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LetMyPeopleVote

(163,807 posts)
Fri May 9, 2025, 05:18 PM May 9

Maddow Blog-White House's Stephen Miller: 'We are actively looking at' suspending habeas corpus

Miller claimed the U.S. can suspend the right to challenge the legality of a person’s detention “in time of invasion.”




https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/white-houses-stephen-miller-are-actively-looking-suspending-habeas-cor-rcna205945

In recent months, the radicalism of the Trump administration’s anti-immigration agenda has come into focus, leaving many to wonder just how much further the Republican White House is prepared to go. It was against this backdrop that CNBC reported:

White House deputy chief of staff for policy Stephen Miller said Friday that the Trump administration is ‘actively looking at’ suspending habeas corpus, the right to challenge the legality of a person’s detention by the government. Miller’s comment came in response to a White House reporter who asked about President Donald Trump entertaining the idea of suspending the writ of habeas corpus to deal with the problem of illegal immigration into the United States.


“The Constitution is clear — and that, of course, is the supreme law of the land — that the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus can be suspended in time of invasion,” the presidential adviser said. “So, that’s an option we’re actively looking at.”

https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:aunpu65mdrhwfie7ynymlzeh/post/3lor5uhp4vk2j




.....When I spoke about this to my colleague Lisa Rubin, an MSNBC legal correspondent and a former litigator, she described Miller’s idea as “truly crazy,” adding, “Miller isn’t proposing suspending a statutory right; rather, what he’s talking about is triggering a specific constitutional provision, namely the Suspension Clause of Article I of the Constitution. That clause provides ‘The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.’”

Steve Vladeck, a Georgetown University law professor, similarly explained that the Constitution’s Suspension Clause “doesn’t allow the President to unilaterally suspend habeas, especially when Congress is in session; applies only to cases of invasion or rebellion (this is quite clearly neither); and even then applies only ‘when the public safety may require it.’ (It doesn’t.)”

This is precisely why it was relevant throughout the 2024 campaign that Donald Trump and his allies would reference the word “invasion” as part of their anti-immigration pitch.

Time will tell whether the president is seriously prepared to pursue such an extreme approach, but that this conversation is even underway is a startling reminder of just how far the United States has gone down a radical path.


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Docreed2003

(18,218 posts)
1. The fact that our media has allowed for this narrative of "invasion"
Fri May 9, 2025, 05:30 PM
May 9

To become so wildly accepted and pervasive with little to no pushback has given way for Miller to make this outrageous proclamation without fear of repercussions. Miller is frothing at the mouth to have the ability to put any and all who dare stand up to this administration behind bars and use the fear of incarceration as a bludgeon against opposition.

maxsolomon

(36,573 posts)
4. its not "our" media's fault that lying liars lie.
Fri May 9, 2025, 05:59 PM
May 9

Miller & MFer seized on that "invasion" narrative before MFer was even inaugurated, and they won't stop that fiction until CONGRESS and the COURTS push back on it (which they've started to do).

that archaic law is NOT applicable to today's migrant crisis.

Docreed2003

(18,218 posts)
5. The "invasion narrative" should never have been allowed to be given air time
Fri May 9, 2025, 06:17 PM
May 9

It's not the medias fault they lie but it is the responsibility of the media to push back on the lies.

maxsolomon

(36,573 posts)
6. Isn't the article linked in the OP "pushing back"?
Fri May 9, 2025, 06:40 PM
May 9

they quote Lisa Rubin saying it's "truly crazy".

markpkessinger

(8,737 posts)
2. A federal judge has already ruled that the use of the word "invasion" as applied to Venezuelan immigrants . . .
Fri May 9, 2025, 05:33 PM
May 9

. . . for the purpose of justifying deportation with no due process is a no go.

FirstLight

(15,134 posts)
3. The word rebellion is in there too
Fri May 9, 2025, 05:40 PM
May 9

And they're just chomping at the bit for us to mobilize and organize enough that they will call it sedition and rebellion and come after us all...
I don't like this timeline..

LetMyPeopleVote

(163,807 posts)
7. Prof. Vladeck has some good analysis on the reason for this stunt/threat
Fri May 9, 2025, 07:54 PM
May 9

Miller and trump are trying to intimidate the courts into ruling their way to avoid having habeas corpus suspended. trump and Miller have been taking actions that seem designed to piss off the cours.



https://www.stevevladeck.com/p/148-suspending-habeas-corpus

Fifth, and finally, Miller gives away the game when he says “a lot of it depends on whether the courts do the right thing or not.” It’s not just the mafia-esque threat implicit in this statement (“I’ll make him an offer he can’t refuse”); it’s that he’s telling on himself: He’s suggesting that the administration would (unlawfully) suspend habeas corpus if (but apparently only if) it disagrees with how courts rule in these cases. In other words, it’s not the judicial review itself that’s imperiling national security; it’s the possibility that the government might lose. That’s not, and has never been, a viable argument for suspending habeas corpus. Were it otherwise, there’d be no point to having the writ in the first place—let alone to enshrining it in the Constitution.

If the goal is just to try to bully and intimidate federal judges into acquiescing in more unlawful activity by the Trump administration, that’s shameful enough. But suggesting that the President can unilaterally cut courts out of the loop solely because they’re disagreeing with him is suggesting that judicial review—indeed, that the Constitution itself—is just a convenience. Something tells me that even federal judges and justices who might otherwise be sympathetic to the government’s arguments on the merits in some of these cases will be troubled by the implication that their authority depends entirely upon the President’s beneficence.

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It’s certainly possible that this doesn’t go anywhere. Indeed, I hope that turns out to be true. But Miller’s comments strike me as a rather serious ratcheting up of the anti-court rhetoric coming out of this administration—and an ill-conceived one at that.
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