Why is Trump obsessed about taking children away from their parents?

[Irish_Dem]

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We saw this in his first term. The deliberate kidnapping of children from their parents.
The deliberate separation of children from their mothers.

I think this goes back to Trump's childhood.
His mother was reportedly ill and in and out of hospitals when he was a child.
(Perhaps she was mentally ill or wanted to get away from her abusive husband.)

Trump was left in the care of a sister, only a child herself.
Or left to the care of servants. Trump's father is said to have not hired a nanny for the children?
So who knows what happened to these kids?
And Trump's father was abusive.

This is the source I believe of Trump's rage and anger.
His anger at his mother for abandoning him.
Which he keeps acting out over and over.

We see this in his hatred of women.
Raping women, disrespecting them.
And then acting out the abandonment from this own childhood over and over
in his immigrant policies.

We see a mentally ill President of the United States acting out his psychopathology
over and over.

ETA: The point I am making is that Trump could have used many methods
to terrify people and make them docile and compliant like all dictators do.
But why does he keep going back to the specific trauma of kidnapping children from parents?

[Ocelot II]

1. Because it's about the meanest thing you can do to someone

without physically torturing them. It might be because of a shitty childhood, but lots of people have shitty childhoods and still manage to grow up to be decent human beings. I don't know exactly what's wrong with him, but I do know that he really likes hurting people.

[Irish_Dem]

14. It is just an explanation, not an excuse.

Yes of course, other children suffer far worse and don't end up
being serial killers, rapists, kidnappers.

Yes I have been saying for some time that Trump is a sexual sadist.
He gets off on torturing others.
Like Putin does as well.

[TommieMommy]

2. I agree. I think you nailed it

[Fiendish Thingy]

3. I don't know that Trump is particularly obsessed with that

Stephen Miller, on the other hand, is a Sado-Fascist who I’m sure delights in the misery Trump allows him to inflict upon others.

Trump has delegated almost all foreign policy, trade, and immigration decisions to Miller.

If Musk is the co-president for domestic/budget issues, Miller is the co-president for everything else.

[WestMichRad]

5. This!!!

[NoMoreRepugs]

4. Child trafficking?

[Irish_Dem]

15. Yes I have long held that Trump sold some of the children in this first term.

Sex trafficking ring.

[mopinko]

18. that's my guess.

iirc, betsy devos has an adoption agency. for as much as the magats hate brown ppl, the childless 1s r happy to take any kid they can get.

[Irish_Dem]

19. Yes I think Betsy sold some of the kids to childless parents.

They were the lucky ones.
The other kids were not so lucky.

[mopinko]

20. i wonder what her fees were.

that’s a spendy proposition w the best of agencies.

[Irish_Dem]

28. She made money or curried favor.

She didn't do it for free.

[ananda]

6. That's how you subdue a group of people.

It was a primary tactic of slaveowners too.

[Irish_Dem]

16. Yes it also serves to make for a terrified and docile, compliant population.

This is typical of abusers.

[sop]

7. In 2018 Trump said he was separating immigrants from their children to deter them from coming across the border.

'Trump says family separations deter illegal immigration'

"'If they feel there will be separation, they don't come,' he said of migrants during comments to reporters at the White House."

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/trump-says-family-separations-deter-illegal-immigration-idUSKCN1MO02M/

[Irish_Dem]

17. Yes I agree, but why did he choose this specific method?

[sop]

34. In Trump's (Stephen Miller's) mind the cruelest punishment imaginable is the most effective deterrent.

Taking away one's child is the most horrible thing these ghouls could come up with.

[vapor2]

8. Our son once said, "it all comes down to your mother"

[hlthe2b]

9. Honestly, I don't think he gives a shit either way, but is happy to accomodate Stephen Miller's sadism...

As much as I hold Trump responsible for all that happens and as much a sociopath as any in the WH, a lot of it might well not happen/might NOT have happened without Stephen Miller. He is now his Deputy COS and has both constant access and power and TSF apparently trusts him. Most of us know that he is a NAZI-level psychopath and totally drunk on his power. Just look at his super-aggressive press bits. My GAWD, he's like a rabid animal from the first word out of his mouth. Trump still tries to come across as "likeable" in at least some settings. Miller doesn't give a shit about that...

