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babylonsister

(172,100 posts)
Thu May 8, 2025, 09:22 AM May 8

Bill Gates Accuses Elon Musk of 'Killing' Children

https://politicalwire.com/2025/05/08/bill-gates-accuses-elon-musk-of-killing-children/

Bill Gates Accuses Elon Musk of ‘Killing’ Children
May 8, 2025 at 8:29 am EDT By Taegan Goddard


Billionaire philanthropist Bill Gates ratcheted up his feud with Elon Musk, accusing the world’s richest man of “killing the world’s poorest children” through what he said were misguided cuts to U.S. development assistance, the Financial Times reports.

Said Gates: “The picture of the world’s richest man killing the world’s poorest children is not a pretty one.”
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Bill Gates Accuses Elon Musk of 'Killing' Children (Original Post) babylonsister May 8 OP
Speaking truth to money. milestogo May 8 #1
Good for Bill Gates. yardwork May 8 #2
Truth Johonny May 8 #3
Kick SheltieLover May 8 #4
This will leave a mark newdeal2 May 8 #5
K&R spanone May 8 #6
This is the truth. Swede May 8 #7
Kudos to Bill Gates for speaking up, and stepping up jmbar2 May 8 #8
How long before Elon trots out some johnnyfins May 8 #9
They haven't finished the microchip vaccination conspiracy yet have they? mdbl May 8 #54
Who cares? MorbidButterflyTat May 8 #57
But, Musk is proud of having no empathy -- says it's destroying civilization William Seger May 8 #10
Musk wants everybody to be as cold as he is Attilatheblond May 8 #34
Bill, you are just letting them die, yourself. You plan to give away your $200B by 2045 but your ex Wonder Why May 8 #11
Where do you think his ex got her money? milestogo May 8 #13
And, if they hadn't divorced, all that money she gave away, he'd still have control of so he'd been Wonder Why May 8 #19
Absolutely wrong--quite possibly libelously so. hlthe2b May 8 #20
Libelous? Gimme a break. Let's just agree to disagree. Wonder Why May 8 #45
False accusations in print are just that. hlthe2b May 8 #46
LOL DENVERPOPS May 8 #55
DENVERPOPS.. we owe it to EarlG not to put DU in the crosshairs as has happened in the past... hlthe2b May 8 #56
The "turn of the 19th to 20th Century" baron was born in 1955 milestogo May 8 #32
I didn't say he was born at the turn of the century. I was saying that, like them, he waited to give Wonder Why May 8 #47
Gates has done so much for the poorest people pinkstarburst May 8 #43
No kidding MorbidButterflyTat May 8 #58
OMG.. How wrong YOU are. His Gates Foundation has been instrumental in making strides throughout hlthe2b May 8 #18
Are you thinking of Bezos ex wife ? Because Gates is more recently divorced JI7 May 8 #21
Or, that money can more than double multigraincracker May 8 #42
Based on that argument, he can have his foundation hold on to it for 100 years before Wonder Why May 8 #48
I'm retired and drawing down my savings. multigraincracker May 8 #49
That's two of us that don't have $200B. Wonder Why May 8 #59
If Bill Gates had wanted to he could very well be richer than Musk but instead has worked to give .. Botany May 8 #12
Good for Gates. Whatever harm Gates may have done in his lifetime, he has tried t9o redeem himself by spending Martin68 May 8 #14
I hadn't read your post when I made my own. We are of one mind on this.. hlthe2b May 8 #16
Bill Gates has been systematically making up for any wrongs he committed and I'm pleased to say... hlthe2b May 8 #15
Agree, but I think he's more attacking symptoms than the disease. usonian May 8 #31
He's right. Musk is killing children - adults too. Solly Mack May 8 #17
It's not just trump and musk; it is ALL republicans who have voted with them, or FOR them. It's republicans. BComplex May 8 #30
Yes, true. All of them. Solly Mack May 8 #52
And impoverished, hungry kids Musk doesn't kill, will grow to hate the US, Attilatheblond May 8 #39
That does happen. Solly Mack May 8 #51
The accusation is just. However, I wish the would not frame it is a "feud." CBHagman May 8 #22
Sounds like a new "clash of the titans". calimary May 8 #23
Good for you, Bill Lulu KC May 8 #24
Maybe Elon can stop picking on ex-wives of other billionaires, man up, deal with his well heeled male peers instead Attilatheblond May 8 #25
They need Linda ladeewolf May 8 #26
It's not clear where, who you're referring to here... littlemissmartypants May 8 #29
Sorry, I was just reading this morning Linda ladeewolf May 8 #36
If only Bill Gates had gone into politics! Doodley May 8 #27
Bill Gates is intelligent and he talks to intelligent people. milestogo May 8 #37
I'm not a fan of Bill Gates, but he is absolutely correct here. patphil May 8 #28
babylonsister........... Upthevibe May 8 #33
Trump and his MAGA cult are defined by their cruelty and bigotry. Beacool May 8 #35
The enemy of my enemy is not suddenly a saint but I would keep Gates over the Rat any day. Dave Bowman May 8 #38
It's about time a well known billionaire is pointing out the obvious... Fil1957 May 8 #40
LONG overdue, Bill! BlueMTexpat May 8 #41
He promoted RFK Jr who spouts dangerous conspiracy theories about vaccines. Initech May 8 #44
TY Kick fo Bill Gats Speaking out Against Cha May 8 #50
What is the actual musk death count? Do we have any idea who has actually died as a direct result of the cuts? Blues Heron May 8 #53
He's right Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 8 #60
He isn't wrong Roxi May 9 #61

