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misanthrope

(9,337 posts)
Sat May 24, 2025, 05:55 PM May 2025

Harvard University plays its trump card

Last edited Wed May 28, 2025, 12:29 AM - Edit history (1)

In response to the attacks from the Trump administration, Harvard University is offering free online courses in U.S. civics, the Constitution and how to recognize dictatorship.

https://pll.harvard.edu/subject/government

Scroll down, and you will see the free courses. Enroll if you want, but most importantly, spread word. This is invaluable not just for educating citizens but for summoning good will and support for the university in its fight.

EDIT TO ADD: Many of these classes were offered previous to Harvard's entanglement with Trump. There appears to be no class specifically named for recognizing autocracy.

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Harvard University plays its trump card (Original Post) misanthrope May 2025 OP
Brilliant malaise May 2025 #1
They should also offer a course on how to recognize a psychopath, symptoms, behavior, treatment options, etc. Irish_Dem May 2025 #2
100% agree. That might sting a little too chicoescuela May 2025 #8
A entire Abnormal Psychology seminar could be taught just using Trump and his crime syndicate members as examples. Irish_Dem May 2025 #14
Might as well add some historical figures such as Pol Pot, Stalin, etc. just for reference. erronis May 2025 #17
Most kids don't know who these people are. Irish_Dem May 2025 #23
And that's why history repeats itself. Especially in societies that try to erase the past. erronis May 2025 #24
The goal of the class is to teach psychology, not history. Irish_Dem May 2025 #26
That may be true, but it wouln't hurt them to know Klondike Kat May 2025 #54
Weelll... ananda May 2025 #34
excellent! markie May 2025 #3
Nice! hlthe2b May 2025 #4
I want 'How to rid yourself of a tyrant 101" C_U_L8R May 2025 #5
K & R Nevilledog May 2025 #6
I love it! Pisces May 2025 #7
Well done, Harvard! (nt) Paladin May 2025 #9
OMG (as they say 😁) this is the perfect link for me to send walkingman May 2025 #10
Civics class! ChazInAz May 2025 #29
Something like 30 years ago I was helping a friend study for her citizenship test EverHopeful May 2025 #51
Another idea misanthrope May 2025 #43
Great idea - you are correct. walkingman May 2025 #65
Ok, Harvard, you obviously have some pretty smart people there. Biophilic May 2025 #11
They are f'ing around with the smartest people in the world MadameButterfly May 2025 #46
I enrolled! UpInArms May 2025 #12
Oh, I don't have time but man, a course from Harvard MadameButterfly May 2025 #47
Great plan! Thanks, Harvard! Hekate May 2025 #13
We had to take civics when I was in High School and I am glad that Harvard is offering these courses LetMyPeopleVote May 2025 #15
Brilliant spanone May 2025 #16
Now if only [Redacted] and the entire regime would sign up and take them... n/r TygrBright May 2025 #18
BRAVO orangecrush May 2025 #19
YESSSSssssss !!!!! What a great idea! liberalla May 2025 #20
DAMN RIGHT, OR SHOULD I SAY DAMN LEFT...... a kennedy May 2025 #21
It is not "in response to the attacks." Harvard has been offering these free courses for years. Ms. Toad May 2025 #22
I heard the same thing you said also mentioned today and others noted misanthrope May 2025 #44
They were listed as free on the site 2 years ago. Ms. Toad May 2025 #45
Ms. Toad is correct once again TnDem May 2025 #53
John Harvard approves. usonian May 2025 #25
'courses in U.S. civics, the Constitution and how to recognize dictatorship' elleng May 2025 #27
I found the free Constitution course, ... aggiesal May 2025 #28
Oh, snap! synni May 2025 #30
Sharing far and wide. Mr. Jinx May 2025 #31
Credit wblffmike May 2025 #32
Thank you for posting this important and valuable resource! Tanuki May 2025 #33
Great news! Thank you and thank Harvard. It begins to fill a large hole in US education! . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #35
I signed up and already did the first class. tRump will hate it! marybourg May 2025 #36
We had civics in 8th grade. boonecreek May 2025 #37
That's a very good thing to do. Very good! 👍 dchill May 2025 #38
Awesome. Thanks underpants May 2025 #39
Given the attacks by Trump and the support of those attacks from the right, I believe Scalded Nun May 2025 #40
K & R & Bookmarked! SunSeeker May 2025 #41
I read once... czarjak May 2025 #42
K & R . . . Journeyman May 2025 #48
Touch Harvard! Cha May 2025 #49
Awesome idea! Dark n Stormy Knight May 2025 #50
THIS!!! calimary May 2025 #61
K&R mdbl May 2025 #52
If you take it you can put on you resume.... frogstar0 May 2025 #55
If one is a grandparent or parent of a highschooler. Or really smart middle schooler Prairie_Seagull May 2025 #56
Leadership and Character in Uncertain Times - You Hear That, Donnie? panfluteman May 2025 #57
Shared on my social media! hamsterjill May 2025 #58
Great link. When I see what they offer I understand why Trump is going after them. twodogsbarking May 2025 #59
Now Trump will have their internet access cut in the interests of national security. twodogsbarking May 2025 #60
Harvard is offering free courses Trump's Idiots could benefit from LetMyPeopleVote May 2025 #62
I admit I wasn't the best student at civics back then (2004-2009, around that time), but then again, I learn differently tornado34jh May 2025 #63
It appears as if some have a deadline to complete next month. Looks like they have been available since 2024? Evolve Dammit May 2025 #64

