy for a long, long time. As society sits TODAY, I don't know how many years, and maybe decades, it will take, to undo what damage Trump has already done and will do in the next 3.

Quit pushing Rahm. It's a waste of time. There are much better candidates with great ideas.

Rebl2

(16,672 posts)
62. I like
Tue May 27, 2025, 08:08 PM
May 27

him about as much as James Carville, which isn’t very much. Also he will be in his late sixties by the time he would be president if he were to be elected.

Martin68

(26,146 posts)
35. This is the framing that is being used to continually diss the Democratic Party and excuse or distract from the
Tue May 27, 2025, 04:43 PM
May 27

Last edited Wed May 28, 2025, 12:28 PM - Edit history (1)

travesties being inflicted on our nation and the world by the Trump administration.

reACTIONary

(6,561 posts)
39. I don't know, I think he's OK. When the time comes....
Tue May 27, 2025, 04:52 PM
May 27

... I'll give him fair consideration along with those who are also running.

Nanjeanne

(6,290 posts)
42. I much prefer the Tim Walz approach...
Tue May 27, 2025, 05:20 PM
May 27
Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz says Democrats should not abandon defending the rights of transgender people as they figure out how to win again.

The former Democratic nominee for vice president spoke to The Independent about the issue, which became a major weapon in Donald Trump’s campaign ads against former Vice President Kamala Harris.

“It's a mistake,” he insisted. “And here's the thing: we need to tell people your cost of eggs, your health care being denied, your homeowner’s insurance, your lack of getting warning on tornadoes coming has nothing to do with someone's gender.”

In recent months, some Democrats have hinted that Democrats should avoid talking about transgender athletes from participating in women’s sports. Gov. Gavin Newsom of California told Turning Point USA head Charlie Kirk on his podcast that trans participation in women’s sports was “unfair.”

“I think we have to figure out how to not get sucked in and allow that to be the focal point only, and that we can multitask, and we can hold several things simultaneously,” he said.

“We can protect LGBTQ rights and basic human rights at the same time, we can make sure that we hold drug companies accountable for high prices.”


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/tim-walz-trans-rights-democrats-kamala-harris-b2754028.html]

johnnyplankton

(551 posts)
43. It doesn't mean there's not a kernel of truth in there
Tue May 27, 2025, 05:22 PM
May 27

I live in Boston and go to the theater multiple times a week. There are/were disingenuous land acknowledgments before each performance by wealthy white people that seem more like virtue signaling. To be more "inclusive," many theaters decided to make their bathrooms all-gender, often with exposed urinals where women can walk by. I don't see how that helped anyone, and even liberal theatergoers complained. Many have reverted to the common-sense practice of having patrons use the bathroom of the sex of which they identify instead of making everybody uncomfortable.

Those things did give people the impression of woke culture. Unfortunately, the result was fascism...

Nanjeanne

(6,290 posts)
45. Any theatre that has urinals open where men and women walk by is just insane. Has nothing to do
Tue May 27, 2025, 05:45 PM
May 27

with gender neutral bathrooms that are completely comfortable and safe and not a problem for any gender. The exist all over the world and in our own homes.

That theater you frequent did something ridiculous. It’s not policy. It’s stupidity.

johnnyplankton

(551 posts)
46. Harvard University-owned American Repertory Theater, Emerson College's Paramount and Cutler Majestic...
Tue May 27, 2025, 05:51 PM
May 27

Most of the theaters had the open urinal policy and most have either stopped or made single stall bathrooms. Really tone deaf.

Nanjeanne

(6,290 posts)
47. Poor decision and just dumb. But not a reason to have an anti gender neutral bathroom policy or to
Tue May 27, 2025, 06:06 PM
May 27

confuse stupid design with trans issues.

Eliot Rosewater

(33,127 posts)
51. Especially since we did NOT lose the election
Tue May 27, 2025, 06:36 PM
May 27
?si=oXDSe01oy9qJWvq2


I have PLEADED with people to watch this, and there is a part 2

Nanjeanne

(6,290 posts)
52. In this climate I doubt he would win a primary.
Tue May 27, 2025, 06:46 PM
May 27

Neoliberal who has a record of disparaging progressives, the accusations of corruption in his administration, not to mention his disgraceful handling of the Laquan McDonald murder, is not anyone who should be the face of the Democratic Party. In fact, he is a symbol of the very failings Democrats must overcome to build trust and credibility with the public.

AZProgressive

(29,698 posts)
57. Recommend
Tue May 27, 2025, 06:52 PM
May 27

I wont support Emanuel in a primary because of his track record as mayor of Chicago where he's best known for busting teachers unions and covering up the shooting of Laquan McDonald so it is a hard pass for me.

You're right the right says whatever they want when it comes white racist identity politics but Democratic voters rather than politicians are urged to be silent when it comes to backlash against marginalized communities. That is another theme with the Democrats is they want better voters instead of better politicians.

FakeNoose

(37,815 posts)
81. This!!!
Wed May 28, 2025, 10:30 AM
May 28

There's a deafening silence from the Democrats of the Chicagoland area, and much of the Midwest. Does Nancy Pelosi even understand why Rahm Emmanuel isn't the Party's first choice? Maybe not even our 10th choice?