newdeal2

(2,632 posts)
5. This will leave a mark
Thu May 8, 2025, 09:29 AM
May 8

If he were a mature adult, he would actually consider what Gates is saying and course correct. Instead, he will Tweet some insults and look for revenge.

johnnyfins

(2,122 posts)
9. How long before Elon trots out some
Thu May 8, 2025, 09:40 AM
May 8

Rightwing conspiracy theory about Bill Gates. Maybe he is combing through old Alex Jones shows...

mdbl

(6,558 posts)
54. They haven't finished the microchip vaccination conspiracy yet have they?
Thu May 8, 2025, 06:30 PM
May 8

That was blaming Gates lol

Attilatheblond

(6,013 posts)
34. Musk wants everybody to be as cold as he is
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:26 AM
May 8

Which makes me wonder if, deep down, he knows there is something wrong with him. But he's not man enough, not human enough, to face his deficits and work on them. He can't evolve, so he wants everyone else to be like him, or die.

Wonder Why

(5,777 posts)
11. Bill, you are just letting them die, yourself. You plan to give away your $200B by 2045 but your ex
Thu May 8, 2025, 09:46 AM
May 8

has been doing it for years. Can't you live on just a measly $1B and give it away now instead of dolling it out over time?

In 10 years, those kids will no longer be kids, already beyond hope; in 20 will be grown up and too poor to help their own kids.

Wonder Why

(5,777 posts)
19. And, if they hadn't divorced, all that money she gave away, he'd still have control of so he'd been
Thu May 8, 2025, 10:18 AM
May 8

able to give even more away by 2045. Is that what you're saying?

Sorry, but I maintain Gates has done too little with all he has. No, he is not a Muskrat by any stretch of the imagination but he's no nice guy IMHO. Another "turn of the 19th to 20th Century" baron who gives away his vast fortune far later than he should have.

hlthe2b

(109,933 posts)
20. Absolutely wrong--quite possibly libelously so.
Thu May 8, 2025, 10:22 AM
May 8

I dont' defend Bill Gate's personal life, but I won't be silent about his global health initiatives--one which I personally have worked on.

Wonder Why, you are WRONG.

DENVERPOPS

(12,370 posts)
55. LOL
Thu May 8, 2025, 07:18 PM
May 8

If that were true, Trump, for example, would have spent the past two decades in prison.......along with everyone on Fox New's website.

hlthe2b

(109,933 posts)
56. DENVERPOPS.. we owe it to EarlG not to put DU in the crosshairs as has happened in the past...
Thu May 8, 2025, 07:21 PM
May 8

Perhaps before your time.

If you have no lawyers in your life, maybe you don't take it seriously, but while you can say "you think... " about just about anything and anyone, making false claims, assertions, accusations, can and DOES get you litigation. But, to point to TSF and the RW doing that and not worrying about it, really? Anyone they don't like will be smeared with blatant lies and accusations in a never-ending tirade. Is that what we do? Really? And about Bill Gates' philanthropy? Damn... As I said, he's got some personal issues that are deserving of a call-out, but I'm not about to defend someone misrepresenting (intentionally, apparently-- despite multiple corrections) his support of global health and climate change initiatives dating decades--when few else were.