My assessment... Others may differ...

[Irish_Dem]

21. Trump is a known rapist who loves to torment his victims.

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We can see this in how he premeditated the SAs against EJC and Stormy.
He planned it carefully to set them up and trap them, back them into a corner.
He loves it.

Blaming all of this on Stephen Miller is missing the fact Trump is a ruthless vicious psychopath.
Who loves torturing others.

[hlthe2b]

32. I'm most certainly NOT blaming this all on Miller alone. I think they feed off each other.

As I said, Trump is a known sociopath as well.

[Irish_Dem]

35. Trump is a psychopath who surrounds himself with other psychopaths.

But he is the mob boss.

[hlthe2b]

36. Yes... although it is clear the 2025 crowd (Vance, Miller, Thiel & the other Billionaire Tech Bros) are

waiting in the wings. And don't think the 25th Amendment or "sudden death" is not a possibility.

Trump's dementia is progressing...

[Ping Tung]

10. He's testing the populaces willingness to look the other way while committing atrocities.

Like the "good Germans" who "knew nothing" about the deportations, concentration. or extermination camps.

It is lamentable, that to be a good patriot one must become the enemy of the rest of mankind.
Voltaire

[Irish_Dem]

22. Yes of course, but the specific method of torture is a reflection of his psychopathology.

[Basso8vb]

11. Because his own parents hated him.

Major daddy issues.

[Irish_Dem]

24. And mother issues.

[Aristus]

12. That's a very empathetic take on Trump's monstrosity.

Personally, I think he likes it because separation from their parents makes children vulnerable. Vulnerable to sexual assault, for sure; and we know he grooves on that kind of nauseating evil. He can live out his fantasies of child-rape either personally or vicariously. But I'm not enough of a believer in the "he's just a poor lonely child" narrative to give him the benefit of the doubt.

[Irish_Dem]

25. A clinical analysis is never an excuse. It is an explanation.

Trump is a vicious, ruthless, sadistic psychopath.
He will rape, kill, steal, rob anyone at anytime for personal benefit.
He will destroy the US for his personal gain and enjoyment.

He is a monster in laymen's terms.

What I am doing is similar to what the FBI psychologists do when explaining
why serial killers commit their specific crimes. And can predict future behavior.
It is how the FBI can track and arrest killers.

[RockRaven]

13. Once a trafficker, always a trafficker.

[Irish_Dem]

26. Yes I believe Trump was involved in Epstein's sex trafficking trade.

[spanone]

23. Because he's a shitty 'human' being.

[Irish_Dem]

27. Yes he is an evil monster in laymen's terms.

But I am explaining why he keeps committing the same crimes over and over in an obsessive fashion.

[Captain Zero]

29. Mommy sent him to reform school

At age 13 he got shipped out to a military school, which for the rich is reform school, because he was feckless and incorrigible, and oppositionally defiant.

He still is all those things.

[patphil]

30. This act of deliberate cruelty is aimed at those who are most vulnerable.

Does he take satisfaction in inflicting this lifelong pain on all those children?

[Martin Eden]

31. CRUELTY is a feature, not a bug

This POtuS gets off on using his power to inflict emotional trauma on people he hates.

[everyonematters]

33. He is not capable of empathy.

[allegorical oracle]

37. Maybe he always wanted somebody to take Don Jr. and Eric away so he keeps re-enacting his

fantasy. Joking, of course.

Seriously, he's flat-out cruel -- recall how he treated his brother Fred Jr. (Mary's dad). He's always been cruel because he believes that he "wins" if he's meaner than everybody else. It explains why so many of his acolytes are drawn to him -- Miller, MTG, Noem, Bondi, Kari Lake. They're mean, nasty bullies, too. When he's being nice it's nothing more than an act.