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EnergizedLib

(2,542 posts)
Sat May 3, 2025, 12:10 PM May 3

Why does character matter when it comes to oppressed minorities?

Character doesn’t matter for them when it comes to their cult leader, but it does matter when


- George Floyd was murdered (tried excusing it because of his past)

- Ahmaud Arbery was killed for no reason (tried defending it through his past)

- Kilmar Abrego Garcia was deported without due process (bringing up his past wrongdoings)

A person who makes bad choices is still entitled to certain legal protections and you can’t just do literally whatever you want to them just because of their mistakes in life.

We’re not defending illegals or criminals. We’re defending legal rights.

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Why does character matter when it comes to oppressed minorities? (Original Post) EnergizedLib May 3 OP
You're right of course. choie May 3 #1
What about people who happen to be here illegally? EnergizedLib May 3 #2
then they are people who are here illegally. choie May 3 #3
And if you're going to say that it is just semantics... choie May 3 #5
We don't even consider that for any other crime. unblock May 3 #6
Human beings Cirsium May 3 #8
A nation is built on principles and can quickly fall apart without them. Trust_Reality May 3 #4
We're witnessing that in real time EnergizedLib May 3 #7
It has always been like this. Behind the Aegis May 3 #9

choie

(5,530 posts)
1. You're right of course.
Sat May 3, 2025, 12:29 PM
May 3

But I would suggest that you may want to stop using the term "illegals". People aren't "illegal". They're undocumented.

choie

(5,530 posts)
3. then they are people who are here illegally.
Sat May 3, 2025, 12:32 PM
May 3

They are not "illegals". That's a repugnant way of demeaning people.

choie

(5,530 posts)
5. And if you're going to say that it is just semantics...
Sat May 3, 2025, 12:35 PM
May 3

words are important, they are used to describe and frame. As we've seen by the monster we have as president, language matters.

unblock

(55,171 posts)
6. We don't even consider that for any other crime.
Sat May 3, 2025, 12:35 PM
May 3

A murderer isn't "an illegal" the act may have been illegal, but the person is not "an illegal".

Same for a robber or anything else. Only for immigration, which involves quite a lot of red tape, do they call human beings "illegal", even if it may just be a bureaucratic error or accident.

Behind the Aegis

(55,403 posts)
9. It has always been like this.
Sat May 3, 2025, 03:22 PM
May 3

If a minority does good or is the "first", then they are called out by some to the tune of "why does it matter". Others will praise them, but it is backhanded in someways in that it is more of "See? There are good ones!". There are those, of course, who recognize the importance of a minority succeeding or being first, sadly, IMO, they seem to be fading fast.

When a minority does "bad", of course, it is a representation of ALL minorities in that group, and said members are attacked, called to repudiate the "bad one", or some other set of parlor games in order to appease the majority and their dingleberry hangers-on.

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