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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI will say this everyday. FatAss isn't the point. It's republicans who are doing all of this period. They are to blame
Every bit of our ire should be aimed at the Republican party, not Krasnov, not Musk or anyone else. If those criminal scapegoats go the Republicans will spit out more to take their place like a broken slot machine. REPUBLICANS MUST FEEL THE HEAT for what they've done. If you want to scream about how criminal this Republican Gestapo is kidnapping people without due process, BLAME REPUBLICANS. The more we blame FatAss the more he likes it and it takes attention away from the real problem. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!!
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Irish_Dem
(72,557 posts)The PutinGOP are the ones who are done with democracy.
So they installed a mob boss to destroy democracy and damage the US.
Cheezoholic
(3,124 posts)They vote Republican every time because it's a generational thing. It's who there Grandparents and Parents voted for. They don't think about "who" they are voting for they've just been multi-generationally trained to not vote Democrat. I can talk issues with Krasnov with those Republicans, they are in the FAFO stage. But my exchanges are quite heated now because I've moved on to their party not him. And I tell them if they want to really be "Republicans" they better kick the MAGA crowd to the street. I've gotten flak from friends who say we can't get their votes if we speak to them that way. Fuck that. I don't want their votes. I want them to do what's right for the country. To be a true Patriot. FIX THEIR PARTY. Unfortunately its a necessary evil. But it has become tyrannical.
Irish_Dem
(72,557 posts)My goal is not to pretend to be nice to jackass R's.
My goal is to get them to decide if they want to do the right thing or not.
Do they want to save their country, democracy, freedom?
Or do they want to live in an impoverished dictatorship, like Russia and China.
We may have to get in their faces. They are not paying attention to reality.
kerry-is-my-prez
(10,077 posts)Raised as a Republican, then voted for Trump, didn’t even think about it. Although one I know has turned MAGA. On the bright side, I grew up in a very Republican area and everyone I keep in touch with is liberal. They went to college and turned.
It's the money boys, in the back room. He's just a 'useful idiot' for the money cartel.
Cherokee100
(405 posts)It's the money boys, in the back room. He's just a 'useful idiot' for the money cartel.
Walleye
(41,468 posts)What do they think is causing all this, it’s the Republican Party, get out of it
calimary
(87,121 posts)Might be nice to see a bunch of ‘em showing some backbone and announcing in a big splashy news conference that they feel forced to abandon the Republican Party, and why.
Probably won’t ever happen, though. Today’s big fashion trend: tops with yellow backs.
Walleye
(41,468 posts)Choice based on rational and practical considerations. We don’t think of it as a religion. A lot of it has still has to do with the defeat of the south in the Civil War. Even though the Democrats were the bad guys in that situation.
calimary
(87,121 posts)
dwp6577
(116 posts)I've been saying this also. Repub voters own this disaster!
stopdiggin
(14,044 posts)That is completely attributable to Donald J. (and I, personally, would go further to say that a lot of the direction and agenda are really driven by a singular figure in the White House as well) In short - a Republican administration with a different person at the helm - would in all likelihood look (and feel) significantly different from what we experience today.
It is a mistake to minimize what Trump has done to the party.
Cheezoholic
(3,124 posts)Respectfully
stopdiggin
(14,044 posts)But there is/was a substantive difference between a Reagan Republican, and the kind of dreck we have in our cabinet today. That's just the facts. Illustration number 1 - show me an R of 20 years ago that would even think about being all cozy and palsy-walsy with Putin?
I give you - Trump.
Cirsium
(2,754 posts)Different styles, that's all. Same agenda. Same evil.
Trump has not made the Republicans into something new and different. He gave them permission to be who they really are without any disguise.
Bettie
(18,596 posts)I find that I have an endless well of rage these days. There is plenty to go around!
Cheezoholic
(3,124 posts)everyone, including the country will be better served.
When I hear "well, there are moderate Republicans..." I see red.
There aren't. Not anymore. They all vote in lockstep.
They do, however, have message discipline which helps them with stupid people. They all say the same thing over and over and over. It's vile and evil, but they say it so much people believe it.