So, let's be respectful of the owners and not justify our fellow DUers doing so--especially when it is so damned provably WRONG, okay?

milestogo

(20,669 posts)
32. The "turn of the 19th to 20th Century" baron was born in 1955
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:24 AM
May 8

and made his fortune in the latter half of the twentieth century.
His credentials as a philanthropist, especially for climate change and health in third world countries, are exceptional.

Wonder Why

(5,777 posts)
47. I didn't say he was born at the turn of the century. I was saying that, like them, he waited to give
Thu May 8, 2025, 02:44 PM
May 8

away his big fortune far too late in life. My opinion. And you disagree. That's nice. Shows we can still differ in opinion and not fight over it.

pinkstarburst

(1,737 posts)
43. Gates has done so much for the poorest people
Thu May 8, 2025, 12:01 PM
May 8

of the world, and has been for years. Geez, the dude has been giving away his fortune for years, has just pledged to give away ALL his fortune, and this still isn't enough for you?

hlthe2b

(109,933 posts)
18. OMG.. How wrong YOU are. His Gates Foundation has been instrumental in making strides throughout
Thu May 8, 2025, 10:05 AM
May 8

the world for decades--before they were ever divorced. You need to research the work being done--including funding clinical trials on the (mosquito-borne) dengue vaccine (the four serotypes which can cause a fatal hemorrhagic syndrome especially in children) and that is but one example.

How wrong you are. I do love Melinda and she deserves lauding, but, damn...

JI7

(91,979 posts)
21. Are you thinking of Bezos ex wife ? Because Gates is more recently divorced
Thu May 8, 2025, 10:28 AM
May 8

and he has been giving for years along with his now ex wife.

Wonder Why

(5,777 posts)
48. Based on that argument, he can have his foundation hold on to it for 100 years before
Thu May 8, 2025, 02:47 PM
May 8

passing out the money and think how many more they can save!

The poor and downtrodden need money now. If some can be helped enough NOW, their kids will not be the ones who need saving in 20 years.

We disagree and I'm fine with that. Have a nice day.

multigraincracker

(35,724 posts)
49. I'm retired and drawing down my savings.
Thu May 8, 2025, 04:17 PM
May 8

Taking out 15% a year. Figure I have 8 to 10 years left to live.

Wonder Why

(5,777 posts)
59. That's two of us that don't have $200B.
Thu May 8, 2025, 09:19 PM
May 8

But I have to think of my wife, too. I tried to ignore her but even after 53 years, she has a hell of a wallop!

Botany

(74,261 posts)
12. If Bill Gates had wanted to he could very well be richer than Musk but instead has worked to give ..
Thu May 8, 2025, 09:49 AM
May 8

…. away his money and future income on helping people.

Musk’s killing of USAID is in a large part because it helps black people in Africa and he grew up
in apartheid S. Africa and sees them as the enemy.

Martin68

(25,845 posts)
14. Good for Gates. Whatever harm Gates may have done in his lifetime, he has tried t9o redeem himself by spending
Thu May 8, 2025, 09:56 AM
May 8

billions on worthwhile charitable projects. Not the fake charities that Trump and his ilk set up for slush fund money.,

hlthe2b

(109,933 posts)
15. Bill Gates has been systematically making up for any wrongs he committed and I'm pleased to say...
Thu May 8, 2025, 10:01 AM
May 8

he seems to be succeeding mightily (obviously he won't think I am the one to judge that, but still... )

I am really glad to see him call out Musk. In Gate's accusation, he is absolutely right.

usonian

(17,922 posts)
31. Agree, but I think he's more attacking symptoms than the disease.
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:24 AM
May 8

The disease is the insane concentration of wealth he participated in so viciously, and the heartless greed of the oligarchs.

Better late than never? Musk bought himself a presidency.

Gates didn't counter. Imagine if he "fixed" those voting machines instead of Elon.



He has the platform.

Windows boot message: "We have detected a MAGA hat and are issuing a HCF (1) instruction to the CPU."

(1) Halt and Catch Fire

But it's good to see oligarchs fighting each other rather than the rest of us.

mixed feelings here

Solly Mack

(95,025 posts)
17. He's right. Musk is killing children - adults too.
Thu May 8, 2025, 10:03 AM
May 8

He's doing it with Trump's blessing. Let's not let Trump off the hook.