Irish_Dem

(78,963 posts)
2. They should also offer a course on how to recognize a psychopath, symptoms, behavior, treatment options, etc.
Sat May 24, 2025, 06:01 PM
May 2025

Irish_Dem

(78,963 posts)
14. A entire Abnormal Psychology seminar could be taught just using Trump and his crime syndicate members as examples.
Sat May 24, 2025, 06:29 PM
May 2025

erronis

(22,383 posts)
17. Might as well add some historical figures such as Pol Pot, Stalin, etc. just for reference.
Sat May 24, 2025, 06:57 PM
May 2025

Irish_Dem

(78,963 posts)
23. Most kids don't know who these people are.
Sat May 24, 2025, 07:10 PM
May 2025

I would use more modern figures, the serial killers, famous mob bosses, TV and movie figures, celebrities, etc.

erronis

(22,383 posts)
24. And that's why history repeats itself. Especially in societies that try to erase the past.
Sat May 24, 2025, 07:16 PM
May 2025

Here we are, again.

Irish_Dem

(78,963 posts)
26. The goal of the class is to teach psychology, not history.
Sat May 24, 2025, 07:20 PM
May 2025

Last edited Sat May 24, 2025, 07:53 PM - Edit history (1)

To produce clinicians.

Most psych majors will be horrified to see psychopaths running the country.

ananda

(34,243 posts)
34. Weelll...
Sat May 24, 2025, 08:01 PM
May 2025

IMO, can psychopathy really be treated?

I would think that they would have to be separated
from the rest of human society.

Also, I cannot imagine a psychopath even taking
this course.

IOW, I really see the offering of this course as a
dig at Republicans, the great majority of which
are indeed psychopaths.

Nevilledog

(54,709 posts)
6. K & R
Sat May 24, 2025, 06:08 PM
May 2025

My 78 yo mother-in-law is coming for a 6 week stay. While we generally agree on social and political issues, she has several friends that are Fox viewing morons. She never feels like she's strong enough to fight back when they spout their lies, but I'm hoping she'll gain some confidence to state her position if we do some of these courses together. I'll let you know.

walkingman

(10,236 posts)
10. OMG (as they say 😁) this is the perfect link for me to send
Sat May 24, 2025, 06:22 PM
May 2025

to my friends and family that are Trumpers! They will totally flip out and probably never speak to me again.

Something like -

"Ok, I'm sending you this....free online courses at Harvard University, just in case you have forgotten your civics class in HS or College. We all need a refresher from time to time. Hope you are doing well - this administration is making me sick at my stomach. ☮ "

ChazInAz

(2,984 posts)
29. Civics class!
Sat May 24, 2025, 07:27 PM
May 2025

I was talking with one of my housemates last night, a beautiful young British lady who's studying for her citizenship exam. We agreed that most Americans younger than I am (75) wouldn't be able to pass it.

EverHopeful

(635 posts)
51. Something like 30 years ago I was helping a friend study for her citizenship test
Sun May 25, 2025, 05:05 AM
May 2025

and was embarrassed by how much I'd forgotten in such a relatively short time away from HS civics classes.

Definitely time for me to sign up for these classes.

misanthrope

(9,337 posts)
43. Another idea
Sat May 24, 2025, 10:21 PM
May 2025

Send it to them and tie it in with approaching 250th anniversary of the nation in 13 months. Tell them you thought it would be a great way for everyone to celebrate our rights as Americans that the Founding Fathers risked so much for and that we need to preserve. Frame it as both fun, beneficial and patriotic. Don't work in any digs at the POTUS, that way they could be more prone to take you up on it.

MadameButterfly

(3,696 posts)
46. They are f'ing around with the smartest people in the world
Sun May 25, 2025, 01:39 AM
May 2025

If it weren't so serious I'd be making popcorn.

Maybe I'll make the popcorn anyway.

UpInArms

(53,897 posts)
12. I enrolled!
Sat May 24, 2025, 06:27 PM
May 2025

Thank you … thank you … thank you!

ETA

Have been sharing this madly and gladly!

MadameButterfly

(3,696 posts)
47. Oh, I don't have time but man, a course from Harvard
Sun May 25, 2025, 01:42 AM
May 2025

how cool that would be!