JustAnotherGen
(35,727 posts)and their party are guilty, guilty, guilty. The ENTIRE cabal must be brought to heel and their voters made into social pariahs when the regime falls.
No one is getting out unpunished. And I don't want to hear a word from the global community when we do what we do to them. We let them off scot free in 1865 and they've been a massive disaster for America ever since.
They need to sit down, shut up, and stay out of our way.
live love laugh
(15,662 posts)patphil
(8,087 posts)Sure, many of them are just fools, but many calculate their future as being a part of his team. Without their compliance, they believe they have nothing. So, they feel they are better off supporting him, regardless of the cost to the nation.
The Republicans in Congress are every bit as evil, greedy, and callous as Trump. They'll watch the nation fall to ruin as long as they believe they can rise above the ashes of what used to be a Great Nation.
FakeNoose
(37,950 posts)They're letting him take the grief for being a fascist, racist asshole but really, those Repukes are just as awful.
The other half DO NOT agree with Chump but they're too chickenshit to oppose him. (It means they're just as bad.)
So Chump gets his way on all of this nastiness.
They don't build monuments and write ballads for cowardly enablers. Nor should they
BComplex
(9,494 posts)It is republicans, REPUBLICANS, pure and simple. The whole fucking lot of them! In elected offices, in the public, in the media. They have been against dark skin, free thinking, intelligent people, and FREEDOM ITSELF, for as long as I can remember....and I am pretty old, so I fucking remember way back! They represent repression, greed, hate and control.
We marched in the 60's for civil rights, voting rights, the environment, women's rights, abortion rights (which affects the lives of both sexes!!!) and many many people were killed (think Ohio and southern lynchings), and had their heads busted (think '68 democratic convention and equal rights), and we marched against wars-for-money (think Vietnam).
Democrats, and liberals in particular, have been on the right side of every issue that supports LIFE, while republicans have sought to destroy not just life itself, but especially quality of life.
ampm
(365 posts)I agree 100%. They have been planning this since before Reagan. It's only coming out because Drumpt gave it fast out-of-the-gate exposure. The Pandora box is now open, and they are scrambling with various distractions.
chowder66
(10,985 posts)Both need their feet held to the fire. When the name "Trump" is mentioned in any news story or on a program it should ALWAYS lead with some version of "and Elected Republicans in Washington" or "the Republican officials", etc.
I believe he has an important hand in this and isn't just a face. He's had decades of practice and has taught them a thing or two and they are running with it. Never apologize (though a lot of them know this already but he is the main catalyst), he lives and breathes loopholes like no one else. He lies his way through every problem and doesn't care what others think unless it's someone he sees as useful.
I'm sure there are multitudes of other examples. Some we may know about, others we may not.
Auggie
(32,428 posts)Response to Cheezoholic (Original post)
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Initech
(105,693 posts)And those authoritarians - Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Sean Hannity, Rupert Murdoch, Leonard Leo, Kevin Roberts, Alex Jones, Steven Miller, Steve Bannon, Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Greene, and too many other shitbags to name. The only reason they propped up and forced the asshole on us is because of his popularity. The GOP would have lost the 2024 election with anybody else. 
Martin68
(26,190 posts)Dump has a hold on sizable base of MAGAts, and that gives Fat Ass a hold on Republicans who are using him to stay in office.
mac56
(17,775 posts)and their team needs to win no matter how.
hildegaard28
(596 posts)And even though the Trump regime and Musk are the ones making these decisions and carrying out the plans, Republicans can stop them. There are plenty of actions they can take to put a stop to the nonsense, but they won't because they now have the power they have always wanted. Plus, a functioning government makes it harder to get away with their crimes.
chowmama
(856 posts)I've said all along - he's a common type. He only attracts attention and followers because they think the money he first inherited, then began stealing with broken contracts and fake charities, and now extorts in exchange for 'access to power', proves he's some kind of authority. Also, he validates their hate and gives them permission to act on it.
Every bar has one (with a lot less money). No bar wants to see him come in because nobody will sit within 5 stools of him. He's the crazy guy, world's greatest authority, racist, misogynistic (hates all of humanity, actually, including his followers), and bitter because nobody will recognize how entitled he is. No one can ever admire him enough. He smells bad. He starts fights. And he never shuts up.