BComplex

(9,433 posts)
30. It's not just trump and musk; it is ALL republicans who have voted with them, or FOR them. It's republicans.
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:20 AM
May 8

They are cold, uncaring, greedy sonsofrepublicanbitches.

Attilatheblond

(6,013 posts)
39. And impoverished, hungry kids Musk doesn't kill, will grow to hate the US,
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:30 AM
May 8

The survivors of the extreme poverty will be a pool of people who produce a few terrorists, and the wealthy nations will have it coming.

CBHagman

(17,278 posts)
22. The accusation is just. However, I wish the would not frame it is a "feud."
Thu May 8, 2025, 10:40 AM
May 8

Bill Gates says what many of us say: Elon Musk, who gloated about feeding USAID into the wood chipper (his phrasing, not mine), is gleefully causing deaths of many of the world's most vulnerable people, including children.

Elon Musk also owes much of his wealth to the taxpayers! And he then bought access to power, which he is now using to harm millions or perhaps billions of people.

Lulu KC

(8,109 posts)
24. Good for you, Bill
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:08 AM
May 8

Uganda, 1m people not receiving food aid because of us. Just from today's headlines. Every day a new headline of death and destruction. Makes me want to go soak my head.

Attilatheblond

(6,013 posts)
25. Maybe Elon can stop picking on ex-wives of other billionaires, man up, deal with his well heeled male peers instead
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:13 AM
May 8

One can hardly wait for round Two.

Linda ladeewolf

(906 posts)
26. They need
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:14 AM
May 8

To bring up the air pollution around his AI data center. For over a year now the turbines have been spewing out toxic emissions. Naturally there is an older black neighborhood about 2 miles from it. They always locate these things away from white neighborhoods. The people can hardly breathe. The story is on BBC.

Linda ladeewolf

(906 posts)
36. Sorry, I was just reading this morning
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:28 AM
May 8

About the Xai center in Memphis. They’ve got huge turbines running day and night that have no emission regulation on them spewing out NOx by the ton. It is only three miles or less from an older black neighborhood. The residents there are suffering from the toxic affects.
I thought it was the bbc but it’s here.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/apr/24/elon-musk-xai-memphis

milestogo

(20,669 posts)
37. Bill Gates is intelligent and he talks to intelligent people.
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:29 AM
May 8

The thing we've lost with Trump is that he's so arrogant he surrounds himself with incompetent sycophants.

I could accept having a billionaire president if they were humble enough and smart enough to surround themselves with competent people.

patphil

(7,866 posts)
28. I'm not a fan of Bill Gates, but he is absolutely correct here.
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:17 AM
May 8

What Trump and Musk have done is mass murder, plain and simple.
They have use their combination of position and wealth to cause immense pain, suffering and death to those people who relied on USAID to survive.
If they succeed in destroying Medicaid, Social Security, and the VA, there will be another round of mass murder here in the United States.

Beacool

(30,389 posts)
35. Trump and his MAGA cult are defined by their cruelty and bigotry.
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:26 AM
May 8

It's an evil regime, lacking in what made America truly great, our basic decency and compassion. MAGA is based on resentments, and prejudice. They're the racist, misogynist, homophobic, and xenophobic segment of society. Trump is just a symptom, he became their leader because he legitimized their rage and frustrations. They are the same type of people who in 1930s Germany agreed with the extermination of the Jews. The same types who cheered when gladiators and Christians died in the Roman arenas. In every era there have been people like the MAGA folks.


Dave Bowman

(5,222 posts)
38. The enemy of my enemy is not suddenly a saint but I would keep Gates over the Rat any day.
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:29 AM
May 8

He's a nut job and a damn fascist.

Initech

(104,988 posts)
44. He promoted RFK Jr who spouts dangerous conspiracy theories about vaccines.
Thu May 8, 2025, 12:07 PM
May 8

And now they look like they're going to nominate a "wellness influencer" to be surgeon general.

Blues Heron

(7,038 posts)
53. What is the actual musk death count? Do we have any idea who has actually died as a direct result of the cuts?
Thu May 8, 2025, 05:48 PM
May 8

Roxi

(2,183 posts)
61. He isn't wrong
Fri May 9, 2025, 08:37 AM
May 9

Bill Gates isn’t perfect, but he will leave a legacy that shows more compassion than anything Elon has ever touched.

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