Maybe I sign up and bail before the exams

LetMyPeopleVote

(173,914 posts)
15. We had to take civics when I was in High School and I am glad that Harvard is offering these courses
Sat May 24, 2025, 06:39 PM
May 2025

Ms. Toad

(38,062 posts)
22. It is not "in response to the attacks." Harvard has been offering these free courses for years.
Sat May 24, 2025, 07:05 PM
May 2025

I took free online courses from Harvard close to 2 decades ago, and several of the civics courses on the page you linked to were offered in 2023 (according to the Wayback machine).

misanthrope

(9,337 posts)
44. I heard the same thing you said also mentioned today and others noted
Sat May 24, 2025, 10:25 PM
May 2025

that some of the courses pertaining to what I mentioned up top were made free just in the last few days.

Ms. Toad

(38,062 posts)
45. They were listed as free on the site 2 years ago.
Sat May 24, 2025, 10:52 PM
May 2025

At least as near as I can tell from your description of the courses. (https://pll.harvard.edu/subject/government" target="_blank">Here's the page from two years ago in March) And Harvard has participated in offering free courses through EdX since 2012.

 

TnDem

(1,390 posts)
53. Ms. Toad is correct once again
Sun May 25, 2025, 07:00 AM
May 2025

I took a free course called "Justice" over five years ago.

usonian

(23,041 posts)
25. John Harvard approves.
Sat May 24, 2025, 07:17 PM
May 2025


Or as The Lampoon put it: "Johnny on the pot"

Compare. Our Dicktater all sore-ass over Mexican toilet paper.


Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
35. Great news! Thank you and thank Harvard. It begins to fill a large hole in US education! . . . nt
Sat May 24, 2025, 08:04 PM
May 2025

marybourg

(13,587 posts)
36. I signed up and already did the first class. tRump will hate it!
Sat May 24, 2025, 08:14 PM
May 2025

He is mentioned for his Muslim exclusion order. True and unbiased statements about the history of slavery and the Civil Rights movement are featured. FDR, LBJ, Obama and Biden ( read the transcript as it scrolls down. At one point Obama was substituted for Biden) are shown in a positive light.

boonecreek

(1,352 posts)
37. We had civics in 8th grade.
Sat May 24, 2025, 08:19 PM
May 2025

Had to pass a Constitution test to graduate. IIRC we had to ace it.
I'm definitely taking a couple of these. Thanks for posting.

Scalded Nun

(1,584 posts)
40. Given the attacks by Trump and the support of those attacks from the right, I believe
Sat May 24, 2025, 09:14 PM
May 2025

Harvard should consider rescinding all degrees from those GOPers involved.

Rescind on the basis of lack of ethical standards and their refusal to honor, support and defend our constitution.

Every law school in this country should pull those degrees. They are an embarrassment to the schools from where they graduated.


Just like the ABA should revoke law licenses from all lawyers in the Trump administration, including the Attorney General and FBI director (if he has one). That is assuming the ABA can do that. I do not know for certain, but if they can, they should.

frogstar0

(210 posts)
55. If you take it you can put on you resume....
Sun May 25, 2025, 08:29 AM
May 2025

"Enrolled at Harvard University" "Taken classes from Harvard." etc

Prairie_Seagull

(4,581 posts)
56. If one is a grandparent or parent of a highschooler. Or really smart middle schooler
Sun May 25, 2025, 09:06 AM
May 2025

please get them involved at least with the civics stuff. We all know how lacking this is in our current system. For me, I had a great civics teacher in high school. Probably responsible for much that I am.

IMO

twodogsbarking

(17,357 posts)
59. Great link. When I see what they offer I understand why Trump is going after them.
Sun May 25, 2025, 12:31 PM
May 2025

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twodogsbarking

(17,357 posts)
60. Now Trump will have their internet access cut in the interests of national security.
Sun May 25, 2025, 12:35 PM
May 2025

If he follows his game plan.

tornado34jh

(1,516 posts)
63. I admit I wasn't the best student at civics back then (2004-2009, around that time), but then again, I learn differently
Sun May 25, 2025, 04:44 PM
May 2025

Although they are still good as a basic reference, most of what I know wasn't from textbooks because they change every year and it doesn't always reflect what is actually going on, although I was in a good school system nonetheless (Fairfax County in Virginia). Most of my learning I did on my own, research, going to museums, visiting other countries to see how they compare, that sort of thing. I was good at history, especially world history. But again, you can learn it all you want, but if you don't put it into practice, as evident from what we have now, then it is meaningless. Of course, world history is a big thing to understand. One the big reasons we are in this mess is because we haven't learned anything when a government like this occurs in other countries. That's why they are after higher education, because it is one of the only ways we can learn from it and develop critical thinking. All dictatorships want a dumb population so that they can easily control them. It happened in Nazi Germany, and we're quickly following its lead.

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