He'd actually be at that bar, if it weren't for the people who prop him up for their own purposes. They give him the money. They keep the spotlight on him, let him spew his hate, sane-wash the idiocies and rambling, make sure he gets away with talking out of his filthy ass like a called-upon student who didn't bother to read the assignment. The money and the power are all theirs; they're just letting him use it until he no longer serves their purpose. When he doesn't, he's going to be the most surprised man on the face of this earth. He has no idea how fast it can all disappear.
And the real powerbrokers will walk away and lie in wait for the next one.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)If the U.S. Senate had been composed of our "Parent's Old Guard" Republican Party members, they would have impeached him in January 2017, before he even got to move in to the White House..........
I have often wondered if these Republican Politicians have kids or grandkids. Or if it is just that they just care about themselves.
I think that they have more than proven it is the latter.......
Starting with the corrupt "installation" of WBush in 2000 by the Cheney/Rumsfeld CABAL, I started shedding all Republican family members and all Republican friends and associates....I had only ONE remaining in 2016, and I promptly threw that person out of my life also...........
Traildogbob
(11,530 posts)That is why he hates PBS so bad. He hates the thought of puppets. Especially the puppeteers (Miller, Pootie, Musk, Fox et all) that want him to shut the fuck up and let them ventriloquist the hell out of him while their hands move his chin anus.
Montauk6
(9,169 posts)orchidlady
(23 posts)been saying this very thing since before 9/11, in fact since 12/12/00 when SCOTUS (read: scalia) handed W the presidency.
but it goes back much further than those linked events. tho it's the party of abe, every prez since him (save maybe ike) has represented the interests of the business class over the workers. and they've known since abe that giving any power to workers (esp slaves/POCs), would diminish their own power in running ruling (ruIning?) the country.
saint ronny (a B grade actor chosen mainly for his TV public appeal than his political acumen; the first of such R puppets) grabbed that agenda and ran with it, during which time newt turned the generally collegial congress into a boxing ring, and leonard leo packed the courts with conservatives, SCOTUS with conservative catholics. that trajectory tracks with the decline in the middle class, and inversely with the wealth gap.
driving such a mindless power grab is the mindset that goes with it: pompous entitlement, lack of empathy, militancy, duplicity, greed, and an increasing capacity for cruelty. all these set the stage for where we are now, awash in racism, misogyny, and authoritarianism.
so yes indeed, this IS a time of reckoning. and with that capacity for fascism -- matched it must be said by this country's principle's capacity for generosity, creativity, compassion, and invention -- the demand is incredibly high for each and all of us to recognize and own our collective responsibility in the extensive suffering our deep faults have levied on the country and the planet.
Alice Kramden
(2,715 posts)"This IS a time of reckoning "
orangecrush
(25,758 posts)oldmanlynn
(686 posts)MAGA supporters are the root cause and of course they have been programmed by the GOP media
hadEnuf
(3,317 posts)The MAGA Republicans are enabling it, and the rest, whether through cowardice, thinking they can cash in or that they really want a fascist dictatorship, could stop it, but they won't.
On the other hand, we could have stopped this too, through timely action in the courts or by taking on the MAGATS while we still had the power and the military.
I think that many on our side have never truly understood what we have been dealing with all this time.
questionseverything
(11,096 posts)He should of been imprisoned w/o bail, tried and convicted
wiggs
(8,305 posts)KT2000
(21,619 posts)not just trump at the next demonstration.
red dog 1
(31,481 posts)Eisenhower was the last GOP president who wasn't inherently evil.
mercuryblues
(15,752 posts)of decades upon decades of republican policies and goals. This was built by Limbaugh, Gingrich, Cheney etc. You have to be carefully taught.
When he is done, dead and gone you will not be able to find 1 person who will say they voted for him. They'll moved on to the next shiny thing.
Whatthe_Firetruck
(610 posts)republianmushroom
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augyboston
(360 posts)
He’s just the figurehead. It’s the people we don’t always see who are doing the most damage.