I pledge to support whomever our Party nominates in 2028, but I sure as hell hope it won't be Emmanuel.

pat_k

(11,421 posts)
60. That asinine diagnosis is the opposite of reality.
Tue May 27, 2025, 07:43 PM
May 27

Anat Shenker-Osorio is the clearest voice I have heard on how the Democratic consultant class has been fucking up the party for decades.

She was on the That Trippi Show April 18th, (episode: "If you want to touch a nerve, you have to touch a nerve " )

Joe has has called the episode perhaps the most important episode to date. I absolutely agree and wanted to encourage anyone who missed it to find the time to listen.

And, even more importantly, do whatever you can to help make Anat's Freedom Over Fascism Toolkit the go-to guide for ourselves, our electeds, our community leaders, our state parties, the DNC, 2026 candidates, and any other person or entity committed to reclaiming our government from the bullies and the billionaires they serve. Help ignite American optimism and belief in our own power to build a society and government we can be proud of.

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Response to USAFRetired_Liberal (Original post)

Buddyzbuddy

(1,161 posts)
67. Rahm is a DINO, Democrat in name only.
Tue May 27, 2025, 09:20 PM
May 27

Chicago couldn't get rid of him fast enough. He is what the press refer to as a "centrist". That term is used so it's more easily digestible. But IMHO he's right of center. I think it was Clinton that he advised him to ignore the left wing of the party, it may have been Obama. Either way, he's bad for Democrats.

kerry-is-my-prez

(10,074 posts)
68. The Reps push that narrative, the Dems spend little time on this.
Tue May 27, 2025, 09:28 PM
May 27

I hate to say, but it must be working for them to keep doing it. The trans athlete thing is their favorite topic. Nevermind, as a female athlete, that was the furthest thing from my mind. And since when do Republicans give a crap about female athletes? We were always given second best of everything.

lees1975

(6,683 posts)
75. They ran identity politics commercials and we ran pocketbook issues. And lost.
Wed May 28, 2025, 08:12 AM
May 28

Hmm. What point are you making with that, exactly?

 

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,392 posts)
79. My point is
Wed May 28, 2025, 09:30 AM
May 28

Republicans constantly play up identity politics but somehow Democrats get blamed for focusing on identity politics when they don’t and not focusing on supposedly the issues voters care about like “pocketbook issues” but they actually do

lees1975

(6,683 posts)
84. I think sometimes Democrats do get caught up in identify politics and don't focus on the issues voters care about.
Wed May 28, 2025, 11:54 AM
May 28

I listen every day to WCPT, the progressive talk radio station here in Chicago, mainly because they carry Stephanie Miller and Thom Hartmann, and because their local hosts are top notch. But their programming sometimes has a tendency to drift into identity politics and it loses me. I'm as progressive as they come, when it comes to diversity, equality and inclusion, believe people have the right to live their life the way they want, and those are things Democrats stand up for. But sometimes they do get in the way. And they are easily distorted and turned into lies by the other side.

Focusing on the message and controlling the narrative are long time Rahm Emmanuel themes. And he successfully won elected office by that focus.

returnee

(600 posts)
90. The general population, when surveyed on specific issues...
Wed May 28, 2025, 03:25 PM
May 28

…are way more progressive than generally thought. I always think of Lawrence Lessig’s statistics showing essentially zero correlation of popular opinion and anything coming out of Congress. That’s ZERO.
We need change all around, and not Emmanuel.

travelingthrulife

(2,862 posts)
82. Yes, well said. Particularly tired of the Democrats and media who fall for this.
Wed May 28, 2025, 10:33 AM
May 28

Republicans will always be liars.

IbogaProject

(4,634 posts)
83. Nope his ilk kept us too in the center
Wed May 28, 2025, 11:27 AM
May 28

And folks like him thought courting racist GOP women would somehow work rather than keep up with public sentiment. The billionaires did their part avoiding having us run on the success of the big spending bills from 21 & 22, which were impaired by not being what Biden originally requested. He wanted 5.5 billion over 10 years and we got maybe mid twos instead. Which was great, it was easy to mention how so many bridges and roads were getting fixed. Those projects injected money into our economy. The child tax credit was solid though only one year, it really boosted our economy. I liked that issue as it was easy to frame against infrastructure was the one thing I had hoped T45 could have done some good, even if it was full of grift, but he never got around to it as it was too hard and he didn't want to make a deal to fix our stuff. We had to make deals to get and keep the Affordable Care Act and for those Biden spending bills. Then I pivoted to othering the wealthy who benefit from the T tax cuts and how they never spend their money quick and rarely locally it just gets shuffled around eventually.

 

Balatro

(51 posts)
86. He wants to plead with democrats to not abandon neoliberalism.
Wed May 28, 2025, 01:29 PM
May 28

It needs to be abandoned. Rahm needs to go away. He did enough damage with Chicago and the destruction of the 50-state strategy.

quakerboy

(14,447 posts)
91. Thats what we do.
Wed May 28, 2025, 10:21 PM
May 28

Ive noticed that we Democrats, as a party are usually more interested in blaming the left than fighting the right.

Id also argue the party was moving right since Carter, at least.

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